question XYZ sales, really???

[betthelot]

Am I the only one that feels the numbers and values are looking suspicious. Given xyz history with using smokes and mirrors to market the name space I am a bit sceptical but can be convinced otherwise.
What is your gut feel? Last 2 weeks sales from same person Swetha DNGear
beacon.xyz $24,888
Genisis.xyz $21,399
Patron.xyz $9,888
Protocol.xyz $8,000
Split.xyz $7,888

 

[elevator]

I wonder if all this bodes well for other new gTLD's like .online? While I don't own 60,000 .online domains (just 3,500), it makes me wonder if the registry XYZ.com isn't behind all this?

btw, i don't believe there's anything wrong, illegal or unethical if XYZ.com is behind this, I'm just saying

Well! What I know is that those domains belongs to @DNGear before sales. Major issue is that those domains are highly profiles, any highly profiled names will sell, especially, they were registered for 5 -6 years and the volume of the portfolio is huge and sold very few domains; meaning she still have much more domains to sell.

Your portfoilio might big as you said but what matter is having high profiled domains, and .online can aswell reasonate with the keywords you are having with the .online, but however, .online is not comparable to .xyz, you know xyz means alot aswell. xyz means everything about the keyword.and very short and easy to remember.

.xyz has a lot to rival with .com in as time goes on in the domains' world.

As you said that could .xyz registry be behind the sales. Yes ! I believed they are ! In terms of marketing of the extension, their marketing strategies made the extension popular and attractive.

Cheers and good luck

 

[skshogun]

We really don't know the risk reward for her domains until we know how much she paid for them and more detail like her true identity for example. I thought I saw somewhere she owned 60,000 domains, but now I understand it's more like 18,000? Frankly I find the entire domain industry to be very suspect from top to bottom.

The xyz registry recently bought DominionDomains.com (a domain that I gave to them) that owned the extensions .homes, .autos, .boats, .yachts and .motorcycle, and I know first hand the whole story behind Dominion because they're in my home town where I'm pretty well connected. I can't go into detail, but I wouldn't trust them with a damn thing

Just to clarify the 18,000 vs 60,000. I think this has been explained by the seller and the difference is because they don't renew all names. Which I think makes sense and adds to the credibility (and I believe the seller, I've seen developed xyz sites that they sold).

 

[ThatNameGuy]

Well! What I know is that those domains belongs to @DNGear before sales. Major issue is that those domains are highly profiles, any highly profiled names will sell, especially, they were registered for 5 -6 years and the volume of the portfolio is huge and sold very few domains; meaning she still have much more domains to sell.

Your portfoilio might big as you said but what matter is having high profiled domains, and .online can aswell reasonate with the keywords you are having with the .online, but however, .online is not comparable to .xyz, you know xyz means alot aswell. xyz means everything about the keyword.and very short and easy to remember.

.xyz has a lot to rival with .com in as time goes on in the domains' world.

As you said that could .xyz registry be behind the sales. Yes ! I believed they are ! In terms of marketing of the extension, their marketing strategies made the extension popular and attractive.

Cheers and good luck

elevator....as a "Designer" you seem to be pretty close to the situation with Shoeba and xyz.com. With the five sales listed by betthelot none of them have been developed yet, but one would think they would link to a page that would say "Coming Soon".

The one thing I know about .xyz and about .online is very few sell themselves. Few if any "end users" even know they exist. They need real exposure similar to the way anything else in this world is sold.

elevator....i know a lot of business people both young and old, and I've yet to talk to one that knows about the the new gTLD's, and that includes the two most popular .xyz and .online.

I'm just saying.....but thanks for your comments.

 

[ThatNameGuy]

Just to clarify the 18,000 vs 60,000. I think this has been explained by the seller and the difference is because they don't renew all names. Which I think makes sense and adds to the credibility (and I believe the seller, I've seen developed xyz sites that they sold).

Thanks for the clarification....to the extent Shoeba/.xyz actually develop some of the sites they sell, that's a pretty big deal. You may have heard me say that most domains I buy/own have a business plan/model behind them, and that's every bit as important as being able to develop them.

Success in this industry is more about exposure.online than it is about development.xyz

 

[scithe]

I kind of feel like we're all in a big pyramid scheme and eventually it will crumble.

Why would anyone pay millions of dollars for a .com when there's hundreds of extensions to register in? You could use that money to advertise and a variety of other things.

