discuss Contacting Attorneys

[Cdomains]

I have a few legal domains I am considering doing outbound on.

Has anyone had any luck selling this type of domain, with outbound, to lawyers?

Also, do you think it is more risky contacting lawyers because of their profession?

I should mention all the domains I am talking about here are generic and not TM domains.

 

[Federer]

If you have good keyword .net/.com, you can move them in the $350-$3K via outbound. Most attorneys/lawyers have more than 1 domain/website.

One of my "legal domain" sales includes JonesActLawyer.net ($3,500 via outbound).

Just make sure your opening email contains a price so you are not wasting your/their valuable time.

 

[Cdomains]

If you have good keyword .net/.com, you can move them in the $350-$3K via outbound. Most attorneys/lawyers have more than 1 domain/website.

One of my "legal domain" sales includes JonesActLawyer.net ($3,500 via outbound).

Just make sure your opening email contains a price so you are not wasting your/their valuable time.

@Federer

Thanks, just the info I was looking for.

One more thing, do you think contacting lawyers is to be handled differently than other prospects because of their profession and the potential for them having a negative reaction to being bothered?

 

[Federer]

Makes no difference at all. They are to be treated the same as any other lead.

 

[platey]

I have a few legal domains I am considering doing outbound on.

Has anyone had any luck selling this type of domain, with outbound, to lawyers?

Also, do you think it is more risky contacting lawyers because of their profession?

I should mention all the domains I am talking about here are generic and not TM domains.

prefer owning them so they cant lol

{snakes and rats will never become friends} allegedly

 

[platey]

Yes, that is my main concern as their profession and mind set could make them more likely to react in a negative way to being contacted out of the blue.

So this is why I was looking for other NP member's experiences with this.

you could always possess the same mindset eg fees etc eg you could always think of a high figure quadruple it and add a few noughts on the end lol

i'm sure they can relate to that {allegedly}

 

[platey]

I have a bunch of very good, generic legal domains, but I've never tried to reach out to lawyers through outbound for them, hence the reason for this post, and the advice I seek.

i have a few decent legal domains too

i see domain name investing as pretty much fishing in as much as your domain is your bait etc the right buyer will find your domain if they want it and hours sitting on the bank equate to yearly renewals

with regard to my legal domains etc i'd prefer to keep them on the back burner etc as i'm in no hurry to sell and more than happy to sit on my good ones for some time

 

[platey]

Well the domains I am talking about are generic for example "divorce/attorney/com", which is not one of mine, but you get the point.

So, there are plenty of possible end users for domains like this, but because the end users are attorneys I have hesitated contacting them even though these are very targeted domains and would be the exact match to their business.

if you had that domain you refer to in this post for example all you do is renew it for the maximum amount of years possible and forget you own it and dont sell it for less than 7 figures minimum

 

[platey]

In this sense it's better, but overall DivorceAttorney sounds tons more solid than BostonDivorceAttorney.

And from simple business, marketing, and SEO point of view, if a divorce attorney from Boston takes a wise decision to invest in divorceattorney.com domain, it's very simple to implement geotargeting, so that all visitors from MA, plus all visitors who came from Boston or MA search queries, land on his business home page, and all other visitors land on a nice descriptive article of couple thousand words length about divorce law, and in the end of this article are served with Adsense ads or even affiliate offer leading them to a site of divorce attorney in his region, and this said smart attorney may get up to hundred bucks for each such lead.

i suppose its knowing your market etc

i own privacylawyer.co.uk which suits me as the market is and or will be big enough for me to turn down initial offers etc because eventually there will be 1000's of them but just one decent one with the .co.uk which has been the standard in that country

and as i bought it at reg fee there is profit in it all day long but i may extend its renewal for 10 years and forget i own it for 9 of them until its time to renew it etc

but with domains including legal domains etc there is only one thing more annoying than not being able to afford a good quality domain - and thats being able to afford a legal domain and the owner of it not wanting or needing to sell lol {grins}

 

[Ali]

Make sure they don't bill you per email you send them

 

[platey]

Make sure they don't bill you per email you send them

obviously that cost is added on to price of good quality legal domain etc {principles etc} allegedly

 

[Ali]

obviously that cost is added on to price of good quality legal domain etc {principles etc} allegedly

Herein after referred to as "principle", therefore regarding matters of confusing words added to conversations that twist allocations of allegations around so often that Seller (herein after referred to as "seller") believes he is now the buyer. Sign here, here, and here. Thank you.

 

[frank-germany]

the fact that you are asking tells you
that you can't tread them same way as others

when I started my selling career
my former boss told me
to never try to sell to a laywer

is it really worth your time and the potential trouble?

how much can you make from those domains if you are really doing well
compare that with the cost of only 1 trouble maker

and you have your answer

 

[platey]

Herein after referred to as "principle", therefore regarding matters of confusing words added to conversations that twist allocations of allegations around so often that Seller (herein after referred to as "seller") believes he is now the buyer. Sign here, here, and here. Thank you.

its no different to computers - in as much as back in the day not many could understand computer language so those fixing them charged a fortune - now pretty much anyone can fix them or knows someone that can

it wont be long before facebook ? google? or amazon? etc create an automated legal website thats free for anyone to use reference and research etc

 

[accent]

Contacting a business to sell them a name related to their business name (Common Law Trademark) is enough to lose the domain in a UDRP case for 'registered in bad faith'. I suspect the OP knows this, but others do not.

When feeding tigers one must remember that you yourself are also food.

I had a generic word in .Com. A law office started using another form of the generic word as their name - and advertising to the domain industry. I dropped the name for other reasons without contacting the lawyers.

 

[john_karr]

What about contacting a lawyer that represent a large corporation? I am not selling a legal dot com,but a generic domain name a company might be interested in.

