.mobi MOBI vs COM

[noonoo1]

Hi guys is it possible to start a debate about the mighty .com vs .mobi ?

I believe that .mobi will become far stronger than the .com in the next few years.

One of my main reasons for believing this is as follows;

1. The ratio of mobile phones to pc's.

2. The restrictions of employers allowing their staff the use of pc's. Time is money!

3. The screen size restrictions of mobile phone's.

4. The lack of time available in a day to access home pc's. Kids are always on the pc.

5. The mobile phone technology is getting better exponentially.

6. I am sure the carbon footprint of a mobile is less than a pc.

7. There is only one domain extension designed for the mobile, but many extension's for pc's. I would say watering down the value of domains with multiple extension's. This maybe why some people are so negative about .mobi's.

please feel free to add more to this debate.

 

[hedgefund]

dot mobi will never be stronger than dot com. Too many reasons to list.

Welcome to .mobi board! You will learn a lot about .mobi here.

 

[oldtimer]

And no rep added? Sheesh. Good luck with your new reg.

You are knowledgeable domainer and friendly mobier (just stay off some of those harsh words). As you had mentioned taxi has good potential and is amongst those things that people will probably try to find more with their phone rather than their PC.

 

[circa1850]

Reminder:

China has two immediate goals pertaining to the internet by year's end 2009:

More computers in china than the total combined in the world.
More .cn registrations than any other TLD or ccTLD

It will achieve both. Perhaps before the end of 2009.

China (the number one population in the world) and India (the number 2 population in the world) are both pushing for the use of their own language and native script. There is a revised and updated form of IDN being promoted.

There has been talk (just talk) about the possibility of an IDN adaptable mobi.

Dot com will continue to be huge and popular. But in sheer numbers it will not be the most populated. With the emphasis and shift dictated by other nations dot com will become in less demand and used. The only difference will be a monumental increase in IDN type domains. English word dot com will remain strong and popular, to the English speaking nations.

The internet is about to become a very fractured and broken up mess. What I just outlined is not speculation but paraphrasing reports and news from the global wires and trends. To continue to ignore the power and influence of the number one and number two populations and arguably the number one and two economic powerhouses is foolish. Plus, they do NOT have to play by anyone's rules other than the rules they set. China has already dictated to all government offices in China to abandon the .com and use the .cn. I assure you there is 100% compliance.

There are already more than 250 TLD's and ccTLD's and talk of even adding more. That is insane.

There needs to be a unifying and common extension that ties the knot in this long string of domain extensions.

With an estimate 3.5-4 billion cell phones currently in use and a projected 7 billion by 2010, guess which extension will be that unification extension.

I invite you to do your own research. I invite you to disprove my very brief synopsis of the future of domain usage and internet growth.

In the state of North Carolina, residents can now choose one of seventy-seven license plate designs. WHY...I can't even tell where my neighbors are from anymore.

How to promote .mobi utilizing methods outside of the internet:

Another site that I developed and maintain is a specialty niche medical education site. I already had plans of doing a direct mailing campaign promoting the FREE educational opportunities.

Anything of this nature is not typically tossed upon receipt at hospitals. In most instances, 3 cards are going to each hospital...one each to the directors of nursing, radiology, and respiratory. Those are the three biggest users. Already for 2007, I have surpassed 225,000 users. There were a total of 355,000 in 2006.

The cards are addressed to each of these department head along with the sticker PLEASE POST FOR FREE EDUCATION CREDITS. I assure you, they will get posted at time clocks, bulletin boards, copies made and circulated and memos sent via the hospital intranet.

There is an estimated 7000-9000 hospitals in the USA. That equates to approximately 21,000-27,000 postcards. 9000 have been printed. These are heavy card stock beautiful glossy cards with printing on both sides.

800 have already been mailed out...but there was one addition made:

Thus far, the cards have gone out to the states of SC, NC, VA, AL, with En-Route. I placed a similar sticker for Boroughs on the cards mailed to NY, and NJ.

Six states down, 44 and DC to go.

I don't have anything running that actually measures the usage of the site, I'll figure that out. But my AdMob account tells me that I had 1032 hits in June on the AdMob.

The owner of Boroughs can relate his results should he wish.

