Jack Domainer VS common sense. A tale about .xyz sales

[alienbaba]

The whole Swetha witch-hunt which is fueled by this Jack character is just pure nonsense and shouldn't be entertained anymore..

Jack Domainer is clearly lacking in both common sense and the ability to research. He keeps making threads littering namepros with nonsense lol, and surprisingly a lot of people listen to him..

He is unable to research & is a troll that should be ignored. He posts schizophrenic claims that can be easily debunked by anyone with a working brain and Google..

I'm posting this to show @jackdomainer how to do research because in this twitter thread, he shows he doesn't know what research means..

Regarding Swetha selling sino.xyz for over $100k and Shane selling boba.xyz for $14k, he claimed both have no meaning.. something a 5 second Google would have disproven. Sino literally means "china" and boba is a popular tea in china.. Just read through the thread to get some insight on his thinking capacity..

https://twitter.com/x/status/1917189234085044241

Below is copied from another post I made 2 years ago that debunks his claims..

Few years ago, Jack and Mike Mann and were calling Swetha fake then she reported the sale of conduit.xyz for $69,888 which they were all laughing about and saying "who would buy this random word in xyz for $69,888? Fake".

The site didn't get developed for over 3 months. But again undeveloped doesn't mean fake sale. Well here is the buyer.

Name: Andrew Huang
Twitter: https://twitter.com/KAndrewHuang
Company: Conduit.xyz
Funding amount: $7 million
Crunchbase: https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/conduit-169e
News Article: https://www.binance.com/en/feed/post/356854

Checkmate Mike Mann.

Hopefully after reading below and getting checkmate 53 more times, you will be able to think for yourself and make a more sensible conclusions based on evidence, not the voice in your head. I'm reposting the below info from my reply on another thread. Let's debate..

If you think you can debunk me, feel free to try. I operate based on good research, verifiable facts not schizo theories that people pull out of their asses and "I can't believe it so it's not true" or "I think xyz is ugly or stupid or spam so it can't sell for much" false logic arguments..

The people saying blahblah.xyz only sold for $xxx at namescon so all xyz sales are fake, need to go back logic school..her main audience isn't at namescon and they don't buy the same types of names that sell in .com..

PART 1 -

Out of Swethas reported sales which are less than 150, I have shown evidence of 54 verifiable end users. There are more but I got bored so stopped at 54 which is enough to make my point..

Many aren't developed, some still point to Dan Landers. Does that mean it was fake? I have about 8 .coms I sold on Dan, which still have the Dan Landers since as far back as 2019. All I'm going to say is I really enjoyed spending the fake money Dan sent to my bank for my fake sales..


Anyway regarding the end users who bought Swetha's xyz domains, you can check for yourself. Not all are on Crunchbase, but if you are involved in crypto/web3/nft space you'd have heard of them..

Not all are funded startups. Some were bought by individuals who made money during the bullrun or already rich & they use it as personal project sites..

The ones on crunchbase as you can see have either raised millions of dollars or are venture funds themselves that provide capital for startups..

If a site isn't developed. Doesn't mean it's a fake sale. That's just bad logic. Even Mike Mann who uses the not developed angle to attack Swetha has a history of his 5 figure reported .coms not resolving.

Besides I've been tracking some of these names and they were undeveloped for over 1 year before finally getting built..



Let's begin

1- Spiral.xyz sold for $24888. Sold to twitter..while Jack Dorsey was twitter CEO. He also owns block.xyz and uses .xyz for his other projects such as the twitter rival BLUESKYWEB.XYZ | https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/spiral-c63e

2- Paramount.xyz sold for $45000. Paramount Pictures is a global media company, owned by viacom with a net worth of $14 billion. | https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/paramount-pictures

3- Stratos.xyz sold for $9888. An investment firm that singlehandedly funded a company called REZI $100 million in November. | https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/stratos-3388

4- Mesh.xyz sold for $9888. Created by founders of of Ethereum blockchain (Consensys). Funded $729 million. | https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/consensus-systems

5- Dragonfly.xyz sold for $19888. Run by some big players like Haseeb Qureshi (renown poker player, ex dev at airbnb), Tom Schmidt (ex facebook), Rob Hadick (ex golden tree, goldman sachs). | https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/dragonfly-capital-partners-eed4

