discuss Post ideas why you have not invested into 4 letter .net-s

[domeen]

Ok, there are so many 4 letter .net lover threads out there.

Lets discuss why its a bad idea nad waste of money.

I start.

1) there is no end-user demand for them

 

[Apprich]

I know a few.

How many you know few ?? how do you make conclusion just from few?

 

[domeen]

2-3 first name basis

 

[Apprich]

2-3 first name basis

haha, it's believed that people usually make big generalization when they know 2-3 people... It's so true you just know 2-3 people from nation of 1,300.000.000 people.. And you make generalization of whole Chinese investors.. Good luck to you in your life my friend..

 

[domeen]

haha, it's believed that people usually make big generalization when they know 2-3 people... It's so true you just know 2-3 people from nation of 1,300.000.000 people.. And you make generalization of whole Chinese investors.. Good luck to you in your life my friend..

you know more, I am sure

 

[domeen]

Just check the results of poll in the thread.

its actually not that bad. I see that there is still hope for some guys.

 

[domeen]

22.) what new startups think of .net?
even here, 103 newly found startups.
http://dngeek.com/2015/11/103-newly...omain-names-privacy-com-uptake-com-modsy-com/
1 is using .net

 

[Apprich]

22.) what new startups think of .net?
even here, 103 newly found startups.
http://dngeek.com/2015/11/103-newly...omain-names-privacy-com-uptake-com-modsy-com/
1 is using .net

Are these all in USA? how about other countries? there are 7 billion people living on earth..
And also you say startup companies, what kind of startup company starts with $50,000,000 budget.. If they are rich startup then easily buy .com for $10,000.. But again you make generalization based on very short of data.. and you see the things in the way you wanted to see.

 

[domeen]

Are these all in USA? how about other countries? there are 7 billion people living on earth..
And also you say startup companies, what kind of startup company starts with $50,000,000 budget.. If they are rich startup then easily buy .com for $10,000.. But again you make generalization based on very short of data.. and you see the things in the way you wanted to see.

why do You think thats any different outside US?

 

[Apprich]

why do You think thats any different outside US?

Yeah this is the exactly my point.. Why do you think thats same outside of US?

You see.. you have western mindset which does not help you to understand eastern culture. You are thinking like nobody wouldn't buy anything except .com domains or build a business on other extension. Since started following Chinese forums started seeing many difference, they have definitely different way of thinking.. And they have their own way of doing things than western people..

simple examples...
4.cn , 22.cn , chaomi.cc ever thought you would build website on number domain or on .cc domain?
I believe most of us thought .cc domain is trash for bin for many years. But it's very popular in China..
And now chinese LLLL.cc domains are being registered and people started trading them.

You should accept things are changing and either you adapt or stay outside of the picture..

 

[Apprich]

And i don't want to waste my time with your obsolete questions.. Things are changed now.. You can try to influence on people with your old fashion ideas.. But you can not stop change happening now..

 

[domeen]

I don`t agree. People still are the same.

 

[domeen]

poll shows some good signs that we are not lost.

 

[domeen]

And I don´t know why you doubt in me. I have no motive to push the prices up or down. I am just saying what I have learned over the years. No other motive. I have made enough money. You in other hand are deep into credit card dept and have a lot of 4 letter .nets, that noone actually wants. I remember when I first started I learned a lot in forums and listened everything the older/wiser guys had to say. This days you and some other guys, join forum, start doimainig (register 4 letter .nets) and think thats so easy.
if you are still next year round here, I will give you a medal.

 

[pablohc86]

Can you kindly team me why the 2008 LLLL.com buyout end in a bubble burst?
I was not here those years and those forums have more than 100pages.
Please do not reply with only no enduser.
Thanks

 

[NPer]

Can you kindly team me why the 2008 LLLL.com buyout end in a bubble burst?
I was not here those years and those forums have more than 100pages.
Please do not reply with only no enduser.
Thanks

That was a price bubble-but the buyout held, mainly because the registrations of LLLL.com occurred over a longer period of time.

With LLLL.net these registration are over recent months. The last 20-25% of registrations, i.e. over 100k happned in less than than a week-according to a post I read. So the LLLL.net bubble when it pops, will result in a rude price drop, and the buyout not holding at all. This is pure hype.

It reminds me of when a Chinese guy back in January 2012 reg'd the bulk of the LLL.co left at the time... that was thousands. People here were celebrating saying the prices are going to go up, etc, etc. It never held-he dropped them after 12 months. 2015 there were still LLL.co to reg. And here we are talking of something which have held much more easily because of only 17.5k combinations, but didn't.

Something similar happened now with LLLL.net when one registrant reg'd 30k LLLL.net in one shot. Either he gets rid of them, or drops them. Also, the timeframe for this LLLL.net buyout is ridiculously short, not like LLLL.com buyout which occurred over years.

