What will be the biggest flop in '08?

[jacal1]

By the way, this IS an "official" thread - in case you were wondering :hehe: .

My guesses for biggest flops:

dictionary words with no commercial connection

.us

.tv

"brandable" nonsense words

LLLLs in anything but .com

all but the 4-5 biggest silent auctions (or was that '07?)

.biz (or was that '06?)

 

[-REECE-]

Biggest flop in 2008... Those who pass up on the opportunity to purchase reasonably priced LLLL.coms on the aftermarket :imho:

 

[mkylut]

biggest flop 08? no, there is no biggest flop .

 

[ssamriga]

The Namepros aftermarket... there seems to be quite a few new registered memebers who are very uneducated that ruin sale threads, and the trend seems that it will only become a bigger issue in 08.

Can you please explain what do you think by that?

 

[hawkeye]

- Newbie and newer domainers, getting caught up on buying names based on thread promotions like "Get your Dubai (or anything) names..", "L-L-L-L-..... going fast!", "Hurry, CV-C, or C-VC the new hot names", "Countdown for ....., got yours?", "These will be the next hot domains...."., etc. etc., posted by those with no knowledge or insight, but plenty of 'Hanging on a Prayer' hype and dreams.

- 'Anyone' not willing to think for themselves or 'outside the box', but following the lead of those that don't know themselves!!

 

[bricio]

i read all this thread...
many interesting opinions here and according to them these will be flops in 2008

.us, .tv, .biz, .asia, .mobi, .name, .pro, .aero, .pro, .ws, .cc, .coop, .tel, .org, .eu, LLLL that wont be renewed, LLLL but dot com, brandable nonsense words, IDN (it was told spanish ones)

so, my conclusion is very simple... dot com is and will be the king for a long time even these extensions dont be a flop in 2008 or in the years to come

so guys and girls lets go to dot com

 

[Keith]

the biggest flop IMO will be LLL.mobi if not in 08 then it will be the biggest flop in 09. because it will become obsolete extension.
1. There are almost no developed mobi sites. At least I haven't seen anyone!
2. Mobile devices are becoming better and better and you can view normal sites with them instead of feature-lacking mobile versions.
3. Even bid companies don't care about mobile versions. What then about small companies. The never needed LLL.infos!
4. If you want to make mobile version of site - do it at .com with autodetection of mobile browser and offering to choose between normal version and mobile.
4. LLL.infos are even now so hugely overpriced that I'm really mad But I will never buy even a single .mobi unless generic commercial one word.
5. .tel will be cheaper alternative to .mobi (if anyone ever needed .mobi that I'm very doubt of) and those companies who wanted .mobi will regfee .tel because telephones are the only devices that need mobile versions of sites.

.mobi and .tel are two completely different things. Companies wanting to make their websites mobile will not use .tel. Read up a little on the difference between the two. I actually just read up on the difference myself because of your post

 

[gubera]

Newbie and newer domainers, getting caught up on buying names based on thread promotions like "Get your Dubai (or anything) names..", "L-L-L-L-..... going fast!", "Hurry, CV-C, or C-VC the new hot names", "Countdown for ....., got yours?", "These will be the next hot domains...."., etc. etc., posted by those with no knowledge or insight, but plenty of 'Hanging on a Prayer' hype and dreams.

Exactly!

A big flop for another wave of newbies who pour a huge amount of money into domaining, hand registering names based on success stories and not on educated decisions.

 

[Seabass]

.mobi

.asia

.biz

.eu

and LLLL (how many companies have four words in their name? There is no inherent latent value hidden in them)

I think .TV still has some value to video based sites and .US actually may be a dark horse that could rise with time.

The rest, like .pro and .name are not even worth mentioning, so they can't really be called a flop can they?

 

[JAugusto]

Which is longer with more letters and dots and has a higher chance of a typo and will take longer to type in your phone?

mobile.domainname.com

domainname.mobi

I think .mobi will be far from being a flop in '08.

How about

m.domainname.com <- 14 letters
domainname.mobi <- 14 letters

Fisrt one is already being used a lot, like m.google.com

 

[hawkeye]

How about

m.domainname.com <- 14 letters
domainname.mobi <- 14 letters

Fisrt one is already being used a lot, like m.google.com

..eeppp! "Survey says: Baannnnttt!"

Top one has 2 '.'s so that is 16 strokes for 'm.', and 15 strokes for '.mobi'.

Your point is??

 

[bricio]

How about

m.domainname.com <- 14 letters
domainname.mobi <- 14 letters

Fisrt one is already being used a lot, like m.google.com

ok, they have 14 letters each but with .mobi we have a pattern
instead of m.whateever.com, whatever.com/mobile, whatevermobile.com why not whatever.mobi?

but lets not make this thread a .mobi discussion... this thread is about flops in 2008

 

[sashas]

.mobi

Why?