6- Alliance.xyz sold for $50000. Raised $250,000 but they're a venture capital firm that frequently funds companies millions along with other VCs.| https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/defi-alliance

7- Fractional.xyz sold for $14888. Parent company/rebrand raised $43.9 million. | https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/fractional-9225

8- Skiff.xyz sold for $2995. Raised $10.5 million. | https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/skiff-402f

9- Decent.xyz sold for $7888. Raised undisclosed amount from OrangeDAO.xyz. OrangeDAO was funded $80 million. | https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/orange-fund | https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/decent-xyz

10- Highlight.xyz sold for $7888. Raised $11 million. | https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/sea-ranch-labs

11- Arcade.xyz sold for $25500. Raised $17.8 million | https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/arcade-1e53

12- Tiptop.xyz sold for $15000. Raised $23 million | https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/tiptop

13- Matcha.xyz (I can't find how much it sold for but I think it was reported by @DNGear . Likely 4-5 figures) . Project by 0x.org. 0x raised $109 million| https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/0x-project

14- Daylight.xyz sold for $14888 & resolves. Raised $3 million| https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/daylight-039f

15- Siren.xyz sold for $22310. Raised $5.2 million| https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/siren-acf2

16- Stir.xyz sold for $39888. Redirects to usestir.com. Raised $20 million | https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/stir-money

17- Primitive.xyz sold for $39888. Raised $12 million. | https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/primitive-89c6

18- Flip.xyz sold for $27888. Raised $6.5 million | https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/flip-ef7e

19- Destiny.xyz sold for $8895. They also own d.xyz. Raised $5 million. | https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/destiny-4736

20- Runway.xyz sold for $19888. Redirects to runway.com. Raised $4.5 million | https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/runway-financial

21- Embed.xyz sold for $14888. Raised $4.5 million | https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/embed-9c37

22- Covalent.xyz sold for $4995. Parent company Agnostiq raised $2.8 million | https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/agnostiq

23- Davos.xyz sold for $19888. Raised $500k from Polygon Ventures & undisclosed amount from 0xbeacon| https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/davos-protocol

24- Cheq.xyz sold for $2995. Raised $2 million. | https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/cheq-6953

25- Soteria.xyz sold for $4000. Parent company is bridgewest group/ventures based in New Zealand who manage around $4 billion in capital | https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/bridgewest-group

26- Ryan.xyz sold for $5888. Bought by Ryan Junee. Founder of Parsable which got $132 million in funding + Omnisio which Google acquired| https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/parsable

27- Tribes.xyz sold for $4995. Raised $3.3 million | https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/tribes-protocol

28- UpShot.xyz sold for $3995. Raised $30.5 million | https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/upshot-d781

29- OffBeat.xyz sold for $8988. Raised undisclosed amount, but investors include Mark Cuban & Atlanta Ventures. Check their LinkedIN profile for more info on the founders| https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/offbeat-media-group

30- Zapper.xyz sold for $7888. Raised $17 million. | https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/defizap

31- Dune.xyz sold for $4995. Raised $79.4 million | https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/dune-analytics

32- Talisman.xyz sold for $4995. Raised $2.5 million | https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/talisman-750e

33- Continuum.xyz sold for $6495. Raised $2 million | https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/continuumxyz

34- Hyperspace.xyz sold for $4995. Raised $4.5 million | https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/solanalysis

35- Pager.xyz (I can't find how much it sold for but I think it was reported by @DNGear . Likely 4-5 figures). Raised $7.9 million | https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/pager-c832

36- Flare.xyz sold for $2000. Raised $11.3 million | https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/flare-networks-417a

37- Frontier.xyz sold for $9888. Raised $1.9 million | https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/frontier-wallet

38- Pallet.xyz sold for $4888. Redirects to Pallet.com. Raised $4.9 million | https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/cardea-e310

39- Islands.xyz sold for $3495. Raised $3.5 million | https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/islands-1881

40- Props.xyz sold for $7888. Raised $27 million | https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/props-6624

41- Objects.xyz sold for $6000. Bought by Jason Toff founder of things.inc. He used to work at Google & Meta. He owns rooms.xyz too. | https://www.crunchbase.com/person/jason-toff

42- Manifold.xyz sold for $3000. One of the biggest NFT marketplaces. Raised undisclosed amount from Christies Inc. Likely a high 7 figure to low 8 figure seed funding round| https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/manifold-4ccd

43- Futureproof.xyz sold for $4500. Team behind the Wagmi United NFT which bought a football team in England (Crawley Town FC) for like $3 million & collaborated with Adidas for a merch drop.