 

[DomainVP]

.NET's will not be purchased by me. I own 1 4L .Net and that's because I own the matching 4L.com that has 60k+ monthly searches.

Threads like this are entertaining to read, but unnecessary. Everyone pretty much watches the 4L.net "countdown" thread and just laughs at it.

 

[domeen]

Can you kindly team me why the 2008 LLLL.com buyout end in a bubble burst?
I was not here those years and those forums have more than 100pages.
Please do not reply with only no enduser.
Thanks

why? because then also there where a lot guys buying into them, they didn`t know how hard its actually sell domains. I would say its lack of knowledge.

a lot money + stupidity = bubble that will eventually burst.

currently there is a lot money, and the bubble can go on. I don´t know when it will burst. if Chinese will start investing into something else. Now they can have 2 kids. In Shanghai there is realestate bubble since 2003, no signs of cooling.
I would say, if some Chinese law will be changed or they just get bored of domains.
Or if stock market in China will be attractive again.

 

[domeen]

I mean when I started, I worked 4-6 hours day with drop lists. I scanned them, looked for hidden gems.
I had to be better then others. I didn`t have the money to compete with others on bidding wars.
I invested every penny I got from selling domains/ PPC. Every night bidding wars at snapnames/namewinner. 10 years or so. Now some idiot says I have lost my "know how", I don´t know how to make money. He is investing with credit card to 4 letter .net-s. Says he is the new domain King. Thats a joke. thats nothing more.
I tell them, guys model like this dosen`t work. Its a bubble. They laugh say that China is investing, China needs domain names. My GOD.

I say to all the lovers it will end bad for you and your mother next door. You will have to eat apples for years after this.

 

[DomainVP]

Says he is the new domain King

Who is that?

 

[DOMAIN ILLUMINATI]

'...why you have not invested into 4 letter .net-s?'

Because I have invested into 63 letter .TOP 's.

 

[pablohc86]

I mean when I started, I worked 4-6 hours day with drop lists. I scanned them, looked for hidden gems.
I had to be better then others. I didn`t have the money to compete with others on bidding wars.
I invested every penny I got from selling domains/ PPC. Every night bidding wars at snapnames/namewinner. 10 years or so. Now some idiot says I have lost my "know how", I don´t know how to make money. He is investing with credit card to 4 letter .net-s. Says he is the new domain King. Thats a joke. thats nothing more.
I tell them, guys model like this dosen`t work. Its a bubble. They laugh say that China is investing, China needs domain names. My GOD.

I say to all the lovers it will end bad for you and your mother next door. You will have to eat apples for years after this.

thanks for the reply.
How much time from the buyout the bubble explode for the past events (LLL.co and the 2007 dot com)?
i can guess at the first renewal date..

What happened?
fall in prices in few months or go to low level in a week or so?

 

[djum]

Something similar happened now with LLLL.net when one registrant reg'd 30k LLLL.net in one shot. Either he gets rid of them, or drops them.

He, who registered 30K Chinese LLLL.net is big investment company that owns over 300000 domains, who plans on keeping them for at least 5 years.
You would know this already, if get out from under the rock where you spent last year more often.
What are the chances that people who professionally invest in domains will drop 30K domains that retail for $160-180 each? Why would they do it? Drop 5 mln.USD, yeah right.

About 100K of LLLL.net we still have to see what happens, but from what I saw people who were taking them are not small investors either. I will look more into the data and figure it out.

 

[NPer]

thanks for the reply.
How much time from the buyout the bubble explode for the past events (LLL.co and the 2007 dot com)?
i can guess at the first renewal date..

What happened?
fall in prices in few months or go to low level in a week or so?

With .com-they didn't know how hard it was to sell above the price levels they bought at as @domeen said. So when renewals came, they began to dump at reg fee and lower.

With LLL.co- the prices fell within 6 months of the buyout as the anniversary period was around then. Prices dropped to low as $1 two weeks before expiry... that is after they spent minimum $60 per name-sometimes $100s when they bought them from other domainers. By September/October 2012 onwards 100s and then 1000s were available. January 2013, the Chinese buyer dropped the 1000s he reg'd- and that's how LLL.co ended. To put things into perspective, "triple premium" domains were available to reg.

He, who registered 30K Chinese LLLL.net is big investment company that owns over 300000 domains, who plans on keeping them for at least 5 years.

Good luck with that.

 

[dnk]

There are some risks of investing in .com domains, which people are not aware of especially in India. So these people are investing in .net domain names.

 

[NPer]

There are some risks of investing in .com domains, which people are not aware of especially in India. So these people are investing in .net domain names.

Really? Why is that?