Problem with HugeDomains.com

[I Heart Noise]

Registered on this forum to confirm - Huge Domains are scumbags. I'm surprised no one sued them out of existence

They currently hold my old domain for 1,800 and when I asked them about negotiation they told me "Buy it now and we'll give you a 100$ discount"

Um, thanks?

 

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i would have gone with another bransable .com name over the .net - something more memorable than an acronym. just my 2 cents

 

[I Heart Noise]

i would have gone with another bransable .com name over the .net - something more memorable than an acronym. just my 2 cents

Aren't brandable domains hard to get, though? I'd imagine that anything valuable was taken a long time ago

Otherwise I would've gotten ihn.com

 

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yup, but a little bit of money goes a long way

 

[I Heart Noise]

yup, but a little bit of money goes a long way

Tried to make an offer on ihn.com just now and it said "minimum of 5,000". Ouch.

My guess is that it probably costs close to 10k.

 

[MapleDots]

Tried to make an offer on ihn.com just now and it said "minimum of 5,000". Ouch.

My guess is that it probably costs close to 10k.

3 letter .com, trust me 5k is not even close

 

[Name Trader]

@I Heart Noise - HD have not ripped you off, as I believe you said earlier in this thread. They caught a domain you dropped. That is world's apart from ripping you off. It's their domain now. They can do whatever they want with it. Including selling it at the price they want. I think you made a mistake to go with the same .net That will be one factor in deciding whether they drop the domain in the future. If they see the developed .net, they might hang onto it for longer. Both ihartn and iheartn were available for registration in .com. I think they would have been better choices. Just IMHO.

Maybe only tangentially related to this thread
But did anyone see recently that somebody sued HD recently for TM infringement. And HD won the case. They must have some smart lawyers over there. (Which they'll need with all the TM'd domains they own). I read that somewhere recently, but didn't take a note of the domain. I'd appreciate, if anybody remembers the domain name. I'd like to look that case up. Maybe get some ideas in case I ever get sued for TM infringement, on one of my domains.

 

[I Heart Noise]

@I Heart Noise - HD have not ripped you off, as I believe you said earlier in this thread. They caught a domain you dropped. That is world's apart from ripping you off. It's their domain now. They can do whatever they want with it. Including selling it at the price they want. I think you made a mistake to go with the same .net That will be one factor in deciding whether they drop the domain in the future. If they see the developed .net, they might hang onto it for longer. Both ihartn and iheartn were available for registration in .com. I think they would have been better choices. Just IMHO"]

And why do I need ihartn or iheartn if I got ihrtn.net? I'm not sure if I follow your logic

Buying something like ihn.com will definitely give me a boost since its a brandable domain, but it will also cost a fortune. The two domains you named are not brandable and they don't have any value to them, so the point of buying them would be...what exactly?

The story I heard about HD is that they are very unlikely to drop domains they got at any rate - if they'll do it will most likely end up at another domain reseller, so I'm not planning to get my hopes up on getting old domain back anytime soon

iheartnoise.com is taken, so that's out of the question, though it would've been nice if I had it

 

[I Heart Noise]

I still think its a rip-off/shitty business when someone tells you "If you'll order now we'll sell it to you for just 1,700" when they know there's no way in hell you can afford that as a small guy

Everyone is free to think otherwise, but to me that is just pure greed. I don't like people that put profits above everything else - never did and never will, no matter how many times people will repeat that its just business

 

[I Heart Noise]

What I noticed about HD too is that they don't have FB presence and their Twitter account is protected - I wonder why that is? Hardly sounds like a reliable business to me

 

[DomainGist]

I would never build a business on a .net these days. .com or nothing. Plenty of good cheap .coms still available.

Why?

Themeforest.net
Codecanyon.net
Slideshare.net
Comcast.net
Behance.net

Works for some types of site, tech / internet related.

 

[DomainGist]

I still think its a rip-off/sh*tty business when someone tells you "If you'll order now we'll sell it to you for just 1,700" when they know there's no way in hell you can afford that as a small guy

Everyone is free to think otherwise, but to me that is just pure greed.

Its what they have to charge to break a profit when considering sell through rates. They'll pay a few dollars to 'win' the closeout, plus pay for a year registration. So lets say an average of $25 per domain they snag.

Its fine you saying you should be able to buy it for say $200.... but then they would need 1 in every 8 expired domains they register to be purchased by the original owner to break even on a strategy like that. Sell through rates will be nothing like that.... because the vast majority of domains are intentionally dropped.

1% to 2% annual sell through rate on a portfolio more typical. Lets say 2% for arguments sake (optimistic)....

.... $25 x 50 = $1250.

Minus other operating costs like rent on their offices, data centers (costs a lot to run their software no doubt), employees (that employee who offered you a discount will be on a salary).

The simple fact is that you pay to own a domain for a specific period of time, you are only really 'leasing' it, if the lease expires and you fail to renew then somebody else gets to lease it.... whether that's Bob Smith a hobbyist or Huge Domains the corporation.

I think that by lashing out at Huge Domains you are probably expressing frustration at yourself really? Your registrar would have sent you several emails reminding of renewal, and they even offer an auto-renew feature, its really only your own fail.

The truth is that pretty much everybody on this forum stalks the same lists of expiring domains, to purchase them as they delete, so you won't hear anybody here criticise this practice.

