advice Feeling Insulted

[Bonsu]

I have never felt this stupid and insulted in my life.
I hand registered a domain 10 November 2017 parked it with bodis.com and decided to watch traffic. The domain is a city.tld (name removed) and after noticing the traffic from America I decided to do outbound 2 weeks ago, contacted end users I feel would benefit from this domain.
In less than an hour one of them replied asking for the price and so I made some enquiries with some np members: @Jurgen Wolf, @jide ofor asking for the best price so I don't call a silly price as I usually do and miss the sale. After consultation I replied the young man with a HIGH $××× bit left room for negotiation. He replied back in less than 10 min that he was thinking of $500 which would have been fine by me. However I didn't want to accept immediately so I told him we'do come down by $200 since it wasn't in his budget and I contacted him but he didn't reply.

Gave him 3 days break and contacted him again that I've not heard from him that if he was still interested we will consider his offer and he should decide which payment plan is fine by him: PayPal, escrow or payoneer escrow... no reply.

I had a feeling he stopped replying possibly because he realised I was contacting him from Nigeria. I even sent a mail telling him I'd transfer the domain to him first if he wants then he pays after he receives it but he'd have to open a name.com account..... no reply... So I stopped felt maybe week days wasn't his thing..

At the weekend again I contacted him asking what his concern was that if he changes his mind I'd list the domain on afternic.com & Godaddy explaining that it is a domain market place.... voila!!! He replied that godaddy is good however his budget is $100 I countered and he agreed to pay $300 asking for how to proceed with godaddy (this is the saddest part: I tried listing it on godaddy and realised the tld .pro wasn't accepted there so I contacted buyer telling him that he should use afternic as it is a godaddy marketplace even given him how to search for the relationship between afternic and godaddy and so he stopped replying...

I was working extra hours at work and decided to give it one last try and if he didn't reply I would strike him off my list and so I contacted him and he replied saying he scared he would get scammed that he'd prefer I call him if I am legit... immediately I picked up my office line and called him introduced myself that it's been me mailing him all this while and he didn't allow me to finish before he asked that what country code was this and I told him Nigeria and he said "no no no f*** off" and ended the call. I called back and he has barred my number. So I sent him a mail that if he felt scammed already he shouldn't have told me to call and I would respect his decision and so I greeted him farewell......

I was so embarrassed... why did he not say from the on set. Why did he say I should call him? So it's a crime course we are Nigeria? I receive many mails from Americans claiming they are forex agents and crypto *** I choose not to reply... I don't insult or treat them badly. I feel highly disappointed at the way an educated guy would act in such an unruly manner......

 

[atinc]

Maybe you should have been less flexible on price here. This 'buyer' was some tire kicker anyway.
If you look too eager to make sale, and follow up often, the other party will bargain even harder and possibly think they are being scammed (which is what happened here). Your location doesn't help.
Getting a US phone number is easy, but people will want to know more about you before they send any money. There will be telltale signs, for example if you send your Paypal address it might show your country and the buyer might panic seeing the discrepancy...
What I mean here, you don't want the buyer to think you are trying to hide.

If you are dealing with American buyers, setting up a listing on Godaddy when possible would be a good option.

Exactly.

I don't think you should have an American number or address. You are a domain investor from Nigeria, this is what it is. If they don't believe you let them check the who is info so they can be sure they are dealing with the rightful owner.

If the buyer really wants the name they will buy it.

 

[Domains - Wanted]

This is business - no need for harm feelings. Wish him a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!

I think this is the best advice yet

Haha

No, seriously! Thank the buyer for his interest and wish him a Merry Xmas and a Happy New Year!

 

[siravi]

Super....... thanks for sharing this information.

 

[jideofor]

Exactly.

I don't think you should have an American number or address. You are a domain investor from Nigeria, this is what it is. If they don't believe you let them check the who is info so they can be sure they are dealing with the rightful owner.

If the buyer really wants the name they will buy it.

Not really. You are likely saying this because you are on namepros. Out there it is scary when they hear NIGERIA, no thanks to the media. I know this because I have lost a lot of sale which happens AFTER they see prove of ownership.

 

[atinc]

Not really. You are likely saying this because you are on namepros. Out there it is scary when they hear NIGERIA, no thanks to the media. I know this because I have lost a lot of sale which happens AFTER they see prove of ownership.

There might be different factors for losing those sales such as price or lack of interest - not a serious buyer..