44- Clubhouse.xyz sold for $4995. Bought by the clubhouse audio social media platform. Raised $110 million | https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/clubhouse-voice

45- Chia.xyz sold for $3995. Bought by Kevin Rose founder of DIGG & Moonbirds NFT (moonbirds.xyz + proof.xyz). | https://www.crunchbase.com/person/kevin-rose

46- Entropy.xyz sold for $6500. Raised $27 million. | https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/entropy-5d14

47- Heyday.xyz sold for $3000. Raised $6.5 million. | https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/heyday-d38f

48- Patron.xyz sold for $9888. Investment firm that frequently funds million dollar seed rounds. | https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/patron-9285

49- Squid.xyz sold for $34888.| Squid DAO is one of the most popular DAO's in the ETH space.

50- Ante.xyz sold for $19888.| Popular & active ETH protocol

51- Fragment.xyz sold for $5300. Bought by team behind applied primate NFT. Very active within the NFT space & own multiple bored apes. | https://twitter.com/fragmentxyz

52- Shiv.xyz. (I can't find the sales price but probably low/mid 4 figures). Bought by Shiv Madan, founder of NFT.org & Moonwalk.com | https://www.crunchbase.com/person/shiv-madan

53- Plasticity.xyz sold for $2995. Bought by Nick Kallen an experienced software engineer who worked at Twitter. | https://twitter.com/nk


PART 2..

The thing is for the assertion that it's a wash to even remotely not sound stupid, you'd have to claim that multi billion dollar companies like Twitter, Paramount Pictures, Yugalabs, Paradigm and others are involved in what you describe above.. because as evidenced by my research above, they have all bought some of Swethas names..


Most of the other end users that have developed their sites are crypto/web3/NFT companies, that recently got millions in funding which is verified by crunchbase..

If a company raises millions is it far fetched that they can afford a 5 figure .xyz domain? Simply Google each of her sales + Crunchbase & you'll find the end users..


If negari is remotely involved in "faking" the above sales, the only possible way that doesn't involve witchcraft would be that the parent company of Crunchbase which is Techcrunch/Yahoo which are global corporations worth billions have all come together to report fake news so a few thousand irrelevant domainers will buy a few million dollars of Daniel Negari's xyz domains for $1 each. What a good business plan..

I am just showing data to help you identify a market trend of companies within a certain niche that got funded millions by venture capital firms, spending less than 0.5% of their budget on a domain..

Unless you want to claim that Crunchbase/Yahoo are actually working with the xyz registry to fake these funding rounds & these million dollar companies are actually either non existent or too poor to spend $10k on a domain that they are currently using on live sites which their social profiles link to..

Because that is the only possible angle remaining since these claims of fake sales have been debunked on all other fronts..

 

[enterscope]

Have you personally talked to Swetha or met her in person? If not, why are so invested in defending her?

 

[alienbaba]

Have you personally talked to Swetha or met her in person? If not, why are so invested in defending her?

I'm not invested defending her lmao. The sales data based on my research shows real buyers verified by crunchbase..

Now I assume you don't think she's real. But let's imagine she is. She could have kept quiet and dominated the xyz market, but she chose to share and help others, while being insulted, defamed and bullied by someone who can't research, but makes their bs claims go viral because clearly people don't know how to research and rather jump on the bandwagon..

My focus is not on defending her. I just have a lot of time on my hands and like researching properly and writing, so I won't say that is me being invested..

I'm not the one writing daily tweets about Swetha and making a fool of myself when every claim I make can be debunked a.k.a Jack. I've literally spent maximum 2 hours writing about Swetha and each of these end users literally took me minutes to find and connect the dots..