 

[fm1234]

Cdomains

If you have good generics in the field, look for law firms and referral services that are already using generics and go after them. Alternately, look in a competitive geo market for firms that are not using generics, and point out local competitors who are.

Look specifically for firms that are spending money advertising online (SEMrush can give you a rough idea.) These firms either have a guy in the office who deals with that kind of thing, or are using an outside firm (to whom they might refer you.) Law firms are businesses, and as does any other type business they get peppered with calls, mails, walk-ins etc. from people who want to sell them stuff. Don't worry about "pissing off a law firm" via spam; worry about standing out from the other 57386584 people who contacted them this week trying to sell them everything from insurance to hand sanitiser for the lavatory.


Frank

 

[SBS66]

If you own a domain of that caliber, I think you should already be getting unsolicited offers from time to time. If you don't, either the name isn't that good, or it's possible that lawyers are not getting it. Then it's the wrong target group. Of course some industries are more difficult than others. We have to pick our niches carefully.

And my bet is on "..lawyers are not getting it."

 

[SBS66]

If you own legal domains, you are overthinking this one.

The first domain I sold (last month) was to a lawyer.

You can expect the following challenges:

1- privacy email, just like you may come across with any other potential end-user.
2- low counter, just like you may come across with any other outbound
3- no response, just like you would get with anyone else.

Simply comply with the CAN-SPAM act and you should be fine. And if you get a nasty email back, simply ignore it like you would one from anyone else.

I get pitched legal domains several times a month. Even before I decided to dedicate more time to this hobby, I wasn't ever offended by these pitches (people need to make a living, imo).

While I would admit that we have our share of "Arses", we're no different than any other arse.

 

[domainica]

Lawyers are a tough sell. And I think they have a hard time understanding how a keyword name can help their business (i.e., they may be a large, all-in-one firm representing a number of different specialties yet, instead of dividing those specialties under good keyword names like "mesotheliomaattorney.com" and "actoslawyer.com", they'll stick with the all-purpose partners' name of DeweyCheatemandHowe.com, figuring the prospective client will know what their specialties are).

Education is key, but I don't have the time and neither do they.

By the way, a long time ago I used to own MesotheliomaAttorney.com and ActosLawyer.com, before I sold them way, way cheap. It was easier back in the day.

I still own over 160 legal names but haven't marketed them in years, At this point, I figure if an attorney was looking for a good, keyword name, it won't be hard to find me. But first knowing that a good, keyword name is beneficial is the the trick.

 

[SBS66]

@domainica
There is a large online marketing firm that sells lead-generation sites to lawyers. They pick the names for these sites and won't let you use one of your own. Their main selling point is for you to create lead generation pages individually for each practice. Many lawyers understand that once they go through the selling presentation. But still ,the majority think that it is to show the prospect that they are BIG in many areas, thereby losing the ability to target their individual markets.

The newly-minted JDs, though, they get it.

 

[domainica]

@domainica
There is a large online marketing firm that sells lead-generation sites to lawyers. They pick the names for these sites and won't let you use one of your own. Their main selling point is for you to create lead generation pages individually for each practice. Many lawyers understand that once they go through the selling presentation. But still ,the majority think that it is to show the prospect that they are BIG in many areas, thereby losing the ability to target their individual markets.

The newly-minted JDs, though, they get it.

Good to know. Thanks. Do you think it would be better to target these marketing firms rather than law firms?

 

[SBS66]

Good to know. Thanks. Do you think it would be better to target these marketing firms rather than law firms?

I don't think these marketing firms would be it. For one thing some of them are huge, and getting to the right person would be a challenge. It may work if you find small marketing firms that deal with professionals (with lawyers obviously being one of the professions they target). But that could take a lot of time and not be worth it depending on the name you have.

I think there's a better change with targeting smallish law/solo firms directly. I don't even bother with large law firms; the problem with large firms is that you have to find the managing partner, and they often don't list who that is. But with smaller firms you usually know the main partner(s).

I've been toying with the idea of creating small lead sites for the lawyers and then marketing the site/name combo. Unfortunately, all that "free time" I don't have is getting in the way of that project.

 

[Mahogany]

Ive sold some Geo lawyer related domains in the past. nets and infos....

I sent them a letter via the US Postal service with priority. I wrote confidential on the big envelope in red ink. I included how many Google search results there were for that keyword domain name and his competitors on the 1st page of Google.

I also installed a lawyer WP theme on the domain to show him what it could look like.... I sold 4-5 domains a few years back this way and 2 of them paid me to redesign their website!

 

[tvanrijt]

Ive sold some Geo lawyer related domains in the past. nets and infos....

I sent them a letter via the US Postal service with priority. I wrote confidential on the big envelope in red ink. I included how many Google search results there were for that keyword domain name and his competitors on the 1st page of Google.

I also installed a lawyer WP theme on the domain to show him what it could look like.... I sold 4-5 domains a few years back this way and 2 of them paid me to redesign their website!

I like the creativity!

 

[fatter]

You reminded me why I gave up contacting lawyers years ago, I felt like I was on the witness standand convicted of murder. Here are a few questions they asked my Why does whois say client transfer prohibited,did you steal the name? How do I know you really own it? even though I said just call the phone listed in whois or shoot an email they didn't believe me.

A Lawyer, a missionary, and a priest went to heaven, at st Peters gate he took them to there new houses,
the Priest was dropped off at an old shack, the same with the missionary. St Peter brought the Lawyer to a beautiful Mansion up on a hill. The Lawyer asked why do I get such a nice place and they get to live in a dump. St Peter said, we have lots of priests and missionaries up here, but your our first Lawyer.