The official .mobi, .asia, .IDN sucks thread

[soggyindo]

The official .mobi/ .asia/ .me/ .TV sucks thread

It seems every good thread these days gets filled with .mobi/ .asia/ .IDN/ .TV/ .us, debates. So here's a thread we can have at it! We can also refer people here if things get heated.



I'll start with a neutral statement:

WTF is the point of .mobi?

 

[Idees]

:lol: Hilarious.....

I know of a medicine that could have helped Mr. Mobey when he was still alive. I've attached a photo.

 

[Keith]

The registration stats. Do the math.
FYI 10K+ mobi domains were dropped over the past month - the Junk Dump® has begun.

30 May

TLD	New	Removed	Transferred	Net Gain/Loss	Grace Period Domains	Total Domains
BIZ 	2,011	1,567	2,018	444	13,078	1,978,829
COM 	353,886	429,550	123,998	-75,664	1,872,288	77,142,148
INFO 	13,987	11,347	32,130	2,640	85,234	5,007,607
MOBI 	713	467	753	246	6,823	924,989
NET 	68,146	42,172	15,059	25,974	270,231	11,706,310
ORG 	7,218	4,550	9,368	2,668	47,612	6,903,389
US 	1,640	1,877	1,269	-237	8,661	1,383,244
Totals 	447,601	491,530	184,595	-43,929	2,303,927	105,046,516


										
30 June
						
TLD	New	Removed	Transferred	Net Gain/Loss	Grace Period Domains	Total Domains
BIZ 	4,084	2,108	1,980	1,976	16,432	1,976,962
COM 	489,529	465,888	138,096	23,641	2,055,347	76,448,199
INFO 	10,600	19,675	22,995	-9,075	57,862	4,997,283
MOBI 	997	495	1,676	502	5,812	911,523
NET 	72,305	37,488	22,625	34,817	219,013	11,508,131
ORG 	7,709	4,523	6,796	3,186	46,711	6,824,746
US 	1,236	1,026	1,354	210	7,264	1,377,912
Totals 	586,460	531,203	195,522	55,257	2,408,441	104,044,756

Source: http://www.registrarstats.com/Public/ZoneFileSurvey.aspx

So is .org a failure because 70k names have dropped in the last month?? Of course people regged some junk in the frenzy of the landrush and beyond. Does'nt junk get registered in every ext?

 

[Sam]

So is .org a failure because 70k names have dropped in the last month?? Of course people regged some junk in the frenzy of the landrush and beyond. Does'nt junk get registered in every ext?

Its about percentages, not numbers. Use common sense :zzz: im pretty sure these include drop and catch, or no?

 

[namewaiter]

The registration stats. Do the math.
FYI 10K+ mobi domains were dropped over the past month - the Junk Dump® has begun.

30 May

TLD	New	Removed	Transferred	Net Gain/Loss	Grace Period Domains	Total Domains
BIZ 	2,011	1,567	2,018	444	13,078	1,978,829
COM 	353,886	429,550	123,998	-75,664	1,872,288	77,142,148
INFO 	13,987	11,347	32,130	2,640	85,234	5,007,607
MOBI 	713	467	753	246	6,823	924,989
NET 	68,146	42,172	15,059	25,974	270,231	11,706,310
ORG 	7,218	4,550	9,368	2,668	47,612	6,903,389
US 	1,640	1,877	1,269	-237	8,661	1,383,244
Totals 	447,601	491,530	184,595	-43,929	2,303,927	105,046,516


										
30 June
						
TLD	New	Removed	Transferred	Net Gain/Loss	Grace Period Domains	Total Domains
BIZ 	4,084	2,108	1,980	1,976	16,432	1,976,962
COM 	489,529	465,888	138,096	23,641	2,055,347	76,448,199
INFO 	10,600	19,675	22,995	-9,075	57,862	4,997,283
MOBI 	997	495	1,676	502	5,812	911,523
NET 	72,305	37,488	22,625	34,817	219,013	11,508,131
ORG 	7,709	4,523	6,796	3,186	46,711	6,824,746
US 	1,236	1,026	1,354	210	7,264	1,377,912
Totals 	586,460	531,203	195,522	55,257	2,408,441	104,044,756

Source: http://www.registrarstats.com/Public/ZoneFileSurvey.aspx

Ok so since you got your dates switched around ... does that mean a 10K increase in registrations is a good thing????