He's spent 3 years. My research shows that the claims made by him are pure nonsense. The person invested/obsessed is Jack and I've clearly shown his theories have zero ground in reality.. so maybe ask him why he's invested?

If you choose to blindly listen to him, that's on you for choosing to base your thoughts on a weak baseless argument. If you choose to research, you'll come to the same conclusion that I have..

It literally takes seconds to Google the names in question, find the buyers on twitter, linkedin, crunchbase etc. But I doubt you did that. If you did, you wouldn't be posting conspiracy theories about a fake Indian woman boogeyman who is trying to defraud investors to buy her xyz names..

And funny enough your evidence is a video interview, rather than real verified companies. On what planet does that make logical sense when let's say Swetha isn't actually real you'd believe a video which could both be AI or a random person but not crunchbase which verifies companies. Such logic..

Let me give you a hint on what made .xyz popular. Google using ABC.xyz for their parent company, Twitter founder using block.xyz, spiral.xyz which he bought from Swetha. Maybe Swetha actually controls Google and Jack Dorsey. Illuminati confirmed..

That's my main point..

 

[enterscope]

I'm not invested defending her lmao. The sales data based on my research shows real buyers verified by crunchbase..

Now I assume you don't think she's real. But let's imagine she is. She could have kept quiet and dominated the xyz market, but she chose to share and help others, while being insulted, defamed and bullied by someone who can't research, but makes their bs claims go viral because clearly people don't know how to research and rather jump on the bandwagon..

My focus is not on defending her. I just have a lot of time on my hands and like researching properly and writing, so I won't say that is me being invested..

I'm not the one writing daily tweets about Swetha and making a fool of myself when every claim I make can be debunked a.k.a Jack. I've literally spent maximum 2 hours writing about Swetha and each of these end users literally took me minutes to find and connect the dots..

He's spent 3 years. My research shows that the claims made by him are pure nonsense. The person invested/obsessed is Jack and I've clearly shown his theories have zero ground in reality.. so maybe ask him why he's invested?

If you choose to blindly listen to him, that's on you for choosing to base your thoughts on a weak baseless argument. If you choose to research, you'll come to the same conclusion that I have..

It literally takes seconds to Google the names in question, find the buyers on twitter, linkedin, crunchbase etc. But I doubt you did that. If you did, you wouldn't be posting conspiracy theories about a fake Indian woman boogeyman who is trying to defraud investors to buy her xyz names..

Let me give you a hint on what made .xyz popular. Google using ABC.xyz for their parent company, Twitter founder using block.xyz, spiral.xyz which he bought from Swetha. Maybe Swetha actually controls Google. Illuminati confirmed..

That's my main point..

I'm guessing you haven't met her or talked to her then...

Very suspicious.

 

[alienbaba]

I'm guessing you haven't met her or talked to her then...

Very suspicious.

Swetha is the most investigated Domainer to ever exist and guess what the strange thing is? Each time there's scrutiny and she gets bullied to post info, the evidence gets stronger that her sales are real..

Just her sale of spiral.xyz to Jack Dorsey alone has more evidence than 99% of sales posted on namepros including yours. Now add the others I posted with crunchbase verified companies..

Have you ever posted a sale on namepros? Have you ever met anyone in the Report sales thread? Why should I believe your sales? Where's your video interview?

Very suspicious..

 

[enterscope]

You sure do talk a lot about someone that you have never met or even talked to on the phone. I don't care if the sales are "real" or not. There is still no proof that Swetha is a real person. Not a single domainer has met or talked to her, and there's people like you writing pages upon pages in her defense, why?

It would be one thing if you actually knew her, but why are you so adamant that Swetha and her sales are real?

Swetha is not a one off, this is someone that the industry claims is the #1 seller of .xyz domainers.

 

[alcy]

while nobody should really care what others do. and certaily not call it fake or real without 100p conclusive proof... it is valid to say that whether thia is fake or real will or can impact the business of others involved in xyz sales.. and also tho much less so the overall biz of all domains.

positively if true.
negatively if fake.

I think these are the only conclusions or points to draw from all this

 

[JB Lions]

It would be one thing if you actually knew her, but why are you so adamant that Swetha and her sales are real?

Sales are real, that’s documented. Plus, many have been developed.

