Time to invest .xyz

Domain Monk · Aug 11, 2015

After google decision is it worth investing in xyz extension? Will it's value increase?

Dondomainer · Oct 26, 2015

Domainsyrup said:
I have few .xyz
Esportsbetting
OnlineCasinos

87...all premium... including 16 three letters pronounceable. good hunting.

Ms Domainer · Oct 26, 2015

My only xyz domain:

xyzat.com

ChubbyDfat · Oct 26, 2015

gipson said:
87...all premium

I have a serious question... Are those actual "Premium" domains or domains that would be considered "premium" if they where in .COM?
I ask this because in my opinion, way too many people now a days are loosing sight of what constitutes a actual "premium" (category buster names like Computer, Sex, Car, Gas/Fuel, Work, Casino, Code, Home... etc) domain names for something second rate domain names (like Thesaurus, VacationHomes, PlayPoker, LearnToCode, FixComputers,... etc) which would be considered premium in .COM (and only .COM).

Just curious on what you consider premium. My master list of premium words pretty much all got bumped back for XYZ as a majority of these names where reserved by the registry.

Ms Domainer said:
My only xyz domain:

xyzat.com

Ha.... Comes with jokes... That is pretty funny. +1 for the like department.

Cheers

Dondomainer · Oct 26, 2015

ChubbyDfat said:
Just curious on what you consider premium. My master list of premium words pretty much all got bumped back for XYZ as a majority of these names where reserved by the registry.

Cheers

Words are premium regardless of the .com

premium Words : which more monthly searches without being a registered trademark, like .. michelin, CVS Pharmacy, ...

mad409 · Oct 26, 2015

@ ChubbyDfat I have DRUGS .xyz which I'd consider premium. If I had buydrugs .xyz I personally would not consider that premium. I sometimes think the world premium is used loosely. JMO

jedaprin · Oct 26, 2015

i think premium is either one letter or two letters, with up to 10 characters total, Try to keep it as short as possible tho

Also I dont buy big long gtlds like mystocks.finance or playpiano.hotel or sellphones.buisness
who the hell wants to type in tons of characters.

What i would consider premium tho is something like stocks.finance or BBB.Buisness

jedaprin · Oct 26, 2015

lol i got

Cocain.xyz
CrystalMeth.xyz
Weedoil.xyz

Dondomainer · Oct 26, 2015

any famous domainer who has registered .xyz ?

ChubbyDfat · Oct 26, 2015

mad409 said:
@ ChubbyDfat I have DRUGS .xyz which I'd consider premium. If I had buydrugs .xyz I personally would not consider that premium. I sometimes think the world premium is used loosely. JMO

I agree with you @mad409. There is a distinct difference between actual premium words and what is now considered "premium" by way of .COM.
Drugs (dot) com would be a category killer. I am sure we could all agree on that.
Now, buydrugs (dot) com would (by most) be considered a premium name.
By virtue of being a .COM it makes it a premium name because of the fact that the category killers where sold some 20+ years ago.

It is my belief that people are getting this confused. If you look around at some of the names that are being presented (not just XYZ but all the nTLDs) as "premium", you may start to see what I am seeing.
SUVcars
BigTable
PokerRoom
CardRatings
CasinoHouse
DiscountCoupons.... and the list can go on (several names chosen at random that people registered in different nTLDs).

I do believe that many people are making the mistake of mixing up what is considered premium in .COM and trying to apply that to nTLDs.
nTLDs is your chance to buy category killer domain names (the true premium domain names) but more often then not, the registry reserves these names for themselves.

With new TLDs coming out weekly... why would any settle for less then a tier 1 category killer premium keyword domain name is beyond me. **I know, people will make the argument that this extension is going to be the next .COM... but in all likelihood with the number of new TLDs coming out, there is not going to be another .COM but rather an equilibrium between many/all of the nTLDs and the gTLDs.

Just an opinion.

Cheers

Dondomainer · Oct 27, 2015

I do not understand why there is such a conservative discourse about .com, far from the reality, future and the development and growth of technology.

there will be another .com ?..no, there will be better extensions and better opportunities than the .com

The domain business is changing, from a few to some thousands of investors, and perhaps, have a premium word now it is much more valuable, for the simple reason that is already known the power of good name to compete against companies that have monopolized many online services.