He is Nigerian and he should be a proud one, it shouldn't have stop him from doing a business... Nigeria is a Country with a high population. Billion dollar market for imports and exports.Those who are doing business with high volumes are making money without faking their nationality.

Changing phone number to a US number is like faking your identity or location.

 

[Bonsu]

I'd never use a us line or address as I feel it's dishonest...Imo.... I'd just list names and better still direct them to a market place

 

[shorterwinters]

Yep, seriously. Wish him good luck, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year and move on.

Here is something to read. Maybe not news to you but was to me.

https://qz.com/1137474/facebook-google-mest-opening-tech-hubs-in-lagos-nigeria/

 

[Bonsu]

So what's your point....

 

[DomainVP]

Do what you have to do, and don't feel bad about it. Business is business, and as much as people don't like to admit it the face of business is not very diverse.

I've only had to get on the phone once for a deal, and that was years ago. It's always the cheap $xxx deals that want to get on the phone with you because they are 'scared'.

Stop dealing with little fish and you will see better results.

If the phone is a problem, then avoid the phone. Forget about it.

Soar with your strengths that you can control.

Have a professional business eMail address, have a professional eMail signature - use a google voice phone number that points to nowhere, 9 times out of 10 they aren't going to call you and will do business via eMail. You also don't need to have a physical U.S. address. I don't feature a physical address anywhere in any of my communications/

When I reach a prospective buyer it's not about me, it's about them and the domain. If the conversation has become about you, then you need to redirect the conversation and stay on message and close your deal.

Study negotiation/marketing strategy from any one of the top 10 gurus over at YouTube, and close some deals.

You can do it, but you just need the right information and tools.

 

[GeorgeQuang]

Another choice for you : Using Uniregistry Landing Page plus Sales services. All offers will be replied by Uniregistry's sales team. But you must pay them 5-10% fees. But honestly, i will do it myself.

 

[shorterwinters]

So what's your point....

Regarding my post?
The wishing him well part is that it puts an end to this part of it between you and him. Done and over on a good note and nothing negative. In some ways it helps you start with a clean slate if he reaches back to you (which he probably won't, probably wasn't that serious).
As far as the article, I posted more for everyone else to see rather than you. Nigeria does not have the best image, at least here in the US but that article tells a completely different story and it sounds like an up and coming place to be. Sounds like it is just booming beyond belief. I had no clue. I am pretty sure most people have no idea either. Come to think about it, you are already there. You already have the knowledge in domain names to jump on the coat tails of these startups. Sounds to me like you are doing this at the right time and maybe the right place.

 

[Bonsu]

Regarding my post?
The wishing him well part is that it puts an end to this part of it between you and him. Done and over on a good note and nothing negative. In some ways it helps you start with a clean slate if he reaches back to you (which he probably won't, probably wasn't that serious).
As far as the article, I posted more for everyone else to see rather than you. Nigeria does not have the best image, at least here in the US but that article tells a completely different story and it sounds like an up and coming place to be. Sounds like it is just booming beyond belief. I had no clue. I am pretty sure most people have no idea either. Come to think about it, you are already there. You already have the knowledge in domain names to jump on the coat tails of these startups. Sounds to me like you are doing this at the right time and maybe the right place.

This is cool as I thought about it but still unsure the tld we love most here. Some use .com.ng others .ng and some .com

 

[Aspiring Billionaire]

I have never felt this stupid and insulted in my life.
I hand registered a domain 10 November 2017 parked it with bodis.com and decided to watch traffic. The domain is a city.tld (name removed) and after noticing the traffic from America I decided to do outbound 2 weeks ago, contacted end users I feel would benefit from this domain.
In less than an hour one of them replied asking for the price and so I made some enquiries with some np members: @Jurgen Wolf, @jide ofor asking for the best price so I don't call a silly price as I usually do and miss the sale. After consultation I replied the young man with a HIGH $××× bit left room for negotiation. He replied back in less than 10 min that he was thinking of $500 which would have been fine by me. However I didn't want to accept immediately so I told him we'do come down by $200 since it wasn't in his budget and I contacted him but he didn't reply.

Gave him 3 days break and contacted him again that I've not heard from him that if he was still interested we will consider his offer and he should decide which payment plan is fine by him: PayPal, escrow or payoneer escrow... no reply.

I had a feeling he stopped replying possibly because he realised I was contacting him from Nigeria. I even sent a mail telling him I'd transfer the domain to him first if he wants then he pays after he receives it but he'd have to open a name.com account..... no reply... So I stopped felt maybe week days wasn't his thing..