So what’s left is she’s either real or fake, people thinking it’s really Negari:

Let’s say she’s proven to be a real person. Then those that doubt would say ok she’s real but Negari is paying her.

If she’s fake and it’s someone Negari made up, somehow he suddenly became real smart, smarter than everybody going at her since nobody has proven this is all fake. This is a guy who has been busted already on various things from what I’ve read. And I’ve seen him speak before, he didn’t come across as too bright to me. But now he’s a genius pulling a con on everybody for years?

And some other person has 3 of top 7 sales, not her, and other top domainers getting sales as well. But sales and development are real. If you believe it’s not Swetha and it’s actually registrar/Negari getting those sales, they’re still sales. I get it that those that doubt say sales coming from a “common person” would spur others to buy .xyz domains

Just in general, people throwing around accusations of fraud or being fake without any actual proof/knowing for sure is just weak and sloppy. If there was actual proof, I would support airing out frauds. So far that hasn’t happened here. You have people going at her complaining that people are defending her, when it’s just basically people saying, put up or shut up. At the end of the day there is no actual proof of wrongdoing and you could be slandering an innocent person.

 

[alienbaba]

You sure do talk a lot about someone that you have never met or even talked to on the phone. I don't care if the sales are "real" or not. There is still no proof that Swetha is a real person. Not a single domainer has met or talked to her, and there's people like you writing pages upon pages in her defense, why?

It would be one thing if you actually knew her, but why are you so adamant that Swetha and her sales are real?

Swetha is not a one off, this is someone that the industry claims is the #1 seller of .xyz domainers.

It's funny that you have displayed on this thread your inability to both read or use a logical argument. Keep posting replies so we can see the inner workings of your brain. Pure comedy..

I post research and logical arguments showing real verified companies using xyz domains she sold. Your response argument is to ignore that and ask for a selfie and voice note to prove she's real and ask if I've met her..

Now I understand how those prince with 1 billion dollars emails are successful. All you needed was a selfie and voice note to believe and send them your bank details. So smart. So logical..

 

[dirk]

I really dunno how you guys find the time to get involved in threads like this...

Bottom line, nobody besides some domainers who hold a grudge are interested.

That's like 0.000001% of domainers.

Nothing to see, carry on.

 

[stevegpan]

No one met her, no one talked to her.... If anyone believed her and loaded those .xyz domains, he/she may have lost money.... So I do not think Swetha helped in domain industry or helped any domainers.

Overall, Swetha's contribution to the domain industry may be negative .... just my opinion

 

[bmugford]

Sales are real, that’s documented. Plus, many have been developed.

So what’s left is she’s either real or fake, people thinking it’s really Negari:

Let’s say she’s proven to be a real person. Then those that doubt would say ok she’s real but Negari is paying her.

If she’s fake and it’s someone Negari made up, somehow he suddenly became real smart, smarter than everybody going at her since nobody has proven this is all fake. This is a guy who has been busted already on various things from what I’ve read. And I’ve seen him speak before, he didn’t come across as too bright to me. But now he’s a genius pulling a con on everybody for years?

I am not really a fan of Daniel Negari and the .XYZ registry.

He has been involved in some questionable stuff in my view, outside and inside the domain field.

.XYZ got off to a pretty bad start with the domain stuffing fiasco at Network Solutions.

They registered and put .XYZ domains in people's accounts, without permission. The penny regs, etc.

All it did was inflate registrations, to show false demand.

However, the thing is I have not seen any evidence of a connection between him and Swetha at all.

Brad

 

[phaethon]

Fraud or not, the point is there is no future for XYZ, as the best single worlds or all the singles words are taken or have premium renewals . Two word domains are highly unlikely..
No future really, it's dead investment wise, let's move on..
Buying XYZs hoping some crypto company might pay xxxxx is recipe for disaster..

 

[Bob Hawkes]

I wanted to thank you @alienbaba for all of the work that went into assembling the impressive list of sales with funding raised/buyer/use. It provides useful insights for anyone who invests in .xyz, or considers doing so. As various people have said, what sells in .xyz is not simply what would have highest value in .com.

Just as in all extensions, it is totally natural that some domain names will not get developed, and some will, after use or no use, end up for sale again. Many ventures don't get off the ground, or if they do don't pan out. Happens every day in all extensions.

