advice Feeling Insulted

[Bonsu]

I have never felt this stupid and insulted in my life.
I hand registered a domain 10 November 2017 parked it with bodis.com and decided to watch traffic. The domain is a city.tld (name removed) and after noticing the traffic from America I decided to do outbound 2 weeks ago, contacted end users I feel would benefit from this domain.
In less than an hour one of them replied asking for the price and so I made some enquiries with some np members: @Jurgen Wolf, @jide ofor asking for the best price so I don't call a silly price as I usually do and miss the sale. After consultation I replied the young man with a HIGH $××× bit left room for negotiation. He replied back in less than 10 min that he was thinking of $500 which would have been fine by me. However I didn't want to accept immediately so I told him we'do come down by $200 since it wasn't in his budget and I contacted him but he didn't reply.

Gave him 3 days break and contacted him again that I've not heard from him that if he was still interested we will consider his offer and he should decide which payment plan is fine by him: PayPal, escrow or payoneer escrow... no reply.

I had a feeling he stopped replying possibly because he realised I was contacting him from Nigeria. I even sent a mail telling him I'd transfer the domain to him first if he wants then he pays after he receives it but he'd have to open a name.com account..... no reply... So I stopped felt maybe week days wasn't his thing..

At the weekend again I contacted him asking what his concern was that if he changes his mind I'd list the domain on afternic.com & Godaddy explaining that it is a domain market place.... voila!!! He replied that godaddy is good however his budget is $100 I countered and he agreed to pay $300 asking for how to proceed with godaddy (this is the saddest part: I tried listing it on godaddy and realised the tld .pro wasn't accepted there so I contacted buyer telling him that he should use afternic as it is a godaddy marketplace even given him how to search for the relationship between afternic and godaddy and so he stopped replying...

I was working extra hours at work and decided to give it one last try and if he didn't reply I would strike him off my list and so I contacted him and he replied saying he scared he would get scammed that he'd prefer I call him if I am legit... immediately I picked up my office line and called him introduced myself that it's been me mailing him all this while and he didn't allow me to finish before he asked that what country code was this and I told him Nigeria and he said "no no no f*** off" and ended the call. I called back and he has barred my number. So I sent him a mail that if he felt scammed already he shouldn't have told me to call and I would respect his decision and so I greeted him farewell......

I was so embarrassed... why did he not say from the on set. Why did he say I should call him? So it's a crime course we are Nigeria? I receive many mails from Americans claiming they are forex agents and crypto *** I choose not to reply... I don't insult or treat them badly. I feel highly disappointed at the way an educated guy would act in such an unruly manner......

 

[-EM-]

In these cases I use bido as an escrow. Fees are low and is secure enough. Buyer sends first the money to bido, I get the confirmation money is received and than I push the domain.

 

[gattoplano]

I'm italian - mafia and spaghetti, huh?

consider yourself lucky - doing business with low-vision people is usually not rewarding. You'll eventually get a more serious buyer and a better offer.

 

[-EM-]

I'm italian - mafia and spaghetti, huh?

consider yourself lucky - doing business with low-vision people is usually not rewarding. You'll eventually get a more serious buyer and a better offer.

Pretty much lol
I have been in Italy, and it was awesome!

 

[jideofor]

Get yourself a US address and phone number or an EU one if you want to do outbound. Don't take these things personally just adapt your game and continue to hustle. There even apps for you to use US phone numbers to call. I'm from Canada and make use of Free Tone so that I can outbound US numbers without paying long distance charges. Another thing you can do is set yourself up with uniregistry landers, then when you outbound and get offers push them to a uniregistry broker, yes your paying a commission but if you want to make sure your buyer feels safe it's a smart option.

I have been trying to get myself a US phone number after my recent experience which almost failed EXCEPT @xynames had to save it for me. I see why I lost over $4000 worth of domain sales this year and I don't want that next year, though I may likely do little domaining next year as I am aggressively pushing for a new business initiative and model that will pay me more than domains.

