One Year Since the buyout!

[VURG]

In 9 days it will be November 2nd. LLLL.com Countdown Since the buyout there has been a lot of fluctuations in LLLL.com values but they have steadily been renewed or picked up on the drop and hence this type of domain has been a more secure investment than others. I think that the next year will attract more risk averse investors to the LLLL.com market and hence more liquidity to this market.

I am very happy with my experiences with the LLLL.com market and being part of the NamePros. It has been very rewarding. I have had to sell a large percentage of my domains this last year but I still have Vurg.com so I am happy. I used to see Namepros as a means to make money and now I see it as a place where I have friends. Thanks to everyone who got involved with the LLLL.com countdown experience. It was fun.

 

[Expron]

It was the most happiest day in my life... I love LLLL.COM's I believe it was around 10:02 AM CST time it happened.

 

[dbtbandit67]

when i first started off, i didn't know anything about domaining. i ended up picking up a site off tdnam that got iraqi traffic. now i'm stuck with it lol

i've really learned a lot since i started posting on NP regularly. and i'm still a baby compared to other senior members.

since i missed out on the LLLL.com buyathon, i hope to be on board for the next... big thing lol

 

[-REECE-]

It sure was fun Phil!

The LLLL.com Countdown thread will never be forgotten by anyone who was there to experience the event.

I made the mistake of not investing in LLL.coms 2003-2006 despite being involved in domaining -- I'm sure glad I didn't miss out on this one!

Happy Birthday LLLL.com Buyout!

 

[st0rmer]

I remember regging junk when i could have registered some llll.coms

Still seems strange that it's been a year, time sure flies

 

[Marc M.]

I bought 400+ of them hoping to double up and more my investment in a near future.

Happy birthday LLLL.com owners

 

[Keral_Patel]

Some people are really waiting for 2nd November and they are thinking that they will be able to catch lots of LLLL.coms for reg fees :D

 

[Expron]

Some people are really waiting for 2nd November and they are thinking that they will be able to catch lots of LLLL.coms for reg fees :D

Well, Actually the Nov 2nd drops would end up expiring around Nov 2nd + 60 Days Redemption Period & 5 Days Pending Delete. So we're looking around the first months of 2009 to see these drops become available for reg fees again. I bet the drop domain drop catchers will be all over the dropping LLLL's.

 

[snoop]

Since the buyout there has been a lot of fluctuations in LLLL.com values but they have steadily been renewed or picked up on the drop and hence this type of domain has been a more secure investment than others.

More secrure investment than what? The type of names whose values have fallen to zero?

 

[Domainace]

I am still relatively new here, but I just have to say, I appreciate your posts, snoop. Yes, you are a killjoy and annoy a lot of people, but you provide a valuable counterpoint in this thread that forces us to justify our optimism.

It's too easy to have a long thread where everyone agrees with each other - they tell each other how wise and spot-on they all are, and eventually drift into sillyhappyland, where dollars grow on tress sprinkled with sugar.

You provide the rudder that keeps this entire thread valuable.

And, yes, I am looking to pick up the low hanging fruit over the next year. But it's always good to have that devil's advocate to keep it real.

This is not to stroke your ego or anything. I just came off an unrelated forum where everybody agreed, and they were all saying the most ridiculous self-congratulatory things. A small pin would demolished their viewpoints. Nobody gets anything out of a circle-jerk like that. So, keep up the comments!

 

[fcud]

I am still relatively new here, but I just have to say, I appreciate your posts, snoop. Yes, you are a killjoy and annoy a lot of people, but you provide a valuable counterpoint in this thread that forces us to justify our optimism.

It's too easy to have a long thread where everyone agrees with each other - they tell each other how wise and spot-on they all are, and eventually drift into sillyhappyland, where dollars grow on tress sprinkled with sugar.

You provide the rudder that keeps this entire thread valuable.

And, yes, I am looking to pick up the low hanging fruit over the next year. But it's always good to have that devil's advocate to keep it real.