The .xyz extension is chosen by some in crypto, NFTs, decentralized ventures, collaborative projects, seed fund investment, etc. Those sectors are probably more volatile than business in general, so it would not be surprising if there was a lower level of development in .xyz.

In many of the analyses that I do I look at percentage developed, for sale again, etc. In early 2022 I did an analysis 12 Months of XYZ Sales: A Look At The Data for 12 months of .xyz sales data (this is data from 2021 and early 2022).

For .xyz NameBio listed sales $20,000 and up, I found 46% developed and 4% for sale again. For all sales $1000 and up, about 27% developed (not including redirections) and 14% for sale again. I have done this for many types of sales and extensions. The percentages developed and for sale again for .xyz are well within the range of what I usually find for other extensions and sectors. Keep in mind that this is data from 2021-early 2022 .xyz sales surge, but I would expect the picture more recently not much different.

I have hesitated to comment on the threads started by J-D, since any post, even those completely against everything he has posted, helps to elevate attention to his post. It is a paradox that the discussions that many argue against, are the ones that the algorithm highlight as 'hot'.

It highly disappoints to me that a few senior members of the domain community, who should see through the "data" and "arguments" and "what ifs" presented by J-D, have instead chosen to amplify that message. I politely and respectfully ask them to take a second look.

Anyone can dislike an extension, or strongly prefer another extension. Totally 100% how it should be. Only invest in what you believe in, and always DYOR. But we must not let our opinions cause us to spread information that is selectively biased or invokes 'maybe this could be true' arguments. We need to be better than that.

There is always a chance to make new choices. To those who have pushed, or amplified, this conspiracy for years, please take a few hours, step back, and take a fresh look, calmly and logically.

Thanks again to @alienbaba for a post that has deservedly zoomed to be the community favourite. I am encouraged that so many NamePros members have clearly and professionally spoken on this issue, with their comments and their reactions.

-Bob

 

[Bla2e]

I wanted to do this type of analysis for the .xyz domains (especially Shwetha's sales) myself. I did collect some data (a year old) but got too lazy to continue. I'll be honest, I had my share of suspicion but when I started seeing those .xyz domains being developed then it cleared the air that those sales were made to actual end users.

 

[Lox]

There is always a chance to make new choices. To those who have pushed, or amplified, this conspiracy for years, please take a few hours, step back, and take a fresh look, calmly and logically.

"Chance/s reducing the opportunity and that stop diligence from happening" ―

Historical data plays a fundamental role ... + can help identify gaps. Therefore, need to invest ($ &/or Time) in Research, 24/7 monitoring & Analytical tools is must ...it helps identify the difference between an organization's (end-user's) current and desired state (domain name acquisition). ....

Or Disney & Popcorn

Thx Bob

 

[bmugford]

I wanted to thank you @alienbaba for all of the work that went into assembling the impressive list of sales with funding raised/buyer/use. It provides useful insights for anyone who invests in .xyz, or considers doing so. As various people have said, what sells in .xyz is not simply what would have highest value in .com.

Just as in all extensions, it is totally natural that some domain names will not get developed, and some will, after use or no use, end up for sale again. Many ventures don't get off the ground, or if they do don't pan out. Happens every day in all extensions.

The .xyz extension is chosen by some in crypto, NFTs, decentralized ventures, collaborative projects, seed fund investment, etc. Those sectors are probably more volatile than business in general, so it would not be surprising if there was a lower level of development in .xyz.

In many of the analyses that I do I look at percentage developed, for sale again, etc. In early 2022 I did an analysis 12 Months of XYZ Sales: A Look At The Data for 12 months of .xyz sales data (this is data from 2021 and early 2022).

For .xyz NameBio listed sales $20,000 and up, I found 46% developed and 4% for sale again. For all sales $1000 and up, about 27% developed (not including redirections) and 14% for sale again. I have done this for many types of sales and extensions. The percentages developed and for sale again for .xyz are well within the range of what I usually find for other extensions and sectors. Keep in mind that this is data from 2021-early 2022 .xyz sales surge, but I would expect the picture more recently not much different.
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I have hesitated to comment on the threads started by J-D, since any post, even those completely against everything he has posted, helps to elevate attention to his post. It is a paradox that the discussions that many argue against, are the ones that the algorithm highlight as 'hot'.