You really just need to show up in the top spot in a Google search. If you're an ecommerce business, your Facebook ads can take buyers to any extension. Capture return customers with e-mails that link to your .whatever website. If you've got an app, you just need to be in the Google Play store and Apple store and your app can link to your .whatever website too.

That said, I'm still here helping with the pyramid and hoping to profit some before it all crashes down.

 

[bmugford]

I kind of feel like we're all in a big pyramid scheme and eventually it will crumble.

Why would anyone pay millions of dollars for a .com when there's hundreds of extensions to register in? You could use that money to advertise and a variety of other things.

You really just need to show up in the top spot in a Google search. If you're an ecommerce business, your Facebook ads can take buyers to any extension. Capture return customers with e-mails that link to your .whatever website. If you've got an app, you just need to be in the Google Play store and Apple store and your app can link to your .whatever website too.

That said, I'm still here helping with the pyramid and hoping to profit some before it all crashes down.

.COM has been around for 35 years, is used by almost every major company, and trillions are spent marketing companies that use .COM.

It is far and away the most used and credible extension. It is not a pyramid scheme. LOL.

Brad

 

[scithe]

I definitely don't want to be lumped in with the crazy guys that are always claiming .com is dead. My portfolio is still primarily .com names.

I get that .coms are the most widely used and that's the only reason that more money is spent advertising those domains over any other.

Also, didn't say that .coms were a pyramid scheme. I feel like domaining in general is similar to one. Or perhaps you remember the old dollar scam, where you used to mail 5 people a dollar and then add your name to the list, then people would send you dollars. It could never work because eventually you run out of people. Pre-Internet, you were offered lists of names/addresses to buy so that you could reach out to those people with hopes of getting dollars in the mail. The people selling those lists were the ones making the money.

When I see names being swapped around here and on other auction sites, I feel like we're all similar to those guys hoping to get dollars. And the registrars are like the people selling those lists.

 

[Robin A.]

It's credible. People want dot coms for their business. But who can afford 1 word dot coms IF they are available? That's why prices went up for .co, .io etc. domains.

 

[ThatNameGuy]

I definitely don't want to be lumped in with the crazy guys that are always claiming .com is dead. My portfolio is still primarily .com names.

I get that .coms are the most widely used and that's the only reason that more money is spent advertising those domains over any other.

Also, didn't say that .coms were a pyramid scheme. I feel like domaining in general is similar to one. Or perhaps you remember the old dollar scam, where you used to mail 5 people a dollar and then add your name to the list, then people would send you dollars. It could never work because eventually you run out of people. Pre-Internet, you were offered lists of names/addresses to buy so that you could reach out to those people with hopes of getting dollars in the mail. The people selling those lists were the ones making the money.

When I see names being swapped around here and on other auction sites, I feel like we're all similar to those guys hoping to get dollars. And the registrars are like the people selling those lists.

scithe aka Nicholas, generally before I respond to anyone here on NP i check out their "information" link to see if they're willing to share anything about themselves instead of being anonymous

I get your analogy comparing domaining to a "pyramid scheme" and appreciate your clarification. I think of it more as a JOKE that creates opportunities for some of us. It wasn't too long ago that Verisign (the .com monopoly) inadvertently told domainers just how big a joke this industry really is.

I see too from your info page that you're into coins While Coins.com, Coins.xyz and Coins.online are all taken, Nameworth values Coins.com at 6 Million dollars and they don't even appraise/value the .xyz or .online when in affect they're technically the exact same thing....do you see the JOKE?

Finally, realizing the opportunity the big joke provides, i just purchased a few "coin" related domains like CoinConference.oxxxxx, CoinCon.oxxxxx, and CoinAppraisal.oxxxxx to give/gift to you if you were to develop them. They cost me just .99 cents a piece, and that should make anyone reading this wonder about the potential risk vs. reward when investing in domains

Thanks Nicholas....nice meeting you and enjoy your life in sunny Florida!

 

[scithe]

Thanks for the support. I was about to say maybe equating what we're all doing to a pyramid scheme was unfair and perhaps "house of cards" would be better. Just out of curiosity I peruse the wikipedia page for house of cards and I get... "A house of cards (also known as a card tower or a card castle) is a structure created by stacking playing cards on top of each other, often in the shape of a pyramid." Hah!