.com is not dead, and never die but nevertheless, gradually stop having leadership.

jedaprin · Oct 27, 2015

Apparently The owner of Facebook used a xyz domain

http://onlinedomain.com/2015/09/16/news/facebook-just-used-a-xyz-domain-not-a-very-good-one/
heres the link

Dondomainer · Oct 28, 2015

Those who are using .xyz

cnet.xyz

namejet.xyz

edweb.xyz

and more

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=site:.xyz&safe=off&start=0

JB Lions · Oct 28, 2015

gipson said:
Those who are using .xyz

cnet.xyz

namejet.xyz

edweb.xyz

and more

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=site:.xyz&safe=off&start=0

I tried cnet and namejet, just more forwarding to the .com. Just the usual companies covering their names in other extensions.

http://www.cnet.xyz

http://www.namejet.xyz

jedaprin · Oct 28, 2015

Awesome Thats a cool trick i never you could search in all the .xyz with site:.xyz im sure it works for all other domain to like .top

ChubbyDfat · Oct 28, 2015

gipson said:
Those who are using .xyz

cnet.xyz

namejet.xyz

edweb.xyz

and more

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=site:.xyz&safe=off&start=0

This is nothing new. Companies have been registering other then .COM domains for a long time (mostly defensive).
But for the sake of argument, I would like to point out that Facebook, Google, Amazon, Overstock, Godaddy, Taco Bell, and many other larger companies have and use .CO domain names.
FB (dot) CO (forwards to FaceBook)
TA (dot) CO (forwards to Taco Bell)
G (dot) CO (is used by Google along with GOO (dot) GL)
A (dot) CO (forwards to Amazon)
O (dot) CO (forwards to Overstock... and they even attempted to re-brand with it at one time)

What you have pointed out is useless because these kinds of registrations have been made across a wide variety of domain extensions. We mostly refer to them as "defensive registrations" and it a sticking point for some of the people here who think that nTLDs are conning large corporations/businesses out of $$$ for defensive registrations.

Let me bring this full circle so that there is no misunderstanding here. The moment one of these *BIG* companies (lets say XYZ since we are under that thread) uses a given extension for *MAJOR* project or re-brand is the moment that the nTLD will be thrust into the spotlight.
For this to happen (which Overstock tried and failed), it would require a massive amount of capital being invested into this entity.
For all your arguments, Google has not invested intensively into XYZ... it made a landing page.
FaceBook utilized one of their programmers domain name as a portal for a live feed... once!
Other sites have redirects to their normal .COM sites which can be seen across many extensions.

Nothing listed above is going to reshape the domain extensions as we know it. It will take a full on capital investment either for a new start up that takes off or for a total re-brand of an existing company.
Probably not best to hold your breath for a re-brand.

With startups.... they have literally thousands of extensions to chose from.
Many people will argue that .IO is the extension for startups.
The point is that it can be any extension out there and could happen (if it does) at any time.

Dont waste your time or money registering second tier domain names. If you are going to play the nTLD game... do yourself a favor and ONLY register category killer domain names. If they are not available in a given extension... they another extension.... there are hundreds/thousands out there with more to come.

*Edit* "Rick Schwartz Invested in .XYZ !!!"
Rick Schwartz has also invested in many other extensions. XYZ is only one extension. Didnt he also have Flowers (dot) Mobi in which he got burned on big time?
Just saying

Cheers

Alessandro Couteau · Oct 28, 2015

Rick Schwartz Invested in .XYZ !!!

bigdomainer · Oct 28, 2015

Here is what I have so far:

DOMAINCRAZE.XYZ
PLAYOFFS.XYZ
DIRECTORIES.XYZ
DOMAINDIRECTORY.XYZ
MINISTERS.XYZ
SUBS.XYZ

Alessandro Couteau · Oct 28, 2015

ChubbyDfat said:
This is nothing new. Companies have been registering other then .COM domains for a long time (mostly defensive).
But for the sake of argument, I would like to point out that Facebook, Google, Amazon, Overstock, Godaddy, Taco Bell, and many other larger companies have and use .CO domain names.
FB (dot) CO (forwards to FaceBook)
TA (dot) CO (forwards to Taco Bell)
G (dot) CO (is used by Google along with GOO (dot) GL)
A (dot) CO (forwards to Amazon)
O (dot) CO (forwards to Overstock... and they even attempted to re-brand with it at one time)

What you have pointed out is useless because these kinds of registrations have been made across a wide variety of domain extensions. We mostly refer to them as "defensive registrations" and it a sticking point for some of the people here who think that nTLDs are conning large corporations/businesses out of $$$ for defensive
registrations.