This is not to stroke your ego or anything. I just came off an unrelated forum where everybody agreed, and they were all saying the most ridiculous self-congratulatory things. A small pin would demolished their viewpoints. Nobody gets anything out of a circle-jerk like that. So, keep up the comments!

Very good points- Domainace!

 

[-REECE-]

I enjoy Snoop's presence here as well. Let's try to stay on topic with this thread though

 

[Semtex]

More secrure investment than what? The type of names whose values have fallen to zero?

I love LLLL's that have fallen to zero. If anyone has any LLLL's for $7 or less, PM me. I'm actually glad everything has bottomed out. Since these names can't go negative, I guess snoop should be bored for the next 6 months. I'm glad you were right snoop,...... and prices have all jumped ship. Now I am buying more than I was this time last year. :sold:

 

[snoop]

Thanks for the kind words all.

I love LLLL's that have fallen to zero. If anyone has any LLLL's for $7 or less, PM me. I'm actually glad everything has bottomed out. Since these names can't go negative, I guess snoop should be bored for the next 6 months. I'm glad you were right snoop,...... and prices have all jumped ship. Now I am buying more than I was this time last year. :sold:

Actually domains can go "negative", it occurs when people start renewing $2 domains, that is the new risk, that people will lose more than their initial investment in a name.

Right now either now prices are cheap or people are throwing good money after bad, one or the other, at the moment these names are likely buying penny stocks, risk levels are extremely high.

The sad fact is though the people now who talk about buying heavily now are people who have been buying all the way down, so I'd say to those people think very carefully before spending more money. Some thing don't come back...or take a very long time to...far longer than most people can stay liquid for.

 

[VURG]

More secrure investment than what? The type of names whose values have fallen to zero?

Compare:
LLL.mobi to LLLL.com
CCC.net to LLLL.com
CCC.info to LLLL.com
Pronounceable LLLLL.com to LLLL.com
LLL.us to LLLL.com
LLL.in to LLLL.com
NNNNN.com to LLLL.com
Recently dropped keyword names to LLLL.com

I am not talking about somebody like you snoop as I am sure that you have a lot more contacts and experience within this industry to find good quality domains and find the buyers. If the average domain buyer last year (I expect 50+% with less than 3 years experience and most hobby domainers) had a $5000 budget and bought up on names 12 months ago and needed to liquidate their collection today, I believe that it is a lot easier liquidate LLLL.com to these other types of domains.

I think that picking up the keyword names probably has the best potential of all these domain types but requires skills and contacts that most hobby domainers don't have. If you liquidate keyword domains on auction, it is very common to sell well below value because there is not more than one interested party watching the auctions. Because of this, good keyword domains often sell best in high volume through trusted people in order to get fair market values. However, it is easy to attract attention of LLLL.com buyers and they don't have the same volatility in values and sell for a more fair market value on random auctions.

The sad fact is though the people now who talk about buying heavily now are people who have been buying all the way down, so I'd say to those people think very carefully before spending more money. Some thing don't come back...or take a very long time to...far longer than most people can stay liquid for.

I am a mathematician. I like to comment on trends that I think I see happening. I am not a financial advisor and so I don't encourage people to treat me like one. I have steadily been reducing my investment in domains this year as I have been neglecting my mortgage for a few years through trying to start a business. Now I am investing more time in working and paying off my mortgage and reducing time commitments to entrepreneurial pursuits.

I live in Western Australia. We have huge mining contracts with China here and so despite all the doom and gloom around the world, there is very good evidence that the country has a nice steady cashflow for a lot of our residents (those directly affected by mining) to invest. Our banks have had high 9+% interest rates and so it is easier for them to cover their expenses than most of the western world as they can charge us higher fees and most of our mortgages have factored high interest rates into them and so bankruptcy is a lot more rare here than overseas. Our unemployment rate is low. While I can see that times are tough overseas (and also some areas of Australia), I am seeing a lot of opportunities.

 

[CHILLY]

It's too easy to have a long thread where everyone agrees with each other - they tell each other how wise and spot-on they all are, and eventually drift into sillyhappyland, where dollars grow on tress sprinkled with sugar.