I do believe that for those of us that are at all tech savvy, having a .com is a big deal. I'm planning to go to Savannah, Georgia soon and my wife and I are planning to take a ghost tour with some friends. I joked because the company uses an AOL e-mail address.

I've seen small businesses and self-employed people using subdomains on Wix websites and that seems unprofessional to me.

I've never really heard my less savvy friends complain about things like that though.

The other day I was driving through St. Petersburg, FL and I saw a sign outside of a landscaping business with the address Allseasons.Name and I thought, "there's gotta be a better TLD for them than that (Allseasons is taken in 93 extensions) but I think if the average person can figure out how to type in .com or .net, they can manage .name.

 

[wakguano]

People dont type facebook.com, they search for it and click. Typing facebook.com directly takes too long

 

[scithe]

I agree. So NextBigThing could totally be in .monster or some other random extension.

 

[NftDom]

I agree. So NextBigThing could totally be in .monster or some other random extension.

Absolutely!

 

[MapleDots]

I was following this topic for a while and noticed the Domain King owned DomainKing.xyz so even he deemed it important enough to protect his brand in .xyz

I also notice he does not own DomainKing.online so that tells you right away how he feels about the two extensions.

I know he runs a few .tv sites but the fact that he owns some .xyz does give some credence to the extension.

 

[ThatNameGuy]

I was following this topic for a while and noticed the Domain King owned DomainKing.xyz so even he deemed it important enough to protect his brand in .xyz

I also notice he does not own DomainKing.online so that tells you right away how he feels about the two extensions.

I know he runs a few .tv sites but the fact that he owns some .xyz does give some credence to the extension.

lol,,,who cares what the Domain King does? MapleDots.online has 10x the cred that MapleDots.xyz has.
Check the stats at ntldstats.com where you'll find that .online is on fire

 

[Windoms]

@ThatNameGuy .world feels nicer than .online.
.online .company is really bad btw

 

[ThatNameGuy]

@ThatNameGuy .world feels nicer than .online.
.online .company is really bad btw

lol....that's your opinion and you know what they say about opinions

 

[bmugford]

Check the stats at ntldstats.com where you'll find that .online is on fire

.Online reported sales in the last month...

2 Total Sales
$409 Dollar Volume

 

[ThatNameGuy]

.Online reported sales in the last month...

2 Total Sales
$409 Dollar Volume

lol Mugford and friends. Namebio is one of my resources too, but there's a HUGE difference between so called reported sales of .xyz and .online. As a former licensed private investigator, i've been researching (one might say investigating) the reported sales by DNGear from the last year. Very few of the .xyz sales actually lead to a legitimate website/business.....you can check for yourself. As for .online, I've yet to start my sales campaign but when I ask potential "end users" and peers, if you were to start a business "online" and the .com wasn't available, would you choose Booking.online or Booking.xyz? Don't believe me Brad, overwhelmingly they chose Booking.online...try it yourself Brad, record the results and share it with us.

Good Luck☺

 

[ThatNameGuy]

Thanks for the support. I was about to say maybe equating what we're all doing to a pyramid scheme was unfair and perhaps "house of cards" would be better. Just out of curiosity I peruse the wikipedia page for house of cards and I get... "A house of cards (also known as a card tower or a card castle) is a structure created by stacking playing cards on top of each other, often in the shape of a pyramid." Hah!

I do believe that for those of us that are at all tech savvy, having a .com is a big deal. I'm planning to go to Savannah, Georgia soon and my wife and I are planning to take a ghost tour with some friends. I joked because the company uses an AOL e-mail address.

I've seen small businesses and self-employed people using subdomains on Wix websites and that seems unprofessional to me.

I've never really heard my less savvy friends complain about things like that though.

The other day I was driving through St. Petersburg, FL and I saw a sign outside of a landscaping business with the address Allseasons.Name and I thought, "there's gotta be a better TLD for them than that (Allseasons is taken in 93 extensions) but I think if the average person can figure out how to type in .com or .net, they can manage .name.

Sorry i hadn't gotten back to you Nicholas....i've been busy looking for Ghost Tours Online but have yet to find one. You'll enjoy the Savannah tour....my wife and I went on it 30 years ago.

Also, i've been meaning to reach out to you but haven't had time. Take care and maybe we can help each other, My Mantra; "Make Something Happen"☺