guide The domain name is too long

[kandelrashmi]

Hello Guys I am being suggested that the domain name of my site medicinalmadhoney.com is too long. The SEO Guy has suggested me to purchase a new domain with short or abbreviated form and redirect the traffic to this site. What should I do in such case please help me.

 

[pb]

Well, you could try and purchase madhoney.com but it's not terrible.

 

[Jannes]

It's shorter than medicinalmarijuana.

 

[MKA]

Hello Guys I am being suggested that the domain name of my site medicinalmadhoney.com is too long. The SEO Guy has suggested me to purchase a new domain with short or abbreviated form and redirect the traffic to this site. What should I do in such case please help me.

Your SEO guy doesn't know what he's talking about. The domain name doesn't affect SEO directly. It's all indirect: misspellings, untrustworthy domain, etc. leads to higher bounce rates which in turn affects SEO. You have all the good keywords you need in your domain: "medicinal," and "mad honey," meaning that all your meta tags and description will contain those words.

You could of course reach out to get madhoney.com, but you can expect a price-tag in the low five figure range. If they're willing to sell that is.

 

[kandelrashmi]

Well, you could try and purchase madhoney.com but it's not terrible.

hahah nice one there

 

[kandelrashmi]

It's shorter than medicinalmarijuana.

legally it's longer

 

[kandelrashmi]

Your SEO guy doesn't know what he's talking about. The domain name doesn't affect SEO directly. It's all indirect: misspellings, untrustworthy domain, etc. leads to higher bounce rates which in turn affects SEO. You have all the good keywords you need in your domain: "medicinal," and "mad honey," meaning that all your meta tags and description will contain those words.

You could of course reach out to get madhoney.com, but you can expect a price-tag in the low five figure range. If they're willing to sell that is.

Thanks for your honest response, appreciated and noted.

 

[Jannes]

Forget about the seo guy, what do you think yourself? Too mouthful for you?

(for obvious reasons we cannot brainstorm unregistered names here, and don't reveal your own ideas either)

 

[johnn]

My wife does not care if something is long.

 

[MKA]

Thanks for your honest response, appreciated and noted.

And if your SEO guy starts arguing, just point out that John Mueller, Google's Webmaster Trends Analyst, has clarified that the domain name does not affect SEO.

Source:

reddit.com/r/SEO/comments/sta8hd/how_would_google_rank_the_following_domains/

Question:

"Assume people are interested in "web design" and this is how they would enter it into the Google search bar. The term "web design" is just an example.

How would Google rank the following domains:

1. web-design.com
2. web.design
3. web-design.net

(I don't know what is behind these URLs. It does not matter for my argument. Please don't click.)

I know .com is generally seen as the most valuable domain ending. But what if the term that is searched for ("web design") is identical to the domain, such as in the case of web.design?

Is web.design better than get-web-design.com?

Does anyone have any anecdotal evidence or even statistics to back this up?"

John Mueller:

"No difference. Also no difference if you used sabertoothed-hedgehog.com. Pick a domain name you can build on for the long run. Maybe you're doing web-design now, but what will you do in 5, 10 years? Pick something that lets you grow, or go with a domain name that's more like a brand which you can build out & which people can find you with directly (that would be my recommendation).

Creating separate sites for sub-business-ideas is a hassle, merging sites is a bigger hassle, moving domains is a hassle. All of these things take a lot of time, some money, and more. Go with something you want to keep for longer, which gives you room. There's no secret (or public) SEO-bonus for having your keywords in the domain name.

(and for those coming with "but there are keyword domains ranking well" -- of course, you can also rank well with a domain that has keywords in it. But you can rank well with other domain names too, and a domain won't rank well just because it has keywords in it.)"

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And Google has clear instructions on how to optimize your SEO, and nowhere is it suggested that having a good SLD is beneficial for your SEO.

And this makes perfect sense, because your SLD doesn't need to have anything to do with the content of your site, and it makes no sense that your site would receive preferential treatment for having a particular SLD.

That said, Exact Match Domains are (EMD) still valuable. Because back in the day EMD did affect SEO, so people registered the lot of them, locking out non-serious users who weren't willing to give up a small fortune to get one. So the people that did end up using EMD:s were serious end-users that wanted to market their services, which in turn meant that people began to associate EMD:s with quality services, creating a degree of provenance, which has lasted to this day.

There's also the superstition that Search Engine Coordinators like John Mueller are lying about how search engines works. Which has managed to inflate the value quite a bit.

But generally people are moving away from EMD, and instead are looking for short and memorable brand-names.

 

[cooljub]

Hi,
Shorter is often better, but in this case I think the name is good as it is. I wouldn't be in a rush to change it. Even if a little long, it says exactly what you sell, which most people probably agree helps with SEO. It rolls pretty well for a longer name too, which makes it more memorable.

@Domain Shane is a honey fan who runs beehouse.com, but he's not been on here for a long time.

