.mobi The debate overshadows the discussion...

[jeremyp]

It's now the .mobi debate boards.

I hope that this can clean itself up a bit to become more constructive and less pro vs anti.

In the meantime, I wish you the best and I'll check in from time to time.

Good luck and keep a balanced and sincere perspective.

Jeremy Padawer

 

[circa1850]

Personally, I am learning still from the forum. I am learning tips and techniques.

I am not the programmer many here are. I am a planner and developer in the concept and implementation sense but not in the "hands on" developer sense.

I don't mind a little squabble every now and then. But, like I mentioned, these are repetitive arguments that were on this forum in March 2006.

This is May 2007. Time to change the channel if you don't like what you're watching, so to speak. It's playing nothing but reruns.

The mods...what are they going to do? How can they monitor and be impartial and not take sides or even present the appearance of not siding when they step in? They can't. I don't see it as a mod issue.

 

[scandiman]

Jeff has agreed to take a vacation from the MOBI forum. iNod is already working on drafting new guidelines. NamePros management has been made aware of concerns and is supporting the new changes. The point has been made.

Before planning splinter groups, how about giving peace a chance? :hearts:

RJ

Thanks RJ, Inod and Jeff for understanding our concerns. I look forward to seeing the new guidelines.

 

[oldtimer]

Putting any restrictions on others when they express legitimate concerns about problems with certain aspects of an extension only helps those who want to maintain a cult like atmosphere and is a disservice to all those who read the forum to advance their domaining skills and knowledge. Constructive criticism should be tolerated and encouraged, what should be brought under control are the posts that certain people make under the disguise of constructive criticism with the intension to make certain extensions look bad because they consider those extensions as a threat to their already established websites and PPC income. They certainly don’t want to loose any visitors to new extensions and the more potential a new extension might have to become successful the more it will be the subject of their constant attacks. Its all about marketing and creating a perception, unfortunately those who have invested heavily in new extensions and those who see new extensions as a threat to their existing profits have different agendas and are always going to be at odds because they have opposing interests. The best solution to this problem is to make a rule that says whoever starts a thread has the right to set the tone for that thread and if someone else has comments with negative tone then they need to start their own thread in order to express their views. It should be up to the forum leaders to decide what is true constructive criticism and what might be effecting the tone of the thread in a negative way. IMO

 

[-REECE-]

Putting any restrictions on others when they express legitimate concerns about problems with certain aspects of an extension only helps those who want to maintain a cult like atmosphere and is a disservice to all those who read the forum to advance their domaining skills and knowledge. Constructive criticism should be tolerated and encouraged, what should be brought under control are the posts that certain people make under the disguise of constructive criticism with the intension to make certain extensions look bad because they consider those extensions as a threat to their already established websites and PPC income. They certainly don’t want to loose any visitors to new extensions and the more potential a new extension might have to become successful the more it will be the subject of their constant attacks. Its all about marketing and creating a perception, unfortunately those who have invested heavily in new extensions and those who see new extensions as a threat to their existing profits have different agendas and are always going to be at odds because they have opposing interests. The best solution to this problem is to make a rule that says whoever starts a thread has the right to set the tone for that thread and if someone else has comments with negative tone then they need to start their own thread in order to express their views. It should be up to the forum leaders to decide what is true constructive criticism and what might be effecting the tone of the thread in a negative way. IMO

Well Said!

 

[movingconcierge]

I agree that oldtimers perception is dead on.

I'm not sure, however, that letting the OP decide that they want a flame thread or some other kind of inflamatory thread would do. It has to be a bit more structured I'm afraid. People who are bent on posting inappropriate things will exploit that rule tout de suite.

Whatever the "rules" turn out to be, they need to be adhered to and enforced - on both sides of the issue.