At the weekend again I contacted him asking what his concern was that if he changes his mind I'd list the domain on afternic.com & Godaddy explaining that it is a domain market place.... voila!!! He replied that godaddy is good however his budget is $100 I countered and he agreed to pay $300 asking for how to proceed with godaddy (this is the saddest part: I tried listing it on godaddy and realised the tld .pro wasn't accepted there so I contacted buyer telling him that he should use afternic as it is a godaddy marketplace even given him how to search for the relationship between afternic and godaddy and so he stopped replying...

I was working extra hours at work and decided to give it one last try and if he didn't reply I would strike him off my list and so I contacted him and he replied saying he scared he would get scammed that he'd prefer I call him if I am legit... immediately I picked up my office line and called him introduced myself that it's been me mailing him all this while and he didn't allow me to finish before he asked that what country code was this and I told him Nigeria and he said "no no no f*** off" and ended the call. I called back and he has barred my number. So I sent him a mail that if he felt scammed already he shouldn't have told me to call and I would respect his decision and so I greeted him farewell......

I was so embarrassed... why did he not say from the on set. Why did he say I should call him? So it's a crime course we are Nigeria? I receive many mails from Americans claiming they are forex agents and crypto *** I choose not to reply... I don't insult or treat them badly. I feel highly disappointed at the way an educated guy would act in such an unruly manner......

You can't take it personal, his actioons has nothing to do with you specifically.

 

[taktikz]

This is what happens when your country has a reputation for scamming. It's not personal. I would suggest being smart about it and getting a number from a country that has a better reputation.

 

[Jv1999]

I have never felt this stupid and insulted in my life.
I hand registered a domain 10 November 2017 parked it with bodis.com and decided to watch traffic. The domain is a city.tld (name removed) and after noticing the traffic from America I decided to do outbound 2 weeks ago, contacted end users I feel would benefit from this domain.
In less than an hour one of them replied asking for the price and so I made some enquiries with some np members: @Jurgen Wolf, @jide ofor asking for the best price so I don't call a silly price as I usually do and miss the sale. After consultation I replied the young man with a HIGH $××× bit left room for negotiation. He replied back in less than 10 min that he was thinking of $500 which would have been fine by me. However I didn't want to accept immediately so I told him we'do come down by $200 since it wasn't in his budget and I contacted him but he didn't reply.

Gave him 3 days break and contacted him again that I've not heard from him that if he was still interested we will consider his offer and he should decide which payment plan is fine by him: PayPal, escrow or payoneer escrow... no reply.

I had a feeling he stopped replying possibly because he realised I was contacting him from Nigeria. I even sent a mail telling him I'd transfer the domain to him first if he wants then he pays after he receives it but he'd have to open a name.com account..... no reply... So I stopped felt maybe week days wasn't his thing..

At the weekend again I contacted him asking what his concern was that if he changes his mind I'd list the domain on afternic.com & Godaddy explaining that it is a domain market place.... voila!!! He replied that godaddy is good however his budget is $100 I countered and he agreed to pay $300 asking for how to proceed with godaddy (this is the saddest part: I tried listing it on godaddy and realised the tld .pro wasn't accepted there so I contacted buyer telling him that he should use afternic as it is a godaddy marketplace even given him how to search for the relationship between afternic and godaddy and so he stopped replying...

I was working extra hours at work and decided to give it one last try and if he didn't reply I would strike him off my list and so I contacted him and he replied saying he scared he would get scammed that he'd prefer I call him if I am legit... immediately I picked up my office line and called him introduced myself that it's been me mailing him all this while and he didn't allow me to finish before he asked that what country code was this and I told him Nigeria and he said "no no no f*** off" and ended the call. I called back and he has barred my number. So I sent him a mail that if he felt scammed already he shouldn't have told me to call and I would respect his decision and so I greeted him farewell......

I was so embarrassed... why did he not say from the on set. Why did he say I should call him? So it's a crime course we are Nigeria? I receive many mails from Americans claiming they are forex agents and crypto *** I choose not to reply... I don't insult or treat them badly. I feel highly disappointed at the way an educated guy would act in such an unruly manner......

Use epik marketplace. No c omission fee and buyer will feel safe. That's why I moved all my domains to epik.

Like u set up a listing with bin, Send him the link. Boom, done.

U can still do this for him.

