discuss .AL Extension

[Casey L]

It seems today there has been more auctions for .AL domains than I have seen in my entire time on NamePros. Any particular reason? What are your opinions on the extension?

 

[UXela]

@alcy if you feel so strongly against this extension I'm having trouble understanding why you are wasting your time posting in this thread so frequently.
If I didn't know that you are a respectable and honorable member here I would have thought there is some "interesting interest" at stake here.

 

[alcy]

@alcy if you feel so strongly against this extension I'm having trouble understanding why you are wasting your time posting in this thread so frequently.
If I didn't know that you are a respectable and honorable member here I would have thought there is some "interesting interest" at stake here.

I like it up to LL. then I do not like it.
and I have the right to it. and you have right to opposite if you want to.

I am not sure I understand how this is about honor or respect and not about .al extension. if you wish to have a personal discussion with me, please pm and we can invite the moderator to it. i was instucted by moderator not to carry personal disussion on thread earlier. ty.

 

[UXela]

Let's start with what people reading this thread care about:
Yes, there are pretty deep discounts for those who have many .al domains with host-al.
If you get to the point where you need to renew or register in bulk PM me and I'll tell you how to get that discount - or at least how I got it.

Now, @alcy: I was simply saying that I know you are a honorable and respected member here on NP. You make some valid points, come up with interesting / intelligent ideas and help others on other threads (still not sure this one counts). I am also sure you know and agree it is not ethically okay to use this influence you might or might not have to try and drive the market value of "assets".
Knowing this I am sure your strong opinions against .al were not expresses hoping that the end result would be for certain persons to freak out and sell way cheaper than they should have to some unnamed investor. You were only expressing your own opinion but you happen to have strong opinions.
Right?
Is it clear now or do I need to make a drawing?

For now I didn't receive any warning about carrying out personal discussions on this thread. I probably will but my strong opinion is that this discussion should stay public.
I am entitled to strong opinions too aren't I?

 

[JackChan]

Guys, how long do you think you are going to hold NN.al or LL.al ? Honestly, do you think the big storm will hit .AL anytime soon? I am really wonder what Chinese people/investor think about .AL.

 

[Silentptnr]

I have no idea. I'm in the US. Based on the bidding here on NP, you could wait a month then put it up for auction here. There has been plenty of bidding on good NN.al and LL.al.

 

[alcy]

Let's start with what people reading this thread care about:
Yes, there are pretty deep discounts for those who have many .al domains with host-al.
If you get to the point where you need to renew or register in bulk PM me and I'll tell you how to get that discount - or at least how I got it.

Now, @alcy: I was simply saying that I know you are a honorable and respected member here on NP. You make some valid points, come up with interesting / intelligent ideas and help others on other threads (still not sure this one counts). I am also sure you know and agree it is not ethically okay to use this influence you might or might not have to try and drive the market value of "assets".
Knowing this I am sure your strong opinions against .al were not expresses hoping that the end result would be for certain persons to freak out and sell way cheaper than they should have to some unnamed investor. You were only expressing your own opinion but you happen to have strong opinions.
Right?
Is it clear now or do I need to make a drawing?

For now I didn't receive any warning about carrying out personal discussions on this thread. I probably will but my strong opinion is that this discussion should stay public.
I am entitled to strong opinions too aren't I?

well yes you are entitled to strong opinions. but then you have to be ready to be accused of same things you are accusing others. are you ready to be accused of trying to drive market value of .al domains?

 

[JackChan]

I have no idea. I'm in the US. Based on the bidding here on NP, you could wait a month then put it up for auction here. There has been plenty of bidding on good NN.al and LL.al.

Actually I do see LL.al on NP auctions but not NN.al yet. I would interest to see the value once NN.al step into auction .

 

[Silentptnr]

They seem to get offers on Sedo.
https://sedo.com/search/searchresult.php4?cc[]=al&safe_search=1&rel=4&orderdirection=2&language=us

el.al has had 42 recorded offers on sedo. LL.al should do fine. IMHO

 

[Silentptnr]

I think that for corporate uses, .al can also be used for many domain name hacks. I think this is why the .al domains on Sedo get offers.

 

[JackChan]

If I am remember right, the .Al extension just open LL.al only few month ago correct?

 

[Silentptnr]

Not sure. Seems to be different infomation about that.

 

[UXela]

@alcy
1. You are avoiding a direct answer by making threats instead.
2. I did not accuse you of anything. I was simply saying that your posts can be interpreted as such. I was giving you the opportunity to just say "Yes dude, I'm a guy with strong opinions, I have no other interest."
3. You can accuse me of whatever you want. If you read through my posts you could realize that I might have driven the value down just by being honest about it when my interest would have been to drive it up.
...but you don't read thoroughly, you answer briefly and off the point and throw dirt.

So... I just realized I'm wasting my time. From my point of view this subject is closed. If you want to accuse me or whatever go ahead.

 

[UXela]

If I am remember right, the .Al extension just open LL.al only few month ago correct?

No, it opened some time at the end of 2014 if I remember correctly.

 

[JackChan]

@UXela thanks for giving out the info. I think no matter what, the LL / NN of .al will raise the value very soon. As I remember back in time like a year ago some LL of some ccTLD sold in good reseller price of mid $xxx to high $xxx too.

For that, I believe get any LL / NN of .al at the reasonable price right now while you can or else once the heat pump up .. you can't touch it.