Google voice only works for US residents... any alternatives will be appreciated anyone have a good suggestion on how to resolve this US phone number and Address? Please help.

 

[slader23]

I have been trying to get myself a US phone number after my recent experience which almost failed EXCEPT @xynames had to save it for me. I see why I lost over $4000 worth of domain sales this year and I don't want that next year, though I may likely do little domaining next year as I am aggressively pushing for a new business initiative and model that will pay me more than domains.

Google voice only works for US residents... any alternatives will be appreciated anyone have a good suggestion on how to resolve this US phone number and Address? Please help.

FreeTone APP for the number and buy a US address from somewhere like www.usa2me.com. Not really worthwhile if you live in Canada to pay for the US address but if your in Africa I would use it in case someone looks you up.

Once you get your US Phone number working, I suggest you add it to your email signature along with your name and LinkedIn page.

Slader

 

[jideofor]

FreeTone APP for the number and buy a US address from somewhere like www.usa2me.com. Not really worthwhile if you live in Canada to pay for the US address but if your in Africa I would use it in case someone looks you up.

Once you get your US Phone number working, I suggest you add it to your email signature along with your name and LinkedIn page.

Slader

Thanks. It requires some payments. I will sort that out ASAP!

 

[Bonsu]

Its the world we live in.

The deal is 99% dead.

Much of sales is about image.

One quick story...
I like to play pool. I compete at a semi pro level. I cant play pro because i like my career. I coach newer players too. During their matches they are allowed to call time out and get advice from their coach. The biggest problem is that they call time out two shots too late.

You did the right thing reaching outto other members but i would have advised against you having a phone conversation.

You completely lost control of the deal and were giving away money too. You need to be prepared. You just werent ready.

Heres the good news...it was only $300. It could have been $3000. You are a good domainer. I have seen you work. But you need to prepare for actual sales. Youre not a victim here. Its takes only one wrong syllable to kill a deal sometimes. Just fix it . Peace

I don't mind if you mentor me.... I've seen some pros here good at outbound but only few reply my DM for mentorship which is sad but I understand the feeling of training me to become a competitor. I wish us all success in this interesting business

 

[Bonsu]

@Bonsu
And properly update nameservers for your domain...
Via WHOIS I see the incorrect mix of Bodis and name.com's NS...

I just changed it back to bodies after the call so I could revert to former aprice. I'd delete name.com NS today. Kinda busy @ work

 

[Isac]

Just move on. These things happens in business. Change your strategy of selling.

 

[NameSouq]

In Domaining the best strategy is just buy names and professionally have a landing page with inquiry fields. Inbound inquiries are always safe and success. Inbound inquirer would never mind your location and his focus should be on the domain name only. Most of the Outbound won't work like the way you had now. Buyer will feel suspicious and lot of thoughts will occurs at him. So better buy good targeted names and just increase your portfolios and be free minded.

 

[Bean]

As long as you remain honest, there is really no need for you to feel insulted, you are not Nigeria, you are you. Just move on, it can't rain all the time right?
Also I hate to say this but the fact that you missed the sale could be partly attributed to a little sloppiness on your end. Offering him to deal on GD without you first checking that the tld is accepted there is not very professional. As you rightly pointed out, that's the saddest part because I think you might gotten the sale otherwise. In any case, lesson learned, keep your chin up, better luck next time

 

[Haroon Basha]

You are an honest guy, do not bother about this deal. Just forget it and list your domain name again in some good marketplace. Do not feel sad or insulted, it is because of some Nigerians' fraudulent deals, everyone see a Nigerian with suspected eyes. Only your government should take action against those frauds and hang them in public to serve as a deterrent.

 

[1Darko]

This is business - no need for harm feelings. Wish him a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!