It highly disappoints to me that a few senior members of the domain community, who should see through the "data" and "arguments" and "what ifs" presented by J-D, have instead chosen to amplify that message. I politely and respectfully ask them to take a second look.

Anyone can dislike an extension, or strongly prefer another extension. Totally 100% how it should be. Only invest in what you believe in, and always DYOR. But we must not let our opinions cause us to spread information that is selectively biased or invokes 'maybe this could be true' arguments. We need to be better than that.

There is always a chance to make new choices. To those who have pushed, or amplified, this conspiracy for years, please take a few hours, step back, and take a fresh look, calmly and logically.

Thanks again to @alienbaba for a post that has deservedly zoomed to be the community favourite. I am encouraged that so many NamePros members have clearly and professionally spoken on this issue, with their comments and their reactions.

-Bob

Some of Jack's comments don't really make the point he thinks they do.

For instance, a 0.3% STR.

If anything it would be more unbelievable if you were selling 2% of your .XYZ domains for high prices every year.

The STR is well below "normal", because it is not .COM and the prices are much higher.

STR is more reliable in a "normal" end user price range of like low to mid $X,XXX, especially with decent .COM.

There are only so many five and six figure buyers, regardless of domain.

Brad

 

[rokoroko]

Just an observation:
all alienbaba proves are related just to small sales, none in xxx.xxx range - these are the sales in suspicion.
The biggest lies are always mixed with truth to become truth.

 

[alienbaba]

Just an observation:
all alienbaba proves are related just to small sales, none in xxx.xxx range - these are the sales in suspicion.
The biggest lies are always mixed with truth to become truth.

I sense you trying to move goalposts and rewrite history..

The suspicion and accusations of fake sales & bullying happened a long time before Swetha reported her first 6 figure .xyz sale. Absolutely no one that claimed fake sales said the low ones are real and the big ones are fake. It was the frequency of sales including 4 & 5 figure sales that were disputed and created this conspiracy. Also it was a woman from india making the sales which has been deemed a heresy by certain domainers..

As I showed in the first part of my post, the $69000 sale of conduit.xyz by Swetha faced the same accusations but now we can see the buyer, so did other 5 figure sales, and the angle of attack at that point was that she was making multiple 5 figure sales at a high frequency..

From my knowledge, 6 figure sales Swetha has reported but there could be more-

bull.xyz (unresolving)
wrap.xyz (godaddy page)
sino.xyz (redirects to sino.com & whois shows contact as [email protected])

Bull & wrap are top words in crypto and it's very easy to see why someone would buy them. Bull market, wrapped bitcoin etc..5 minutes google search.. sino .xyz which was claimed by Jack & Mike Mann to be fake on the tweet I posted literally shows the whois contact.. 1 minute whois check..

Here are some 6 figure sales reported by Andrew Rosener -

magic.xyz (unresolving)
deep.xyz (for sale page)
atlas.xyz (developed)

Magic & deep are more generic & don't have a strong crypto reference. Well there was magiceden which was a big NFT platform. Deep could relate to AI more.. Could Andrew Rosener really be Daniel Negari wearing a halloween costume?

Here are some reported by Nikul/ hypernames -

bridge.xyz (developed & acquired by stripe for $1 billion)
nexus.xyz (developed)
quantum.xyz (godaddy page)

Bridge is a no brainer in crypto. Bridge from one blockchain to another etc.. Nexus & Quantum, I don't think I need to explain.. Could Nikul really be Daniel Negari in disguise?

Again, the common denominator is crypto companies buying the names I have shown.. except sino which offers residential, office, industrial, retail and hospitality properties across Hong Kong, mainland China, Singapore and Australia and are worth about $9 billion.

Like I said earlier, it's very, very, very simple to research. But it seems you have taken a path easier than doing the bare minimum of a 5 minute google search which is to ignore logic or analysis & claim "The biggest lies are always mixed with truth to become truth"..

 

[johnn]

Just hear from the mods that from now on if you want to create a thread that either .xyz or Swetha related you have to pay $50 for the insulting fees.