 

[UXela]

Look guys,
I am not sure it would rise in a spectacular manner.
All I know is that as of today I am break-even on my .al investment without accounting for the (most likely one-off) sale I mentioned here.
Everything that comes after this is bonus for me
Full disclosure: Yes, I do still own about 40 .al (not all LL / NL / LN).

 

[alcy]

@alcy
1. You are avoiding a direct answer by making threats instead.
2. I did not accuse you of anything. I was simply saying that your posts can be interpreted as such. I was giving you the opportunity to just say "Yes dude, I'm a guy with strong opinions, I have no other interest."
3. You can accuse me of whatever you want. If you read through my posts you could realize that I might have driven the value down just by being honest about it when my interest would have been to drive it up.
...but you don't read thoroughly, you answer briefly and off the point and throw dirt.

So... I just realized I'm wasting my time. From my point of view this subject is closed. If you want to accuse me or whatever go ahead.

@UXela : well.. there was nothing to answer to. it was your story and invention. I wasn't even trying to answer.

however, what I said was true that if you want to have strong opinion about it, you have to be ready to receive accusations like you made on me. it's only fair.

so whats yoru thing? are you affiliated with .al registrars and you are getting money everytime someone registrars .al domains? what motivates you to go so out of your way to accuse publically complete strangers, ruin their reputation, just because they say they see no potential in an extension?

 

[UXela]

That was funny
No @alcy, I'm not affiliated with them the way you think I am.
I have a re-seller account that I got when I asked for volume discount.
It gathered exactly 15 clicks and no signup.
Screenshot is below.
If you want to match my affiliate id shown there with my account that holds domains I am sure we can somehow do this.
I can give you another screenshot showing that I do have lots of registration activity in the account with same id. Or invoices, or something like that. I will only need to black out the domain names.

However, yes, I do have special reg. pricing and I always had it after I asked them.

What drives me?
Simple: I find your activity on this thread weird considering you have strong opinions against .al
I also have some .al domains that I would prefer to sell at an honest price. I don't want the value artificially driven down by the opinion of one guy who shows weird activity.
Even more simple?
It was fishy.

Since you say it was all my invention we're cool. You're just a guy with strong opinions. Okay!
Why didn't you just say yes when I gave you 2 opportunities earlier in the thread?
We would have spared some thread space.
Anyway...

 

[alcy]

That was funny
No @alcy, I'm not affiliated with them the way you think I am.
I have a re-seller account that I got when I asked for volume discount.
It gathered exactly 15 clicks and no signup.
Screenshot is below.
If you want to match my affiliate id shown there with my account that holds domains I am sure we can somehow do this.
I can give you another screenshot showing that I do have lots of registration activity in the account with same id. Or invoices, or something like that. I will only need to black out the domain names.

However, yes, I do have special reg. pricing and I always had it after I asked them.

good. thanks for sharing. I am glad and hope we can remain on good terms somehow. you seem like an intelligent fellow.

I obviously don't need any invoices or such from you. you just do your thing and I hope you do well in it. I was simply curious about the motivation behind your vicious attack on me. I guess we should stop this now, or we'll both get suspended from namepros for this chatter.

I hope I am wrong in saying only LL/NN will succeed. and yet, that is my prediction and opinion on it, and that's what I will stick to. cause that's what opinioins are for. to each his own.

good luck to all .al people of this thread.

 

[UXela]

Okay
Even if your prediction is true I'm covered as I have mainly LL and NL
Good luck to us all!

 

[alcy]

Okay
Even if your prediction is true I'm covered as I have mainly LL and NL
Good luck to us all!

good for you
NN/LL are guaranteed winners.. as in: they will always have some floor value..
the rest.. well.. like for any extension only time will tell.

au revoir.

 

[Silentptnr]

.al seems to have good possibilities for domain hacks. I think those brandable .al domains that are solid hacks could be saleable.

 

[Kate]

In my opinion, .al is worth a look simply because it's a European TLD. In Europe the ccTLDs tend to rule but there are disparities from one country to another.
However, the .al TLD is not very mature presently.
it is a small market, and Albania is among the poorest countries of Europe.

Albania is already a member of NATO and it is candidate for EU membership. But this is not for the near future (and assuming the EU has not disintegrated in the meantime).
There is good potential in tourism too.

I would personally NOT set my sights on domain hacks or the mystical Chinese end user. Instead, consider domain names that could appeal to local end users. LL/LLL are always popular for use as corporate acronyms.
Obviously you need a long-term horizon here.

Keep in mind that the TLD is still immature, thus it cannot command high prices. And it will always be a small market.

 

[JackChan]

@Kate, Do you think LL / NN can make at least 500% - 1000% profit from reg fee? If so then I think we are pretty much all happy until we can hit the big boss for our domain.

 

[Kate]

1000% profit is not much, it's just flipping. Maybe it's possible from a domainer to another. I have never sold a .al domain yet, so I don't know if there are many end users right now. I have sold names in tiny ccTLDs, but not in .al yet.

Since .al is still embryonic, there is a lot of room for growth. But the rise is going to be slow.
The only problem for investors is time.

 

[Silentptnr]

I had an opportunity to acquire a small number of .al domains that are all LL. Mostly good letters. I plan somewhere down the road to sell them and when I do, odds are good that I will make a profit.