 

[NameMaxi.com]

medicinal is hard to spell but I see you already use it as your brand so I think you need to stick with it. having said that, there is no reason you cannot use something shorter for your website.

I would suggest these mmhoney.com for your website. its available now so reg it.

 

[Thanksjo]

My wife does not care if something is long.

Your wife is a veteran. Her Long service award was duly earned

 

[Refuelgym]

And if your SEO guy starts arguing, just point out that John Mueller, Google's Webmaster Trends Analyst, has clarified that the domain name does not affect SEO.

Ah, John Mueller—he talks a lot, but if you observe closely, none of it can truly be called a revelation. He just repeats the official statements from Google about their algorithm updates, albeit in new words, making it seem as though he's sharing something groundbreaking. I remember that his own site was deindexed during an algorithm update about a year ago.

 

[enterscope]

Buying MadHoney.com would be the ideal situation.

And imo, would be worth every penny. Not only will your ad campaigns do considerably better (clickthroughs, brand recall, etc.) but you will own a very valuable asset (MadHoney.com) that will only appreciate in value. It would increase the value of your company and could always be used for collateral, resell, or other monetization.

As it stands, medicinalmadhoney.com is only worth the registration fee. And if you build an ecommerce business on this domain, it won't affect price much if you resell the business later. Whereas, MadHoney.com will only increase in value as you grow your business.

It will make the difference between a $100,000 value business or a multi-million dollar business down the line.

 

[Samer]

Dont forgot about syllables.
Generally, aim for less than three syllables.
Three at most; and four is on the high end.

Yours is seven syllables. Consider abbreviating.

 

[DomainNature]

My wife does not care if something is long.

Only the SEO guy thinks is too long.

 

[DomainNature]

For such rare honey, I would donate the most important Honey domain in the world, but that is for later.

 

[HotKey]

My wife does not care if something is long.

I presented this argument to my wife and she says we have too much time on our hands

 

[alcy]

long names suck.

they dont sell and no body wants long except wives

 

[tld4me]

medicinal is hard to spell but I see you already use it as your brand so I think you need to stick with it. having said that, there is no reason you cannot use something shorter for your website.

I would suggest these mmhoney.com for your website. its available now so reg it.

This is great advice. I'm surprised the OP hasn't registered that abbreviation when pointed out 7 days ago.

MadHoney(.)com would certainly be great. Then you would own the category name for your product, but if cost is an issue or it is not possible for some other reason, grab the other suggested domain for simple registration fees.

Not only is it the abbreviation for your company, but it is also: short, easy to remember, easy to pronounce, easy to spell. Also has the positive connotation of "Mmmmmm.... Honey!"

No reason to not get it.

 

[Patryx]

Hi Kandel,
I saw your profile on github and I really appreciate what you do for the environment, bees, and spreading knowledge.
Siad that, I've made some researches about your Domanin Name.
As some here suggested, madhoney(.)com is not available. It's not on Sedo and not on Afternic, maybe on other marketplaces. If you want try a broker service.
I saw there is madhoney(.)net, a website that sell mad honey, but it doesn't focus on it medical aspect. The same at realmadhoney(.)com.
Your website points to a specific aspect of the mad honey, i.e. as medicinal. So, I think that word is very important to distinguish commercial mad honeys from your.
On Sedo there is medicalmadhoney(.)com for $1000, but medical has not the same meanning of medicinal.

Then, if you want a DN that tell exactly what your product is, medicinalmadhoney is perfect.
You don't need to shorten it for seo. You could decide to create a brand with no keywords, but I advice against it.

Your website is rankend well, also for other languages, not only english.

 

[Future Sensors]

I'm surprised the OP hasn't registered that abbreviation when pointed out 7 days ago.

I'm not so surprised. SEO-wise, this thread is already doing a fine job for the domain mentioned. OP is not participating in this discussion any longer, and members of this forum will keep this thread alive.

 

[MKA]

Ah, John Mueller—he talks a lot, but if you observe closely, none of it can truly be called a revelation. He just repeats the official statements from Google about their algorithm updates, albeit in new words, making it seem as though he's sharing something groundbreaking. I remember that his own site was deindexed during an algorithm update about a year ago.

Right, you can find all of this in Google SEO Guide, but it's good for clarification. Especially when you have SEO "experts" conflating fact and speculation.

This is great advice.

mmhoney.com is not that good, because it's Medical "Mad Honey" not "Medicinal Mad" Honey, and it's not clear from the brand alone what "mm" stands for.

medicinalmadhoney.com is a decent enough domain. It's not an investment-level domain, but it does make for a good brand that signals the business' purpose: To provide mad honey with medicinal properties.

Madhoney.com is an investment level domain, and so is medicinalhoney.com (albeit to a lesser degree).

 

[Future Sensors]

medicinalmadhoney.com is a decent enough domain. It's not an investment-level domain, but it does make for a good brand that signals the business' purpose: To provide mad honey with medicinal properties.

Thanks for adding even more SEO optimized terms to this thread, it will certainly help OP.