Because people don't change their habits. They will continue to type in Google.com into their mobile browsers, which will redirect to a mobile compliant site. But habits don't change

When Google became popular, everyone said that it was the end of the parking industry as people will just google instead of typing in. That didn't happen however; people are habitual, and .com is still at the top of everyone's mind.

Moreover, .mobi is too young a TLD to consider. .com has been around for 20 years and has 12 years of advertising behind it. You can't beat that.

 

[hawkeye]

edit.

 

[Rubber Duck]

On subject, anything that was bought without a proper game plan. It is clear from this thread that even dead beat domainers are beginning to realise that they are being conned with an endless stream of new offers that have no underlying intrinsic value. If there is to be growth then we need to identify where that growth is going to come from and work out how to serve the increasing demand. There are an other billion people due to come on line, but they aren't walking around in Downtown America. You all need to analyse the markets, and come up with a plan to serve the needs of emerging markets. Dot Mobi ain't going to cut it and neither are a string of other junk extension that have and are about to be launched. Start by asking who you customers are going to be. Marketing 101.

..eeppp! "Survey says: Baannnnttt!"

Top one has 2 '.'s so that is 16 strokes for 'm.', and 15 strokes for '.mobi'.

Your point is??

Only if you got a qwerty keyboard or a touch screen, but those phones are going to have fully functional zooming/scrolling browsers anyway. Be honest. Pick a bog standard phone and start typing in, either way it is a lot!

 

[Andrei P.]

.mobi and .tel are two completely different things. Companies wanting to make their websites mobile will not use .tel. Read up a little on the difference between the two. I actually just read up on the difference myself because of your post

That's true. But end-users not always read and understand what certain tld means. According to your words .biz domains must have been second most popular after .com because its business internet zone. I don't read what .tel means but for me it sounds like domain somewhat connected to telephones. It can be phone numbers, mobile content, etc.

Some superpremium LL-Ls are already 2-3 regfees even considering that there are still available premium LL-Ls.

 

[Rubber Duck]

That's true. But end-users not always read and understand what certain tld means. According to your words .biz domains must have been second most popular after .com because its business internet zone. I don't read what .tel means but for me it sounds like domain somewhat connected to telephones. It can be phone numbers, mobile content, etc.

Some superpremium LL-Ls are already 2-3 regfees even considering that there are still available premium LL-Ls.

WTF is a Superpremium LL-L? To be recognised a Premium even surely there has to be tacit acknowledgement by the market that this class of domain is even investment grade in the first place?

 

[Andrei P.]

WTF is a Superpremium LL-L? To be recognised a Premium even surely there has to be tacit acknowledgement by the market that this class of domain is even investment grade in the first place?

f,g,h.o,g,l,o are considered worst premium letters
s, c, a (sometimes t and i if its first letter) are considered best premium letters. So domain like sn-s, sc-a, a-sm etc. are commonly considered super-premiums I encountered this classification several times already.

 

[Kate]

f,g,h.o,g,l,o are considered worst premium letters
s, c, a (sometimes t and i if its first letter) are considered best premium letters. So domain like sn-s, sc-a, a-sm etc. are commonly considered super-premiums I encountered this classification several times already.

Hyphened names like that do not classify as premium in my books either...

 

[hawkeye]

f,g,h.o,g,l,o are considered worst premium letters
s, c, a (sometimes t and i if its first letter) are considered best premium letters.

'o' must be a pretty bad letter if it gets mentioned twice in as a worse premium.

So domain like sn-s, sc-a, a-sm etc. are commonly considered super-premiums I encountered this classification several times already.

...oohh, definitely 'these types' of names look to be 'wise' and lucrative investments'.

 

[akcampbell]

.Pro is a commercial gTLD so it's worth mentioning, but not in the context of flopping in 2008 because it hasn't left its nest yet. It's ludicrously overpriced to register and has some dumb restrictions but it's easier on the eye and ear than other alternative extensions and very brandable.

Show.biz, Cable.tv and Ringtones.mobi are stunning but most alternative extensions lack goodness of fit with their keyword outside very narrow parameters. .Mobi works with anything mobile phone related even though it's a clumsy made up word and .tv works with anything to do with film, TV, and media. The strength of .Pro is it works with a very broad range of keywords because everybody wants to be a Pro at what they do.

I don't buy the old wives' tale that .Mobi is the red carpet for the mobile internet to strut down. It can't be beyond the wit of man to develop a browser that recognises screen resolution and adapts page layout accordingly. It seems a bit self-defeating to be betting on and against technology simultaneously.

Having said that, I can't see .mobi flopping in 2008, it does what it say on the tin with the right keyword, and the .mobi registry and other interested parties have worked miracles getting people to pay low to mid $XXX,XXX for the best keywords. It's the closest thing to alchemy I've ever seen and that sort of momentum isn't going to disappear overnight.