Its the only way we can obtain good domains, because its not 1997 anymore. Its pretty rare to have somebody angry that they've lost their domain, you are in a very small minority.... 99.9% of deleted domains will be intentionally dropped by the previous owner who no longer has a use for it.

 

[I Heart Noise]

If I'm in a small minority how come that there are hundreds of negative articles on HD all over the web?

I can't post links here but type in "Huge Domains" and add "scam" or "hostage" and tell me again about a small minority I'm in. NamePros have a couple of threads about the experience of dealing with them, as a matter of fact

 

[I Heart Noise]

Its what they have to charge to break a profit when considering sell through rates. They'll pay a few dollars to 'win' the closeout, plus pay for a year registration. So lets say an average of $25 per domain they snag.

Its fine you saying you should be able to buy it for say $200.... but then they would need 1 in every 8 expired domains they register to be purchased by the original owner to break even on a strategy like that. Sell through rates will be nothing like that.... because the vast majority of domains are intentionally dropped.

1% to 2% annual sell through rate on a portfolio more typical. Lets say 2% for arguments sake (optimistic)....

.... $25 x 50 = $1250.

Minus other operating costs like rent on their offices, data centers (costs a lot to run their software no doubt), employees (that employee who offered you a discount will be on a salary).

The simple fact is that you pay to own a domain for a specific period of time, you are only really 'leasing' it, if the lease expires and you fail to renew then somebody else gets to lease it.... whether that's Bob Smith a hobbyist or Huge Domains the corporation.

I think that by lashing out at Huge Domains you are probably expressing frustration at yourself really? Your registrar would have sent you several emails reminding of renewal, and they even offer an auto-renew feature, its really only your own fail.

The truth is that pretty much everybody on this forum stalks the same lists of expiring domains, to purchase them as they delete, so you won't hear anybody here criticise this practice.

Its the only way we can obtain good domains, because its not 1997 anymore. Its pretty rare to have somebody angry that they've lost their domain, you are in a very small minority.... 99.9% of deleted domains will be intentionally dropped by the previous owner who no longer has a use for it.

Yeah, a reputable company like Huge Domains doesn't have FB page and their accounts on Twitter must be protected too - that's a good sign of reliable business to me. A reputable business should also offer a 100$ discount on 2k domains - that's a must.

But nevermind - I'm in a small minority. The goal of business is to screw anyone over, its 21st century after all

I don't understand business the way that others understand it, that much is clear

 

[DomainGist]

If I'm in a small minority how come that there are hundreds of negative articles on HD all over the web?

Well they own a portfolio of 350,000 domains and will be registering and dropping probably 100,000+ a year, so after many years of operation... I don't think "hundreds" of negative experiences proves anything other than a small minority.

But if this is going to boil down to a debate about legality vs ethics, then basically... they aren't doing anything illegal, so there is nothing you can do about it. They probably don't care if you think they are unethical.

 

[I Heart Noise]

Well they own a portfolio of 350,000 domains and will be registering and dropping probably 100,000+ a year, so after many years of operation... I don't think "hundreds" of negative experiences proves anything other than a small minority.

But if this is going to boil down to a debate about legality vs ethics, then basically... they aren't doing anything illegal, so there is nothing you can do about it. They probably don't care if you think they are unethical.

And this should be important to me...why? Is there a reason why I should care whether they give two shits about me?

 

[I Heart Noise]

lol, what a bizarre convo

I did not expect that many people to defend Huge Domains while frothing at the mouth - they must pay their lawyers well

 

[DomainGist]

Yeah, a reputable company like Huge Domains doesn't have FB page and their accounts on Twitter must be protected too - that's a good sign of reliable business to me. A reputable business should also offer a 100$ discount on 2k domains - that's a must.

But nevermind - I'm in a small minority. The goal of business is to screw anyone over, its 21st century after all

I don't understand business the way that others understand it, that much is clear

Having a little moan on facebook and twitter to an unpaid and overworked social media intern is pretty much the most 21st century thing somebody can do.

You don't own the domain, it isn't yours... you feel entitled to it, but you aren't. To be honest, if you want to talk about the 21st century... you actually sound like a bit of a snowflake who thinks he can kick up a fuss to get what he wants. Huge Domains aren't walmart, and you aren't complaining about a pubic hair on your pizza.

Just build on a new domain and learn from the experience. Hey, it happened to me once before I became a domainer. I had a big moan too, then I accepted that it was my own crap organisational skills and moved on.

Huge Domains are in the business of selling domains, not listening to people blaming them for their own mistakes... that's why they have sales landers and direct telephone lines, rather than a facebook account. I don't really see the value in a business like that having a facebook account, domain names aren't sold by posting fluffy cat memes.

Just learn from it. Why not start by registering your new domain for 5 years, so we don't see you again next year.

 

[I Heart Noise]

Did I upset you?

I'm sorry, I really am - I didn't mean to attack your favorite resellers. I'm terribly sorry that its such a touchy subject for you. I should've known.

 

[DomainGist]

lol, what a bizarre convo

I did not expect that many people to defend Huge Domains while frothing at the mouth - they must pay their lawyers well

Well you have done the equivalent of walking into a bar to preach about the perils and sins of alcohol.

 

[I Heart Noise]

Yeah, I had another domain for 4 years.

But thanks for taking care of me anyway - that was very nice of you, giving advice when none is needed. I appreciate it - I really do, since this is what forums are for in the end