 

[DBADT2007]

Hi Everyone,
I have already posted regarding this subject, but I think some of you might miss it cause my fellow dot mobi prosayers, just want to chill for a bit. So, whether your a prosayer or naysayer, take a look at my response.

http://www.namepros.com/331639-mobi-may-be-biggest-hoax-history-5.html

In the meantime, I will leave you with another quote:
Your attitude, not your aptitude, will determine your altitude. -Zig Ziglar

Hope you all have a great day/night! Take care all. Peace out.

 

[ezinaz]

Personally, I feel that it is dangerous to ignore the naysayers. Of course you should form your own opinions from the information gleaned from these boards both good and bad. But if we censor the boards and remove criticism of the extension, we may not be armed with the right information going forward.

 

[movingconcierge]

I don't think anyone is saying censor the board, rather they are saying keep out the senseless posts that do nothing more than flame, encite, "stir," the crowd and also eliminate dunning. That's all. The board was being plagued by these type of posts and everyone just got sick and tired of it.

All is good and well. I see healthy debate moving forward.

 

[Traveler]

We should of course allow opposing viewpoints it only makes us better domainers. There is at least one person however that comes to mind right away who is an obvious troll and is here just seeking attention. He apparently likes to take threads off topic just for sport. Him and one other person who shall remain nameless love to restate the same things over and over and offer little of anything usefull to threads and rarely anything on topic. However they try to defend themselves saying they are just expressing an oppossing viewpoint. I'm sure the regulars here know who I am talking about. In my opinion we don't need rules we just need to ban these two individuals from the .mobi forum. I think many of us already have both of them on ignore anyway. :hehe:

 

[garrett200]

I don't agree with any kind of censorship. I was kicked out of a forum last year simply for expressing some dissenting opinions. Wasn't flaming or anything else, it was just simply for my opinions which didn't happen to agree with the majority of the board.

In my mind, this is exactly what forums are for, to bat around different opinions. Doesn't mean you always have to agree with them. If you agree with everything and all the other posters are "yes men", then you will never learn anything.

I don't see a need for new rules. Just because you don't like someone's opinion, it doesn't mean they should be banned or their posts removed. Open up your mind a little and maybe you might learn something from them, even if you don't happen to agree.

 

[movingconcierge]

I don't mind debate - I actually really, really enjoy it. I don't like rainman posts. When an large group of people (-1) comes together to a fine point without colusion, then there is a jagged rock in the sock.

Management heard the call. They reviewed the threads. They agreed with the group (-1) and they acted. I, for one, appreciate it. I enjoy the open debate and I am glad we are back to it.

Maybe we can end this ugly thread now:?

 

[cosmik debris]

I don't think anyone is saying censor the board, rather they are saying keep out the senseless posts that do nothing more than flame, encite, "stir," the crowd and also eliminate dunning. That's all. The board was being plagued by these type of posts and everyone just got sick and tired of it.

All is good and well. I see healthy debate moving forward.

I placed a post the other day which was removed. PM'd the mod just to find out why. Never heard back so I assume that it fell into " flame " category. I'm sorry if it was inapropiate and I apologize, but it was just my way of telling those naysayers to put up or shutup. I'll be more careful in the future when I post. mmmmmmMobi.......tastes good.

 

[scandiman]

I think to look at this in the context of censorship is missing the point. For me it is best viewed as pollution. This is the .mobi subforum. I come here for information and ideas about .mobi: What sites are being built, development methods, monetization ideas, parking information, sales stats, what's for sale, etc. If this isn't the point of a .mobi subforum then what is it? There are dozens of subforums on NP, each serves a purpose.

When someone comes in here and repeatedly bags the extension, the company behind it and those who have purchased .mobi domains, it is like peeing in the well. It ads nothing of value and no one wants to drink the water anymore. Resorting to using the ignore feature is like holding your nose when sipping the water. Enough piss in the water and I'll quench my thirst elsewhere.

Naysayers are not censored at NP, they have their space and it is called the Domain Name Discussion section. They can pee to their hearts content over there.