On my site, I have also been putting together a DIRECTORY of sorts for the promotion of .mobi and several sites are listed. Sorry if I have delayed in getting them active. (please, do not contact me as I have been swamped). If it is out there, I will find you.

There is an outside chance that Canada and India will be included. I have been contacted by folks in both nations that they use the same continuing education credits my site lists but I have not gotten any response from the official governing bodies regulating health care workers and acceptance of these.

A while back I mentioned I am not waiting on anyone to carry or promote me. I am not waiting for this site, that site, mTLD, or anyone one else to push mobi and carry me along for the ride. I am creating my own ride with plans that were already in motion.

Is this money well spent? Postcards, stamps, postage, labor to address, cost of materials, cost of labels?

You better believe it. Cards like this do not get tossed. Trust me on this. I see them posted all the time. I see copies of copies posted. I could spend money on promoting my site on the internet. But I do not need to. And I won't be subjected to click fraud. And my site already owns the number 1,2,3,and 7 spot on Yahoo and the number 1 and 3 spot on Google for the search terms.

How will this pay for itself? When the numbers are astronomical, then I will go into the direct email campaign to the Human Resource Department. I will be selling adspace complete with hospital logo and direct link to their job postings on an annual subscription. With a nationwide shortage of every profession and heated competition for qualified personnel, this is a win-win for me and the institution. Imagine exposing your jobs to millions of healthcare workers in all professions.

In order not to break the bank, I have divided the country up in regions. I will finish the southeast. Then I will contact those hospitals. I have the states of Tennessee and Georgia addressed and labeled ready to go. That leaves Florida and Mississippi.

Wait for Los Angeles, Chicago, New Orleans, San Diego, Dallas, and Fort Worth, Washington DC to be released to the world? Not a chance.

What they will have is LAL (LALiving).mobi, Cubby.mobi, BourbonSt.mobi, SDCA.mobi, FortWorthTX (and FWTX).mobi, DeCe.mobi to use and long before mTLD makes up their mind. And guess how those sites will be promoted?

So who has heard of .mobi?

By the time I am finished, tens of millions of well paid, fun loving, like to travel and party health care professionals will have their first exposure to .mobi.

99% (maybe 99.9) of the population probably hasn't even heard of .mobi ...

.mobi has a long way to go.

Perhaps 99.99% of 2.5-3 billion cell phones in use today have internet capability.

 

[DBADT2007]

dot mobi will never be stronger than dot com. Too many reasons to list.

No disrespect intended, but I would be careful with saying "never". Kind of reminds me of the alleged Bill Gates quote: "Nobody will ever need more than 640k RAM!" -- Bill Gates, 1981.

Mr Gates has denied ever saying this, that may or may not be true, but to all the dot com/dot mobi supporters, it ain't the same world it was then, more records are kept on the Internet of what you say and things usually stick around more. lol.

As for the Bill Gates comment, I find it hard to believe he didn't contact the publisher back then and request a correction due to being misquoted, if he truly never stated it.

So what is the point of this? Avoid stating definitives, can come back in byte ya; you know where!

 

[namewaiter]

No disrespect intended, but I would be careful with saying "never". Kind of reminds me of the alleged Bill Gates quote: "Nobody will ever need more than 640k RAM!" -- Bill Gates, 1981.

Mr Gates has denied ever saying this, that may or may not be true, but to all the dot com/dot mobi supporters, it ain't the same world it was then, more records are kept on the Internet of what you say and things usually stick around more. lol.

As for the Bill Gates comment, I find it hard to believe he didn't contact the publisher back then and request a correction due to being misquoted, if he truly never stated it.

So what is the point of this? Avoid stating definitives, can come back in byte ya; you know where!

agreed, but for every definitive statement that is proven wrong, they are thousands that aren't.

lets be realist ... .com will forever be king, .mobi, may however, be the leader in mobile recognition or atleast be a very strong alternative for those that want to focus solely on the mobile web or at the least create an alternate user experience and stream.

 

[iNod]

I have marked this thread as heated. Please remember this is a dicussion, please don't personally attack anyone.

- Steve

 

[circa1850]

I have marked this thread as heated. Please remember this is a dicussion, please don't personally attack anyone.