Also confused why he counter with 500, but u willingly went down to 200

 

[maya-zir]

because there are too much crime in nigeria.
I know a lot of nigerian in Spain, I work repairing computers so I know a lot of Nigerian.
almost 99% dont even try to speak spanish.
a lot of them have dirty business related with internet.
I remember to find a looong lists of credit cadrs number and pins in there laptops.
I saw too much time nigerian making false ID in internet cafe in public without have any fear.
99% never pay asking price I say from the beggining before to repair their laptops.
I knew nigerian buying from internet and shipping to nigeria with false credit cards.
Remember I check thier laptops, I see too much things there..
I saw nigerians coming in cyber cafe with bag full of false money offering to buy them a half price, they offered it to the owner of cyber cafe.. Too much nigerians sell stolen spartphones, stolen laptops, I know nigerian with 2 and 3 passports with different names but the same photo...
If tomorrow some nigerian will offer me buy something from him I will deny..
I dont need toruble...
The problem is your country... First fix your image, I mean Nigeria must clean its image... ok, this is not depend on you, but this is the sad truth..
99.9% will not have business with nigerian.
sorry

 

[PoliticalVII]

Fake it till you make it, limit any human interaction with sites like afternic and use a name like 'Henry'. Learn from pass failures and keep moving, the world owes you nothing.

I had to learn it the hard way during interviews, three weeks into the job management wondered why i didnt have a british accent like i did during the interview but my performance and value outweighed any further doubts they had.

 

[richface]

Bro, Threats and frequent insults are part of my features of being a domainer . I Never take it to heart the mildest insult I sometimes get is the F off word plus spammer ..I don't have time to get offended I stay focus and relentless in selling my names, cold calls, emails, follow ups, I am ruthless and extremely determined, could care less about insults every man needs to eat and if you let emotions get in the way you are better of getting a teddy bear For cuddles everyday but the Soup bowl ain't gonna fill itself up depends on how hungry you are. I am really Hungry ...think like the Hulk don't get distracted by idiots just bulldoze your way through that BS and head for that Green. all these stories on here about sold a hang reg for xx,xxx just sold a domain for xxx, xxx are like 1 in a million stories for the average domainer everyday is a hassle.

Good Luck buddy.

 

[dntaps]

because there are too much crime in nigeria.
I know a lot of nigerian in Spain, I work repairing computers so I know a lot of Nigerian.
almost 99% dont even try to speak spanish.
a lot of them have dirty business related with internet.
I remember to find a looong lists of credit cadrs number and pins in there laptops.
I saw too much time nigerian making false ID in internet cafe in public without have any fear.
99% never pay asking price I say from the beggining before to repair their laptops.
I knew nigerian buying from internet and shipping to nigeria with false credit cards.
Remember I check thier laptops, I see too much things there..
I saw nigerians coming in cyber cafe with bag full of false money offering to buy them a half price, they offered it to the owner of cyber cafe.. Too much nigerians sell stolen spartphones, stolen laptops, I know nigerian with 2 and 3 passports with different names but the same photo...
If tomorrow some nigerian will offer me buy something from him I will deny..
I dont need toruble...
The problem is your country... First fix your image, I mean Nigeria must clean its image... ok, this is not depend on you, but this is the sad truth..
99.9% will not have business with nigerian.
sorry

OP Are you feeling much better now, reading inaccurate responses like this? Next time you experience issues like this, discuss with people who understand / can relate, back home or via private messages here (I am sure you know the people to contact).

Bro, Threats and frequent insults are part of my features of being a domainer . I Never take it to heart the mildest insult I sometimes get is the F off word plus spammer ..I don't have time to get offended I stay focus and relentless in selling my names, cold calls, emails, follow ups, I am ruthless and extremely determined, could care less about insults every man needs to eat and if you let emotions get in the way you are better of getting a teddy bear For cuddles everyday but the Soup bowl ain't gonna fill itself up depends on how hungry you are. I am really Hungry ...think like the Hulk don't get distracted by idiots just bulldoze your way through that BS and head for that Green. all these stories on here about sold a hang reg for xx,xxx just sold a domain for xxx, xxx are like 1 in a million stories for the average domainer everyday is a hassle.

Good Luck buddy.

This is reality. Keep pushing. Good luck!!

 

[maya-zir]

@tldboss
So you preffer lie to him telling that was just weird buyer?
I just told exactly what all think but never say.
Personally I will not buy nothing from somebody from Nigeria, because I dont want to risk.
It is good to know the reason, so he can do something, I dont know what, but I dont like to lie.