Let me bring this full circle so that there is no misunderstanding here. The moment one of these *BIG* companies (lets say XYZ since we are under that thread) uses a given extension for *MAJOR* project or re-brand is the moment that the nTLD will be thrust into the spotlight.
For this to happen (which Overstock tried and failed), it would require a massive amount of capital being invested into this entity.
For all your arguments, Google has not invested intensively
into XYZ... it made a landing page.

FaceBook utilized one of their programmers domain name as a portal for a live feed... once!
Other sites have redirects to their normal .COM sites which can be seen across many extensions.

Nothing listed above is going to reshape the domain extensions as we know it. It will take a full on capital investment either for a new start up that takes off or for a total re-brand of an existing company.
Probably not best to hold your breath for a re-brand.

With startups.... they have literally thousands of extensions to chose from.
Many people will argue that .IO is the extension for startups.
The point is that it can be any extension out there and could happen (if it does) at any time.

Dont waste your time or money registering second tier domain names. If you are going to play the nTLD game... do yourself a favor and ONLY register category killer domain names. If they are not available in a given extension... they another extension.... there are hundreds/thousands out there with more to come.

*Edit* "Rick Schwartz Invested in .XYZ !!!"
Rick Schwartz has also invested in many other extensions. XYZ is only one extension. Didnt he also have Flowers (dot) Mobi in which he got burned on big time?
Just saying

Cheers

Haha did .Mobi have one billion registered domains?

Alessandro Couteau · Oct 28, 2015

I agree some large capitol has to be thrown down to get XYZ in the lime light.

Dondomainer · Oct 28, 2015

ChubbyDfat said:
This is nothing new. Companies have been registering other then .COM domains for a long time (mostly defensive).
But for the sake of argument, I would like to point out that Facebook, Google, Amazon, Overstock, Godaddy, Taco Bell, and many other larger companies have and use .CO domain names.
FB (dot) CO (forwards to FaceBook)
TA (dot) CO (forwards to Taco Bell)
G (dot) CO (is used by Google along with GOO (dot) GL)
A (dot) CO (forwards to Amazon)
O (dot) CO (forwards to Overstock... and they even attempted to re-brand with it at one time)

What you have pointed out is useless because these kinds of registrations have been made across a wide variety of domain extensions. We mostly refer to them as "defensive registrations" and it a sticking point for some of the people here who think that nTLDs are conning large corporations/businesses out of $$$ for defensive registrations.

Let me bring this full circle so that there is no misunderstanding here. The moment one of these *BIG* companies (lets say XYZ since we are under that thread) uses a given extension for *MAJOR* project or re-brand is the moment that the nTLD will be thrust into the spotlight.
For this to happen (which Overstock tried and failed), it would require a massive amount of capital being invested into this entity.
For all your arguments, Google has not invested intensively into XYZ... it made a landing page.
FaceBook utilized one of their programmers domain name as a portal for a live feed... once!
Other sites have redirects to their normal .COM sites which can be seen across many extensions.

Nothing listed above is going to reshape the domain extensions as we know it. It will take a full on capital investment either for a new start up that takes off or for a total re-brand of an existing company.
Probably not best to hold your breath for a re-brand.

With startups.... they have literally thousands of extensions to chose from.
Many people will argue that .IO is the extension for startups.
The point is that it can be any extension out there and could happen (if it does) at any time.

Dont waste your time or money registering second tier domain names. If you are going to play the nTLD game... do yourself a favor and ONLY register category killer domain names. If they are not available in a given extension... they another extension.... there are hundreds/thousands out there with more to come.