- Steve

What do you mean its a discussion??? Who do you think you are coming in here and telling us what we can't and can do!!!! :hehe:

 

[-REECE-]

What do you mean its a discussion??? Who do you think you are coming in here and telling us what we can't and can do!!!! :hehe:

That's what we get for all the whining some members were doing about the flaming and anti-mobi comments lately

This thread is pointless TBH. Anyone who's not an absolute newbie when it comes to domaining would never ask for a comparison between .com/.mobi -- it really makes no sense whatsoever.

There's nothing in common between the two, other than that they're both extensions. Dotcom has 100 fold more registrations, is used almost exclusively for desktop/laptop friendly sites, has had hundreds of billions spent on marketing/advertising the extensions flagship sites, is the extension of choice for most of Alexa's top 1000 sites, is responsible for almost all advertising dollars, and makes up the large majority of name sales reported over $100,000.

As was said earlier, .com is proven and .mobi is not. Sure anyone can say .mobi may surpass .com -- maybe I'll win the lotto if I buy a ticket also... The point being there is a chance, as there is with most things in life. But to make such a discussion at this point is really useless and serves nothing but to incite hate, flaming, and unsubstantiated claims.

.mobi is not proven. .mobi is not guranteed to succeed. .mobi may fail.
.com is proven. .com has already defined success. .com will not fail.

 

[circa1850]

I know I typically write a lot.

It's to help educate and save time from having to do independent research.

Obviously, I am wasting my time.

But I have not wasted nearly 30 years in advertising, design, and marketing.

I leave you with these four letters. If you want to know the meaning behind this, look it up. I am not going to waste anymore of my time or effort.

A
I
D
A

Right there is the key to success with any business and enterprise, including internet businesses and applications and even your own domaining efforts. Get any of them out of proper sequence and you will fail. Be unsucessful with the step by step approach and you will fail.

I don't care what business model or geek or guru you want to follow, they all based their success on this formula. Google and SEO are also based on this premise.

Good luck.

 

[scandiman]

.mobi is not proven. .mobi is not guranteed to succeed. .mobi may fail.

Depends how you measure failure but ultimately I don't see this happening unless mtld goes bankrupt and ICANN does nothing to support the domain holders and find a way for us to maintain our names. Which BTW I've heard is a possibility with the .travel registry who is in some financial straights right now. Yet another reason I am glad to see mtld make plenty of money.

.com is proven. .com has already defined success. .com will not fail.

in total agreement.

 

[-REECE-]

Depends how you measure failure but ultimately I don't see this happening unless mtld goes bankrupt and ICANN does nothing to support the domain holders and find a way for us to maintain our names. Which BTW I've heard is a possibility with the .travel registry who is in some financial straights right now. Yet another reason I am glad to see mtld make plenty of money.

in total agreement.

I just don't know why people have such overinflated expectations... You regged a name for $10 and expect it to be worth $1,000,000 overnight? I would be extremely happy if over time, every single .mobi was worth the equivalent of .net. If you stop and think about it for a bit -- those of us who've been involved in domaining for awhile... How many extensions have even had that honor? THAT, IMO, is success. You have 250+ extensions out there that will NEVER be worth more than .net. If you really thought .mobi was going to succeed, why not invest XXXX or XX,XXX, rather than investing low XXX and saying you'll make millions when it becomes bigger than .com?

I'll give you the biggest tip I've learnt in all my years of investing -- the more you invest (soundly invest), the more you make. End of story.

To me, I consider .mobi a success, because I have lower (I'd say, more reasonable) expectations. I'm making more on my .mobis than I ever made on parked .infos... When we look at all the domain sales reported week after week, .mobi fares better than about 96% of the extensions out there -- to me, that's success. If you define success as being greater than .com, sadly, I think you're wasting your time. If you define success as making 10-fold what you invested, then I think you've made the right choice to invest in .mobi.

 

[scandiman]

I just don't know why people have such overinflated expectations... You regged a name for $10 and expect it to be worth $1,000,000 overnight? I would be extremely happy if over time, every single .mobi was worth the equivalent of .net. If you stop and think about it for a bit -- those of us who've been involved in domaining for awhile... How many extensions have even had that honor? THAT, IMO, is success. You have 250+ extensions out there that will NEVER be worth more than .net. If you really thought .mobi was going to succeed, why not invest XXXX or XX,XXX, rather than investing low XXX and saying you'll make millions when it becomes bigger than .com?

