The USA Political Thread

[lennco]

Here you can spout your USA political views.

Rules:
1. Keep it clean
2. No fighting
3. Respect the views of others.
4. US Political views, No Religious views
5. Have fun

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[mr-x]

Perfect.

If Biden had actually assaulted anyone, why did that not come out in the intensive vetting he went through (and yes, he did) for two terms as VP?
And why is she bringing it up now? Nothing but positive things to say during those 8 years?

I’ve seen a lot of people in this thread criticize women harshly for coming forward years after an incident (Examples: Kavanaugh, trump) and strongly doubt their credibility, but when the shoe’s on your favorite foot all of a sudden she gets a pass?

Both of Dr Fraud's own witnesses said nothing happened. Her best friend denied it her story even after being threatened by Dr Fraud's lawyers.

Tara Reade has four people who said she told them what happened at the time it happened. Joe Biden refuses to release his Senate records.

What a fraud you are.

 

[mr-x]

Watched him on one of the morning "news" shows today. If I thought he had a chance and knew more about what he wants to do, maybe I'd take a serious look at him.

The only 2 things I got out of today's interview were:

1. He wants to provide everyone w/ $2k a month while this covid thing runs it's course and people are shut in.
2. He'll be the non-T-man alternative for Republicans that want to stay loyal to the party (as it is now sadly exists...) but don't want to hold their nose while casting their vote. (Now THERE is a selling point!)

I think he would pull more votes from Biden than Trump.

 

[mr-x]

GOP Florida Governor Rubs the Media’s Nose in It: He Didn’t Shut Down Entirely, and the State’s Fared Better Than Others
https://www.redstate.com/alexparker...orida-pandemic-not-shut-down-media-was-wrong/

TL;DR

Florida didn't fully lock down, better outcome than states managed by democrats.

“What have the results been? You look at some of the most draconian orders that have been issued in some of these states and compare Florida in terms of our hospitalizations per 100,000, in terms of our fatalities per 100,000. I mean, you go from D.C., Maryland, New Jersey, New York, Connecticut, Massachusetts, Michigan, Indiana, Ohio, Illinois, you name it. Florida’s done better.”

Ignorant fear mongers at MSNBC, CNBC not happy.

How the pro-Trump message machine is seizing on anti-lockdown fever

“At Miami fundraiser in 2019, Trump campaign manager Brad Parscale touted a plan to train "swarms of surrogates" to undermine news coverage across not just major national outlets but local newspapers and television stations as part of the president's re-election strategy,”

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“The pro-Trump influencers create a closed ecosystem of disinformation; one that is immune to fact-checking because its target audience is consistently getting the same message from multiple channels about, for example, Trump's response to the pandemic,” Goldman told ABC News. “But more importantly [the strategy] is to create a media environment in which nothing can be trusted. There are no expert sources, the media elites are lying to you, it's all a deep state conspiracy, etc.”

"If there's no objective truth except what you can find by 'doing your own research' there is little left but tribal loyalty," he said.


https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/pro-trump-message-machine-seizing-anti-lockdown-fever/story?id=70397244

Obama called them journalist not influencers.

 

[mr-x]

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No, he didn't say it was a cure, but he certainly implied/suggested it was or may be effective in the treatment of the coronavirus. You know, similar to his history of implying that he found evidence that Obama wasn't born in the US, or that he knows more about (insert topic here) than (insert appropriate experts here), or that he will release his taxes, or...

He said it might be, I don't know. Certainly worth checking. And in most cases but the most extreme, it was effective.

Yep! No false hopes being given there...

I guess if you hate the President, you could construe "but it’s their choice, and it’s their doctor’s choice or the doctors in the hospital." as false hope.

With great power comes great responsibility - The Peter Parker principle. Maybe while he is shut in, he and M should catch up on some movies.



Yet Lysol, Clorox, the Surgeon General, etc still felt the need to issue warnings. (You still haven't negated this.)



How intellectually dishonest and gullible do YOU have to be to fall for his crap day in and day out and then spew it back out?

Like Hydroxychloroquine has become a litmus test, so had injecting lysol. I guess you can get false hope from both if your a liberal journalist or retarded.

