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XYZ sales, really????

Labeled as question in Domain Selling and Domain Sales, started by betthelot, May 14, 2021

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It’s legit....stop being such a bore

Poll closed May 28, 2021.
  1. Yes

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  2. No

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Total: 79 vote(s)
  1. oldtimer

    oldtimer Do some good for humanity and the environment VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    Although there might be cause to be suspicious of certain activities and events in the domain Industry, but what causes some of the suspicions around domain sales is the fact that most of us expect quality to be the main driver behind the sales and although that might be true for some of the top single word category defining domains, but in reality in most other cases the main factor behind domain sales is for the end users having fallen in love with certain domains that they feel they must have and are willing to pay much more than what we consider the domains to be normally worth.

    Hence the fact that we are always puzzled by the sales reports from different venues and wonder why certain domains sell while the better quality ones remain unsold.

    And for this reason we should not allow ourselves to get carried away with our suspicions and start questioning every domain sale, although if certain patterns emerge that point to a domain sale not being what it really is then perhaps things should be discussed with a few of the more experienced members first to get their opinion before raising doubts about someone's business in public.

    IMO
     
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  2. Lox

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    … because in the last 7 years we witnessed a huge problems with the people running the ngtld registries (not every, but mostly). I was not present on NPs when dot best registry did a dance and mislead or fooled many people. How many of you brought .best and get burned?

    They entered NPs in March 2019 with 10k reg. domains and guess what’s happen…

    best.png

    dot Best rep. Last seen on December 2020 … leaving with 130k regs. appx. $500k+ in the pocket. Poorer and inexperienced paid the price and only a few NPs jumped in …trying to stop the madness. Everyone else is watching the show.

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    Now XYZ … nobody wants to remember the famous P&D and Premium Shill … using a code name “revolutionary” for $0,01 …
    If you dig deeper you’ll see I’m one of those people who have been trying to support the ngtld business but I can’t support someone who’s going to $hit on me or ppl who don’t know what’s going on.

    xyz.png

    About doxxing … honestly, if ppl start to play with it , it will bring down a whole aftermarket and some of wk people behind registries/ registrars.
    imo

    Regards
     
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  3. oldtimer

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    The problem here is that this thread wasn't created to address the many issues with some of the New gTLD Registries,

    but rather to publicly raise doubts about the extraordinary number of sales of a well known member of NP which could be because of her ingenuity and hard work than anything else.

    IMO
     
  4. Lox

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    The OP question is/was related to the prev. notorious pump and dump and other “revolutionary” practices by registry. The lady was just a sub (spotted) , leading to the more expensive question - do we know if this particular registry is again busy cooking more sales via x persons.

    You can be nice and ask the question indirectly or straightforward as OP did, hitting the nerves and waiting for the dots to jump out of the box.

    It seems some people don’t have any idea how manipulative (untrue) tactics are used and still to extract $ from the end users incl. dn investors. Even some of the dn bloggers content (this company is using ngtld) was used as a proof for go get .ext where in the reality the companies are using .io .com. Cctld. Due diligence

    Regards
     
  5. Crysis

    Crysis Established Member ★★★★★★★★★★

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    Please stop with your mumbo jumbo nonsense
     
  6. oldtimer

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    It will be more prudent to start a new thread for addressing the many issues that we all know exist in the domain Industry.

    Nevertheless I don't like the old policy of always finding a female to make an example of as a warning to everyone else.

    IMO
     
  7. Lox

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    Of course I can do that. No problem at all.

    Regards
     
  8. Lox

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    Nothing against dn gear success. I’m always positive to see things are going well for domain investors. Gender or lifestyle is irrelevant for me.
     
  9. DNGear

    DNGear Domainnaut VIP

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    Do you really think you are saving fellow domainers? Being a member since 6 years in Namepros. I never read your post until this thread.
    Your motive seems like whatever the extenson you say, we all should buy. We shouldn't sell other extensions. Even if we sell That would be a registry sale.

    I started buying .xyz domains in NP since 2015.

    Here is a screenshot of my payment which was bought in 2016 in here. So Let's concentrate on our work and drop this conspiracy. We only live once.

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  10. likemike

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    They seem to be very legit to me, even as a mainly dot com guy myself. Different names sell for different reasons to buyers. I'm sorry there are so many cynics. It takes a long time -- sometimes years to sell some names.
     
  11. ThatNameGuy

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    I gave some very specific examples (not sure what happened to them?) of how these domains sales could have been more "promotional" vs. for an actual business/website. I provided an example of a local investor from my area who is seriously looking to invest in my new brokerage business by purchasing, for a premium, domains like Beacon.online and Genisis.online for his car dealership Beacon Motors and his Storage facilities known as Genisis Storage. Note, I'm just using the domains Beacon.xyz and Genisis.xyz as examples of how someone could invest in Swetha's business for purely promotional purposes.

    I see where Swetha owns 60,000 .xyz domains, and I've gotten hundreds of good ideas for my .online portfolio from her .xyz portfolio that's displayed at DAN. Regardless of the extension right of the dot, she has a lot of very good domain names left of the dot.

    Personally it matters not what domainers think, what matters is what an "end user" thinks, and that's my focus:xf.wink:
     
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  12. The Durfer

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    what @DNGear should really do is not tell us anything and become a millionaire.
     