 

[Keith]

Its about percentages, not numbers. Use common sense :zzz: im pretty sure these include drop and catch, or no?

Common sense tells me that .org has been around much longer than
mobi. Yet, it only has 6 million regs compared to mobis almost 1 million. At 70,000 drops a year it is not looking good for .org

 

[scandiman]

The registration stats. Do the math.
FYI 10K+ mobi domains were dropped over the past month - the Junk Dump® has begun.

:lol: yes, I fully believe a lot of junk is dropping, I used to joke about all the LookAtMyLame.mobi threads here. Where I think we differ is that I consider the junk to the left of the dot while I think you believe most anything with 'mobi' to the right of the dot is junk.

 

[jeremyp]

RECOMMENDATION:

Close this thread.

It goes against the positive vibe of NP, cannibalizes activity in some of your sub forums, and empowers some of those who have previously been banned from certain topics.

 

[Sam]

Common sense tells me that .org has been around much longer than
mobi. Yet, it only has 6 million regs compared to mobis almost 1 million. At 70,000 drops a year it is not looking good for .org

Clearly, you have forgot about something called domain tasting, which no one would bother to do with .mobi. Only 6 millioN? There is a HUGE plateau that is reached usually around 1 million names when people start running out of things to register.Thats when you know its end user friendly, hitting the multimillion stage.

 

[bricio]

as Sam said it is about percentage, so here they are

BIZ -> 1,867 (1,978,829) -> dropped about 0,1%

COM -> 693,949 (77,142,148)-> dropped about 0,9%

INFO -> 10,324 (5,007,607)-> dropped about 0,2%

MOBI -> 13,466 (924,989)-> dropped about 1,5%

NET -> 198,179 (11,706,310)-> dropped about 1,7%

ORG -> 78,643 (6,903,389)-> dropped about 1,15%

US -> 5,332 (1,383,244)-> dropped about 0,35%

 

[Sam]

Ok, you "win" for 2 months :lol: :lol: most of the registrations aren't even due up to renewal yet.

 

[raredn.com]

Just something for the .mobi guys to consider. I see some complain about this thread, the fact is the .mobi guys keep this thread up the top of namepros. If the .mobi guys stopped entering int the argument, this thread would get buried under pages of posts. The anti .mobi guys/ladies are not going to just post against .mobi among themselves it takes 'two to tango' (the .mobi guys need to take part in the argument). So seriously .mobi people if you don't like this thread, don't keep entering into the argument, unless you want this thread to get lots of attention. As mention anti .mobi guys are not just going to sit here 'arguing against' those barracking for 'the same team'. It takes two to tango

But then some say, any advertising is 'good advertising', is this why the .mobi people want this thread up the top all the time, by continuing to enter the debate you make it happen (you keep this thread up top)??? Just curious on anwers to that one

 

[bricio]

Ok, you "win" for 2 months :lol: :lol: most of the registrations aren't even due up to renewal yet.

:lol:

i did not mean to win or lose, Sam! :lol:

when i saw the numbers for the first time percentage came to my mind and when i read your post i had decided i would do it already

even if .mobi were the worst of all i would post the results but now you can see the real crap is .net and the gold is .biz... .com well it is not so good as we thought :lol: :lol: :lol:

serious now... we have to wait as you said to see what will happen with .mobi drops

 

[touchring]

IDN sucks, anyone who owns something like español.com, transfer to me, i'll pay you for your reg fees only (that's all) because IDN sucks. :D :D :D

 

[Kate]

Ok so since you got your dates switched around ... does that mean a 10K increase in registrations is a good thing????