 

[Bonsu]

Haha

 

[atinc]

I have never felt this stupid and insulted in my life.
I hand registered a domain 10 November 2017 parked it with bodis.com and decided to watch traffic. The domain is a city.tld (name removed) and after noticing the traffic from America I decided to do outbound 2 weeks ago, contacted end users I feel would benefit from this domain.
In less than an hour one of them replied asking for the price and so I made some enquiries with some np members: @Jurgen Wolf, @jide ofor asking for the best price so I don't call a silly price as I usually do and miss the sale. After consultation I replied the young man with a HIGH $××× bit left room for negotiation. He replied back in less than 10 min that he was thinking of $500 which would have been fine by me. However I didn't want to accept immediately so I told him we'do come down by $200 since it wasn't in his budget and I contacted him but he didn't reply.

Gave him 3 days break and contacted him again that I've not heard from him that if he was still interested we will consider his offer and he should decide which payment plan is fine by him: PayPal, escrow or payoneer escrow... no reply.

I had a feeling he stopped replying possibly because he realised I was contacting him from Nigeria. I even sent a mail telling him I'd transfer the domain to him first if he wants then he pays after he receives it but he'd have to open a name.com account..... no reply... So I stopped felt maybe week days wasn't his thing..

At the weekend again I contacted him asking what his concern was that if he changes his mind I'd list the domain on afternic.com & Godaddy explaining that it is a domain market place.... voila!!! He replied that godaddy is good however his budget is $100 I countered and he agreed to pay $300 asking for how to proceed with godaddy (this is the saddest part: I tried listing it on godaddy and realised the tld .pro wasn't accepted there so I contacted buyer telling him that he should use afternic as it is a godaddy marketplace even given him how to search for the relationship between afternic and godaddy and so he stopped replying...

I was working extra hours at work and decided to give it one last try and if he didn't reply I would strike him off my list and so I contacted him and he replied saying he scared he would get scammed that he'd prefer I call him if I am legit... immediately I picked up my office line and called him introduced myself that it's been me mailing him all this while and he didn't allow me to finish before he asked that what country code was this and I told him Nigeria and he said "no no no f*** off" and ended the call. I called back and he has barred my number. So I sent him a mail that if he felt scammed already he shouldn't have told me to call and I would respect his decision and so I greeted him farewell......

I was so embarrassed... why did he not say from the on set. Why did he say I should call him? So it's a crime course we are Nigeria? I receive many mails from Americans claiming they are forex agents and crypto *** I choose not to reply... I don't insult or treat them badly. I feel highly disappointed at the way an educated guy would act in such an unruly manner......

How many times have you contacted him? I think more than you should...

Not good for outbound or any kind of negotiation.

 

[Bonsu]

How many times have you contacted him? I think more than you should...

How many times would I have to contact an end user....

 

[Furquan]

You have lowered your asking price to far, which simply created fear of scam in buyer mind. Always stick with a reasonable bin, I don't care where it get sold or not.

 

[atinc]

How many times would I have to contact an end user....

No, You contacted him multiple times even when he was not replying right?

Kind of being pushy is not good. You leave yourself a weaker hand against the buyer and the buyer might taught you are a scammer cause you have changed your pricing so fast and dramatically.

 

[passini]

Google voice only works for US residents... any alternatives will be appreciated anyone have a good suggestion on how to resolve this US phone number and Address? Please help.

Try this:

https://sonetel.com/en/

And for free US address:

https://www.viabox.com

 

[Kate]

Maybe you should have been less flexible on price here. This 'buyer' was some tire kicker anyway.
If you look too eager to make sale, and follow up often, the other party will bargain even harder and possibly think they are being scammed (which is what happened here). Your location doesn't help.
Getting a US phone number is easy, but people will want to know more about you before they send any money. There will be telltale signs, for example if you send your Paypal address it might show your country and the buyer might panic seeing the discrepancy...
What I mean here, you don't want the buyer to think you are trying to hide.

If you are dealing with American buyers, setting up a listing on Godaddy when possible would be a good option.