I'll give you the biggest tip I've learnt in all my years of investing -- the more you invest (soundly invest), the more you make. End of story.

To me, I consider .mobi a success, because I have lower (I'd say, more reasonable) expectations. I'm making more on my .mobis than I ever made on parked .infos... When we look at all the domain sales reported week after week, .mobi fares better than about 96% of the extensions out there -- to me, that's success. If you define success as being greater than .com, sadly, I think you're wasting your time. If you define success as making 10-fold what you invested, then I think you've made the right choice to invest in .mobi.

Well said Reece. Could some .mobi's sell for a million bucks some day? I think it's quite possible but it doesn't happen overnight and it certainly won't happen at the expense of .com.

 

[pcaero]

I just don't know why people have such overinflated expectations... You regged a name for $10 and expect it to be worth $1,000,000 overnight? I would be extremely happy if over time, every single .mobi was worth the equivalent of .net. If you stop and think about it for a bit -- those of us who've been involved in domaining for awhile... How many extensions have even had that honor? THAT, IMO, is success. You have 250+ extensions out there that will NEVER be worth more than .net. If you really thought .mobi was going to succeed, why not invest XXXX or XX,XXX, rather than investing low XXX and saying you'll make millions when it becomes bigger than .com?

I'll give you the biggest tip I've learnt in all my years of investing -- the more you invest (soundly invest), the more you make. End of story.

To me, I consider .mobi a success, because I have lower (I'd say, more reasonable) expectations. I'm making more on my .mobis than I ever made on parked .infos... When we look at all the domain sales reported week after week, .mobi fares better than about 96% of the extensions out there -- to me, that's success. If you define success as being greater than .com, sadly, I think you're wasting your time. If you define success as making 10-fold what you invested, then I think you've made the right choice to invest in .mobi.

I love it invest invest invest....invest....

Don't you mean http://invest.mobi


couldn't resist..

 

[scandiman]

I love it invest invest invest....invest....

Don't you mean http://invest.mobi


couldn't resist..

Actually I would suggest starting a new thread seeking feedback on the great new site.

 

[-REECE-]

I love it invest invest invest....invest....

Don't you mean http://invest.mobi


couldn't resist..

Hehe Good job my friend Very well designed site and I'll definitely be using it myself. :kickass:

 

[whitebark]

This thread needs some humour... I was checking on a mobi I'm interested in buying and when I checked to see if the PR was valid the checker stated:
"Please enter a valid URL"

Haha silly people.

 

[scandiman]

This thread needs some humour... I was checking on a mobi I'm interested in buying and when I checked to see if the PR was valid the checker stated:
"Please enter a valid URL"

Haha silly people.

I ran into that at yahoo in the early days, their forms checker wouldn't recognize a .mobi e-mail as valid for signing up for services.

 

[DBADT2007]

I have marked this thread as heated. Please remember this is a dicussion, please don't personally attack anyone.

- Steve

Didn't mean for it to get heated or to be perceived as an attack on anyone, I do apologize if my comments came out as a personal attack on any one person or group. My comment was more directed to stating definitives.

I only mentioned it because the future is so uncertain and unpredictable. There was a time (pre-bubble burst 2000/ pre-911 world) when if you had asked me, I would have adamantly argued that the tech industry would never face a slowdown period ever; that it would only grow because tech was our future. And I didn't foresee any economic slowdowns. I was a bit naive and I have learned my lesson since then. My comment was more of a reflection of the person I was and the person I am- not meant to attack on anyone. However, I do apologize if anyone was offended.

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NOTE:
Oopsy, noticed an error in my first post. Hope that wasn't misinterpreted. I begun with "INHO:". I meant "IMHO = In My Humble Opinion", that "n" key is way to close to "m".

Makes a world of difference. :hehe:
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If you learn from defeat, you haven't really lost. -Zig Ziglar

 

[oldtimer]

I have marked this thread as heated. Please remember this is a dicussion, please don't personally attack anyone.

- Steve

It seems to me that up to this point everyone has been expressing their opinion or disagreement in a civil and professional manner.

 

[scandiman]

It seems to me that up to this point everyone has been expressing their opinion or disagreement in a civil and professional manner.

I agree, perhaps it was a preemptive move trying to keep the peace.