 

[mr-x]

just wanted to get this before mrx deleted it. Still reposting old articles.

So she's totes legit; flipping between denying her denial and trying to extort money from the President.

To bad her lawyer stole all her money. Who didn't see that coming?

 

[JB Lions]

So she's totes legit; flipping between denying her denial and trying to extort money from the President.

To bad her lawyer stole all her money. Who didn't see that coming?

This really isn't up for debate, a lot has happened since that old article you posted. Like audio of Trump/Cohen setting up shell companies to pay off women.

Not sure why you keep posting up old articles? This was the second time this week, you've done it in the past. Just check the date.

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Free @.X. he just has cabin fever. Not sure if he's restricted or not from the other thread.

 

[RogueWriter]

Remember long ago I told all you they will run a Rep as a third candidate to take votes from Trump. CNN will glowingly talk about Amash.

THE ABSOLUTELY WORST thing Biden can do now is announce his Vice pick!!!! All these Dem womens are voicing their support for Biden during his me2 problem, hoping to be the Vice Pick. If he picks one, the others may go down the "let's hear her story" road

Biden will never, ever be the candidate the Dems nominate. I just don't believe it. They will find some way to replace him, either feeding the sexual assault theme about a week before the convention, or - more likely - by using the virus as an excuse to put off State primaries until the convention, so a plurality of delegates remain uncommitted, thereby allowing a surprise ( wink wink Rahm Emanuel/Michelle Obama or Cuomo/Michelle but not Hillary ) pick to 'save' the party. It would not surprise me if there are printers/marketers right now at work designing color schemes/slogans for the surprise candidates.

 

[RogueWriter]

One thing I am absolutely positive about is that Michelle Obama will be the Dems VP candidate. They need her for the minority vote, the women's vote, the liberal's vote, the gullible youth vote, etc. Dems have no issues to run on, so they will have to run on the 'It's Time' theme for a female VP or Pres spot, just like they did with Barack's first run.

 

[johname]

You have to understand the seriousness of replacing the nominee with the most votes. They're stuck with Biden unless the me2 thing gets so out of hand Biden himself quits


I dont think Michele has it in her to be vice. But If I was her I would do it

 

[Domainace]

Yet Lysol, Clorox, the Surgeon General, etc still felt the need to issue warnings.

Of course - they have to protect their customers who are Democrats as well - no point in losing market share.

And then there is the free publicity to be milked: "You can't drink or inject us, but we can disinfect your countertop."

And reason number three, the uniquely American tendency to sue an innocent party for millions when one does something incredibly stupid to oneself.

 

[RogueWriter]

You have to understand the seriousness of replacing the nominee with the most votes. They're stuck with Biden unless the me2 thing gets so out of hand Biden himself quits

Which I think they will make him do, about a week before the convention, think of the drama, all the headlines and pretend hand wringing, then miraculously at the convention, look who steps forward.

 

[JB Lions]

The people voted for him, end of story. He's the nominee. He's also leading the General poll and big state polls.

It really becomes a he said/she said. I just find it odd if somebody sexually assaulted your daughter, you call...........Larry King. Not the police or her dad beating the crap out of him.

 

[johname]

Sounds to me there might be an old Senate report on the incident. If so that would be the only thing that can escalate this. If not, then this will blow over like the Biden hugging women too much scandal.

 

[JB Lions]

He should go ahead and address this and try to nip it in the bud, not let it linger. I think they have but maybe stronger.

In the past the term harassment was used, even a year ago, didn't mention assault. Her mom didn't mention assault in the Larry King clip that's on the page linked to below.

"After Reade says she complained to supervisors about harassment, but not assault, she had her responsibilities scaled back as a result until she was eventually told to find a new job.........

A year ago, Reade spoke to media about claims Biden had inappropriately touched her while she worked for him in the Senate, as part of a group of eight women who said Biden had a habit of inappropriate physical displays of affection. At the time, Reade didn't mention the assault and Biden said he'd be "more mindful."

This seems to be a decent reporting of events.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...llegation-what-we-know-tara-reade/3039909001/

So he did some inappropriate stuff, but penetration I'm not sure of.