:lol:There was a short period of time following the Buyout that I think this actually did happen :talk: :sold: . I'm glad I was able to witness it and to a small degree take part and watch the whole thing unfold. The curiosity continues as I wait to see what's next for LLLL's

 

[snoop]

Compare:
LLL.mobi to LLLL.com
CCC.net to LLLL.com
CCC.info to LLLL.com
Pronounceable LLLLL.com to LLLL.com
LLL.us to LLLL.com
LLL.in to LLLL.com
NNNNN.com to LLLL.com
Recently dropped keyword names to LLLL.com

So where are your comparisons? Or are you asking me to do that for you?

Base level llll.com have fallen 97% from the peak, from $60 to $2, are you saying all those categories have done worse? If they have done worse does it even matter?

 

[VURG]

I never accepted LLLL.com to be worth $60. Neither did you.

I'm talking about 12 months ago, not 9 months ago.

If you can let me know where I can get LLLL.com for $2, I am very interested. I have money to spend at that price and I have contacts who will also be interested.

 

[bmugford]

Here we go against with the Voodoo Economics.

First of all $60 was never the "minumum". I was buying names for $30 or less during the peak. You either have to compare average to average, or low end vs low end.

Brad

So where are your comparisons? Or are you asking me to do that for you?

Base level llll.com have fallen 97% from the peak, from $60 to $2, are you saying all those categories have done worse? If they have done worse does it even matter?

 

[-REECE-]

I think Snoop's comparison of the very low end LLLL.coms to penny stocks is a fair one. Let's not forget that some of the largest corporations did start out once upon a time as a penny stock.

The ride may be long, no doubt some will sink and some will swim. Shark infested waters? Perhaps.

Apple almost went bankrupt in the mid-90s -- look at them today. Past performance isn't necessarily indicative of future results.

 

[snoop]

I never accepted LLLL.com to be worth $60. Neither did you.

Speak for yourself, even on Reece's price guide (which was the most accepted) the minimum was stated as $55 in February.

Even so it doesn't matter much what people believe the top was, because the people who bought those names at the peak have basically lost all of their money after ebay/paypal/banks fees.

If you can let me know where I can get LLLL.com for $2, I am very interested. I have money to spend at that price and I have contacts who will also be interested.

Go to ebay and bid on them.

 

[bmugford]

Snoop, I have offered to buy any LLLL.com that needs to be renewed immediately for $2, and any LLLL.com with a year reg for $10. How many takers have I had? 0

So that says a lot for $2 being the true "minimum". If you just want to go by eBay the top end was $35-$45 max even during the "Peak".

Brad

 

[Nem0]

I am still relatively new here, but I just have to say, I appreciate your posts, snoop. Yes, you are a killjoy and annoy a lot of people

I enjoy Snoop's presence here as well. Let's try to stay on topic with this thread though

Here we go against with the Voodoo Economics.

First of all $60 was never the "minumum". I was buying names for $30 or less during the peak. You either have to compare average to average, or low end vs low end.

Brad

Yep, and That's why i don't respect him or most of his posts, because he isn't fair or honest in his assesments. Such as with his bogus $60 to $2 schpeel. If he was fair he would be such a cool guy that we could debate with.

I'm all for the yin to our yang but only if the facts are straight, but most of his sh*t is just downright malicious and not true.

Speak for yourself, even on Reece's price guide (which was the most accepted) the minimum was stated as $55 in February.

There were tons of names in that same period that sold for much less that that, on any given day. Besides, basing someone's "guide" as gospel truth is just plain scary.

 

[maxeaus]

People should remember that the US$ is now 30/35% stronger than what it was at it's peak low a few months back.

This percentage needs to be deducted before any other price fall/s. Doing this will give you a much better/closer idea of any fall in prices.

To just say prices have fallen 95% from the peak is voodoo economics, pure and simple, not that i was around then anyway.

Congrats on the anniversary for those who were there.

 

[-REECE-]

I need to stand up for Snoop here regarding prices... Clearly the min was $50+ at peak.

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