*Edit* "Rick Schwartz Invested in .XYZ !!!"
Rick Schwartz has also invested in many other extensions. XYZ is only one extension. Didnt he also have Flowers (dot) Mobi in which he got burned on big time?
Just saying

Cheers

I agree, re-mark It is not an option for established companies, but for new businesses is the best option, until now, many services and domains (.com, .co ) are monopolized by a few companies, but internet markets are growing always, We have not seen everything you would expect from a search engine, video website, online shopping, cloud and other products and services, so think that the game will not change It is like saying that internet is always what it is today.

About IO, IO is assigned to the British Indian Ocean Territory, like .co to Colombia, but .xyz not mean anything.

What I see ?

I see Fear.

jedaprin · Oct 28, 2015

Lol I was Searching for Playoff.xyz I guess you beat me to the name :P
and the only way i would buy one of those site is unless it was epic like
Zuckerberg.fb.co
Amazing.a.co
Search.G.co

ChubbyDfat · Oct 28, 2015

gipson said:
I agree, re-mark It is not an option for established companies, but for new businesses is the best option, until now, many services and domains (.com, .co ) are monopolized by a few companies, but internet markets are growing always, We have not seen everything you would expect from a search engine, video website, online shopping, cloud and other products and services, so think that the game will not change It is like saying that internet is always what it is today.

About IO, IO is assigned to the British Indian Ocean Territory, like .co to Colombia, but .xyz not mean anything.

What I see ?

I see Fear.

Fear? Was that directed towards me? Have you looked at my signature of late?
I am a big fan of nTLDs, I have many and I realized a while back that it is the perfect opportunity to grab CATEGORY KILLER or ultra rare domains, the likes of which I would never be able to own in .COM/.NET/.ORG/.CO.

As far as XYZ being the best option for startups... I think you missed my point. I pointed out that there are over 1,000 (with more coming out all the time) TLDs in which a new business has to choose from.
If you really look at the list you will see that there are many extensions that are ambiguous as to its content (like XYZ). There are many more who have not come out yet that will be ambiguous as well.

If you go back and read some of my old comments you will see exactly why I do not care for XYZ in its self and it has to do with the owner.
There is proof out there that he has lied, he has cheated, he has misrepresented, and has engaged in outright fabrication/manipulation of numbers on many levels.
Yes, you can say that the domains that they just inserted into peoples accounts have gone away, but one could be quick to point out that the new ploy is domains for about 50 cents (in Japan) which now makes up the bulk of their recent registrations.
There is also evidence that the registry has registered names to itself (not talking about reserved certain names... but registered names to bump up the number).

If this was a company and I was an investor... they would be in deep do do for "cooking the books", "fudging the numbers" to make themselves appear bigger and better then they are.
Its no real secret that they have done it... it has made the news when they first launched.
They seem to be getting more creative about doing it now but it seems to still be going on.

Go ahead and continue to beat the XYZ drum, it really makes no difference to me.
For someone like Jedaprin, this is why I make my comments. I just hope that he reads what I write and does the actual footwork for himself.
If he takes a moment and looks at my signature, each one of those names (good or bad), have been purchased for reg. fee with reg. fee renewals.
In my opinion, great names can be had... just need to look outside of one singular extension and try them all.

Hope that makes sense.

Cheers

jedaprin · Oct 28, 2015

YEa those are some premium ones A.How W.How there good names
I dont normally just splurge cash on things. I just got a gut feeling these might be the new wave of domains people might prefer, Even if it is manipulated numbers it still has everyone talking and investing more and more daily, Im happy with what i got but im going to need to sell quite a few to renew the premium ones i plan on keeping.

The Extention .xyz Sounds Cutting Edge, New and Uncharted its slowly gaining more popularity and i feel it will become just as popular as .net .org .co as long as nothing major happens

there's a famous quote from a famous guy
A Good Extension is worth a million domains

SeriousName.com · Oct 28, 2015

I haven't been marketing my xyz names, though I've had a company in France contact me for an xyz name still in negotiations, right now its low mid $x,xxx. Also i've recently this week had an offer on another xyz domain for undisclosed amount. I don't normally chime in on these types of convos, but to say this extension is worthless just isn't true.

D. Wells · Oct 28, 2015

imo

.xyz is in the same category as .top. Over 90% of my spam comes from a .xyz domain.

There are better places to put your money than .xyz.

Time to invest .xyz

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