You are correct, I have mixed dates, apologies

 

[Work In Progress]

It was a compliment my friend. . I envy anyone who can get into the top 10 for yahoo. I was saying as a top 10 in yahoo, makes much more sense to monetize it now and get great $$$.

I believe it has to be a low search term or your SEO is god cause I don't even see backlinks to your site (looks like a stand alone).

Compliment accepted

You say it makes sense to monetize now, but I don't agree. Short term gain, Yes...But I'm in this for the long haul. I'm helping to increase public awareness of the mobile web. The majority of my visitors at this time are PC visitors, but the mobile visitors climb each month. Many of these visitors have never been introduced to a mobi site. Thanks to Yahoo, they are now. Best news is, most return. I chose not to auto detect so my visitors see this "stranger than normal" looking site. I've also provided info as to why it looks "different".

As for backlinks you don't see...there are plenty out there. As pointed out before, many third party tracking stats don't catch all of the mobi traffic / backlinks, ext. First noticed this with Estibot. My most popular site went from a PR3 to a PR0 a couple of months ago. My awstats show over 360 backlinks. This site has been featured in many reviews, blogs and applications, yet still shows a PR 0? There are obviously issues that are still being worked on in tracking. It all takes time...and I'm willing to wait

 

[npcomplete]

IDN sucks, anyone who owns something like español.com, transfer to me, i'll pay you for your reg fees only (that's all) because IDN sucks. :D :D :D

Finally the voice of reason speaks up. I tried to stimulate IDN bashing earlier in the thread without luck. I really hate to see people get hurt dumping domains, and hate to see touch take this burden on himself, so I am willing to share in touch's offer.

If IDN has not caught on by now then it never will. Let's face it, the other 5 billion non-English speaking people have absolutely no interest in using domains in their own language. They have had this option for *years*, and still no market. Just a warning to "get out now" while you still can.

 

[VisionEdger]

I know its crazy as I bad mouth mobi at times but there has been some pretty decent sales on DNJ recently.

I see boats.mobi sold for $6000. I own Jetboats.mobi .Maybe a good omen for me on this one?

 

[GF]

I know its crazy as I bad mouth mobi at times but there has been some pretty decent sales on DNJ recently.

Tickets.mobi - $60,000 - April 1, 2008
Property.mobi - $26,000 - March 25, 2008
Own.mobi - $22,500 - February 12, 2008
Vegas.mobi - $20,000 - March 25, 2008
Shows.mobi - $20,000 - March 18, 2008

Porn.mobi - $110,000 - March 25, 2008
vs.
Porn.net - $400,000 - February 12, 2008

:imho: these are terrible sales. For the extension that is supposed to represent the "mobile web" these sales represent an extension that has met its death already.

A term like "porn" that sold for $9,500,000 in the .com version, sold for only $110,000 in .mobi?

For a business (mobile porn) that is supposed to generate $3.4 Billion by 2011 (http://news.zdnet.com/2100-1035_22-6138939.html) you would think that a huge name like this would have sold for a significant amount.

Adult entertainment companies know how to be profitable - and according to the article I referenced from zdnet.com, mobile porn generated appx. $1.4 Billion in 2006. Why haven't they seized the concept of the "mobey mobile web" if it's increasing in revenue on a yearly basis?

Numbers do not lie! The extension has breathed it's last breath :imho:

 

[scandiman]

Tickets.mobi - $60,000 - April 1, 2008
Property.mobi - $26,000 - March 25, 2008
Own.mobi - $22,500 - February 12, 2008
Vegas.mobi - $20,000 - March 25, 2008
Shows.mobi - $20,000 - March 18, 2008

Porn.mobi - $110,000 - March 25, 2008
vs.
Porn.net - $400,000 - February 12, 2008

:imho: these are terrible sales. For the extension that is supposed to represent the "mobile web" these sales represent an extension that has met its death already.