 

[johname]

this is the start of trump trying to do rallys again

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...xpected-travel-arizona-tour-plant/3047898001/

 

[mr-x]

This really isn't up for debate, a lot has happened since that old article you posted. Like audio of Trump/Cohen setting up shell companies to pay off women.

Not sure why you keep posting up old articles? This was the second time this week, you've done it in the past. Just check the date.

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Free @.X. he just has cabin fever. Not sure if he's restricted or not from the other thread.

So you agree she hired a con-man lawyer to extorted more money after her payment in return for a NDA.

 

[mr-x]

One thing I am absolutely positive about is that Michelle Obama will be the Dems VP candidate. They need her for the minority vote, the women's vote, the liberal's vote, the gullible youth vote, etc. Dems have no issues to run on, so they will have to run on the 'It's Time' theme for a female VP or Pres spot, just like they did with Barack's first run.

That would be horrible. I don't think she wants it but could be wrong. Obama's are smart politicians and it would look better if they "forced" her to accept for the good of the country.

 

[mr-x]

Possibly the most democrat excuse I've heard this week.

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It really becomes a he said/she said. I just find it odd if somebody sexually assaulted your daughter, you call...........Larry King. Not the police or her dad beating the crap out of him.

Same guy who went along with teenage Kavanaugh participating in gang rapes at the university while he was still in high school.

 

[GILSAN]

I’ve seen a lot of people in this thread criticize women harshly for coming forward years after an incident (Examples: Kavanaugh, trump) and strongly doubt their credibility, but when the shoe’s on your favorite foot all of a sudden she gets a pass?

I think the vast majority of these woman who come out tons of years later with sexual accusations against politicians are fucking liars, regardless of weather they are Democrats or Republicans. The main difference is that the Liberal media never bother to investigate such accusations against Democrats, but they go apeshit and invent stories when it's against Republicans.

That is what pisses me off... the lying, deceitful, biased, fake Liberal Media...

 

[JB Lions]

So you agree she hired a con-man lawyer to extorted more money after her payment in return for a NDA.

I agree they had that intercourse, Stormy and Trump.

 

[Domainace]

I agree they had that intercourse, Stormy and Trump.

You agree on the one thing that actually has not been proved, and deny the established facts that he paid an NDA, she violated it, and used a convicted conman (who naturally appealed to the Dems as a potential candidate for president) to try to hustle more money for her silence? These are established facts.

Them having intercourse is still unproven, likely though it is. It hasn't been proven, of course, because it is of little consequence either way.

 

[JB Lions]

You agree on the one thing that actually has not been proved, and deny the established facts that he paid an NDA, she violated it, and used a convicted conman (who naturally appealed to the Dems as a potential candidate for president) to try to hustle more money for her silence? These are established facts.

Them having intercourse is still unproven, likely though it is. It hasn't been proven, of course, because it is of little consequence either way.

I mean, what you looking for, video of the intercourse? They paid her $130,000, it wasn't for interior design work. Some basic cheating, it is what it is.

 

[Domainace]

I mean, what you looking for, video of the intercourse? They paid her $130,000, it wasn't for interior design work.

I am not saying they didn't sleep together, but simply that is hasn't been proven - unlike the things Mr-x cited. Anyway, it's trivial - because nobody cares if he slept with her. I doubt Melania even cares. A guy like Trump is going to play around - she knew that.

 

[mr-x]

If Biden had actually assaulted anyone, why did that not come out in the intensive vetting he went through (and yes, he did) for two terms as VP?
And why is she bringing it up now? Nothing but positive things to say during those 8 years?

I’ve seen a lot of people in this thread criticize women harshly for coming forward years after an incident (Examples: Kavanaugh, trump) and strongly doubt their credibility, but when the shoe’s on your favorite foot all of a sudden she gets a pass?

You're rules: Believe all women

 

[mr-x]

So she got paid for the date. Twice.no wait... three times.

Why are you upset he paid a hooker for sex? Aren't they consenting adults? Wasn't that the reasoning you used when Bill Clinton had affairs?

I mean, what you looking for, video of the intercourse? They paid her $130,000, it wasn't for interior design work. Some basic cheating, it is what it is.