  13. Lox

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    It is not about your sales or acquisition. I don’t question your business culture nor the way sales happen.

    I know exactly how many xyz domains are developed (lots) or parked or for sale or null NS or MX only or used by BC or CC.

    In what I’m interested is the rise in xyz zone. (and I guess OP spotted the same and since your sales are more prominent (thumbs up) and in mid-high figures, OP come to conclusion- maybe there’s something …)

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    You don’t need to post nor I ask for any proof. Keep going! Good fortune to you!

    Regards
     
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  14. ThatNameGuy

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    he/she/they is most likely already a millionaire or she wouldn't own 60,000 .xyz domains seen at DNGear.com.....at least she started out with a few million and still has a million:xf.smile:
     
  15. Ostrados

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    I believe @DNGear sales are legit because I saw many good xyz sales at SquadHelp. Here is a screenshot direct from SquadHelp reported sales panel:
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    You can actually see in the list above Genesis.xyz sold for 21399
     
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  16. Windoms

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    .xyz is very usable, you can use it in any country and people wont go "wtf". its not .link or .company.

    And since shes been very smart to own the goods keywords in that extension, in volumes, of course she's gonna get sales.

    Here are her past sales
    Genesis, split, protocol, chia, waterfront, decentral, beacon, patron, uncommon.

    I dont see strange words or 2 words.

    And she has volumes, trimmed volumes.

    You are a very stupid domainer if you dont understand why this simple strategy is yielding sales.
     
  17. Tryjake

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    Who’s is said queen?

    I have some .xyz I’m fond of
     
  18. Tryjake

    Tryjake Established Member

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    What is it? Geek minded people? Who’s behind it? Overall the extension i mean? Please elaborate
     
  19. Samer

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    @jmcc knows.

    man behind xyz admittedly, is a good marketer.

    Lol penny promo was amazing, i should've got
     
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  20. Windoms

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    They are now selling on the domain for sales page.

    That end user wont venture into aftermarket .xyz for those 2 words or whatever you'll find. Only if you've got pristine stuff.

    And seeing what @DNGear had been buying in 2016, rest assured she's got all the good names by now.
     
  21. jmcc

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    Negari is probably one of the best marketers of new gTLDs. Some domainers may consider that the heavily discounted registration spikes make it hard to sell .XYZ domain names but that's not the point. The aim of heavy discounting (and it is a very cynical business model) is to grow a TLD quickly rather than make domainers rich.

    Most discounted registrations will not renew but, depending on the depth of the discount, between 3% and 10% can renew. It is influenced by the target market for the discounts. If the full renewal fee after the first year is considered cheap, people may just renew without worrying. But if someone has started to develop a website on a discounted registration, they will renew at full price if they think that their website (or e-mail address) is worth it.

    Discounting can absolutely destroy resale values in a TLD but domainers really are not the complete market for the new gTLDs. Negari and .XYZ got a lot of flack over its discounting strategy. Some of the gTLD registries don't want too many domainers and have priced their reg fee at a multiple of .COM prices. This is because higher reg fee domain names tend to renew better than cheaper ones. They may remain small but the revenue from the renewal fees is steady. Also it might be better to think of .XYZ as a non .COM market as it has some very interesting geographical aspects.

    Regards...jmcc
     
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  22. jmcc

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    These are the usage tracking (No site, Active, Not Found, Holding, Affiliate Landers, PPC, Redirects and Sales) percentages for .XYZ based on known PPC/Holding/Sales/Affiliate lander hosters and websites. It isn't a full web usage survey but it illustrates the key elements for .XYZ for May 2021:

    No site: 26.4384
    Active: 52.7386
    Not found: 0.0001
    Holding: 8.0303
    Affiliate: 0.6472
    PPC Parked: 8.8218
    Redirect: 0.6599
    Sales: 2.6637

    The developed in-TLD websites percentage, based on previous web usage surveys, would be between 12 and 15%.

    Regards...jmcc
     
  23. Bob Hawkes

    Bob Hawkes Top Member NameTalent VIP Gold Account Trusted Blogger

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    Thanks for all your information, @jmcc. We are so fortunate to have you on NamePros! Is it possible to add to the following interesting observation - i.e. in a general way where is .xyz more used?
    Thanks,
    Bob
     
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  24. jmcc

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    Still crunching the May 2021 data, Bob,
    I'll add some more info when it finishes crunching. Some of the legacy gTLDs have begun to sweat the assets by raising renewal fees in an attempt to maintain registrations but the .XYZ market seems quite vibrant in that it has, to some extent, become a .COM alternative for people who may not be able to afford the equivalent .COM domain name and don't want to use the local ccTLD.

    The .XYZ string is immediately recognisable as a generic whereas most of the other new gTLDs are semantic in that the right of the dot has a specific meaning (typically in English). It is also less likely to have people adding .com to the end of it to make a .com domain (example.xyz is unlikely to be confused with examplexyz.com).

    Regards...jmcc
     
  25. koolishman

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    I don't doubt these sales.

    But I have seen tactics some investors employ in startup investments, buy artificially inflating valuations and buying and selling among them. Then they will find a bigger fool, who is unaware of reality.
     

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