A term like "porn" that sold for $9,500,000 in the .com version, sold for only $110,000 in .mobi?

For a business (mobile porn) that is supposed to generate $3.4 Billion by 2011 (http://news.zdnet.com/2100-1035_22-6138939.html) you would think that a huge name like this would have sold for a significant amount.

Adult entertainment companies know how to be profitable - and according to the article I referenced from zdnet.com, mobile porn generated appx. $1.4 Billion in 2006. Why haven't they seized the concept of the "mobey mobile web" if it's increasing in revenue on a yearly basis?

Numbers do not lie! The extension has breathed it's last breath :imho:

Numbers don't lie but interpretations do. You're showing that a lot of deep pocketed domainers are not spending big bucks on .mobi in 2008. Doesn't concern me a bit.

Your opinion that .mobi is dead and has breathed its last breath doesn't make it so. Just more extremist ranting from the mobi haters peanut gallery :imho: Wow, prices dropped..run for cover the sky is falling.

 

[Jeff]

Numbers do not lie! The extension has breathed it's last breath :imho:

^ Agree. :gl: :imho:
And these are "sales" of undeveloped domains between domainers and Usual Suspects™, as well ... :red:

Stand-alone, unique and compelling developments for those that are "on the go" are not occurring and their development mandate is not being enforced - while literally 1,000's upon 1,000's of "reserved" domains still languish in the ownership of mTLD, IMHO. The RFP process - that would have ensured these developments - was abandoned in favor of immediate GREED MONEY! :o

Moreover, to this day, I have not seen even one reply or response by either mTLD or the few remaining "dot Mobey" enthusiasts that adequately addresses the mounting and deeply troubling QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS that have - no one can hide from this any longer! - crippled and strangled the extension! :imho:
Tick. Tock.

Just my two sense.
-Jeff

 

[cosmik debris]

Numbers don't lie but interpretations do. You're showing that a lot of deep pocketed domainers are not spending big bucks on .mobi in 2008. Doesn't concern me a bit.

Your opinion that .mobi is dead and has breathed its last breath doesn't make it so. Just more extremist ranting from the mobi haters peanut gallery :imho: Wow, prices dropped..run for cover the sky is falling.

Also.....Hey GF and Jeff ....... 2 wrongs don't make it right. :hehe:

 

[hawkeye]

^Just my two 'sense'.
-Jeff

Of which 'common' is not one, and two, 'something you have never made' any of!! _\|/_

And on your 'redundant copy and paste postings', you've been using for almost two years - A BIG - :td:

 

[Jeff]

^ As per usual, those closest with the faltering "dot Mobey" that feel the constant need to post public personal assaults are either unable or unwilling to address the lengthy list of questions and concerns that continue to plague and that have irreparably damaged their own credibility and that of mTLD, IMHO.
The personal attacks have backfired ... while the questions remain and the very real problems persist! :o :yell:
R.I.P.

-Jeff

 

[hawkeye]

^ As per usual, those closest with the faltering "dot Mobey" that feel the constant need to post ...:

Nawh, 'has nothing to do' with .mobi. It's just having to see your consistant, redundant, lying and unsubstantiated criticisms, that have no merit or proof, but which you consistantly post and make out to be fact as if you are the all knowing one here! Also your constant need to antagonize and berate those that are interested in .mobi and have invested in it, is so unprofessional and childish, that it just needs to be noted for all to see it for what it truely is, as you hide behind your 'Staff Emeritus' shield of impunity! That's all really.

 

[VisionEdger]

Well as far as other domainers interest in .mobi just go to the NP mobi marketplace & checkout the top viewed post. 1000 views , 24 resposes and 95% are from the original poster.

youch!