Examiner.com gets renewed will GoDaddy ever fix their auctions?

[equity78]

Well it looks like Examiner.com got renewed, the auction was over $131,000 and earlier today the name got renewed. While typing in Examiner.com I get a security warning. Whois updated Registrant Name: Domain Manager Registrant Organization: Axs Digital Media Group, LLC Registrant Address: Co, US Creation Date: September 13, 1994 Update Date: October 30, 2019 […]

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[Lethal Squirrel]

I believe that registrars should not be allowed to profit from expired domains. How’s that for an opinion?!

Agreed. It's all a bit dubious. There's a big conflict of interests there. If an expired domain goes to auction I think the old owner should get 80-90% of the cut, even if they did forget to renew/were in coma/whatever, if they can be traced, the registrar the remainder to make it worth their while.

 

[equity78]

Agreed. It's all a bit dubious. There's a big conflict of interests there. If an expired domain goes to auction I think the old owner should get 80-90% of the cut, even if they did forget to renew/were in coma/whatever, if they can be traced, the registrar the remainder to make it worth their while.

This has been discussed many a time, there is no regulation in place for the old owner to receive anything. A couple registrars do give something, but they don't have the platform GoDaddy does.

 

[equity78]

The Examiner story seems to keep getting stranger!

More generally, I don't understand why auctions start before it is too late to renew. It just wastes people time, leads to confusion, which makes the domain industry look bad. I know I am not alone in saying this, but I have never understood why they don't simply wait a few more days so in all cases it is too late to renew. What do they lose by waiting to auction?

Bob

I would love for @Paul Nicks to spell that out, I believe there are some technical reasons, the names that sell for big money GoDaddy knows would get bids, but I think the ones that only get one would be a risk but I am not sure.

 

[Soofi]

Agree, it just looks bad because they have lost a lot of trust in the product.

I barely participate (only if I have to) in their auctions due to such instances and often occurrences.

 

[Keith]

How was it renewed? I thought once an expired auction started it was too late at that point. The domain is registered at godaddy as well.

 

[CatchDeleted]

Almost 20-30% of domains that we bid gets renewed !..We get a bland cancellation email..

 

[D Haynes]

That is not my understanding. I believe the new rule is, once an expired domain receives a bid, it’s not renewable @Joe Styler

This was my understanding too. I'm sure I remember a big thing about it with emails being sent out to explain it etc.

I believe that registrars should not be allowed to profit from expired domains. How’s that for an opinion?!

I agree.

 

[Keith]

Here was the back and forth last night

Paul tweeted again when I asked can it be renewed:

Not sure how many days post expiry it is, but if its after 30, then not without extenuating circumstances.

I replied:

No Paul this one is weird created because the expiry and create are not in unison Creation Date: September 13, 1994 Expires: October 2, 2020 But it's not 30 days yet. What would extenuating circumstances be if it were 30 days after?



Now Paul replied

Cant enumerate all possible issues that could come up (death or other hardships as an example). I'm not a fan of zero-tolerance policies; there should always be room for nuance.

To which I replied

Jane Both's daughter has a different story on your policies https://www.thedomains.com/2018/01/22/lady-responsible-blockchain-names-idea-godaddy/#comment-231424 She roasted GoDaddy

So someone who controls examiner.com died? Otherwise there aren’t extenuating circumstances and allowing a renewal is bad business.

 

[equity78]

Little correction.

Auction start date is approximately 24th day..

You may have 6 days approximately after auction start to look for owner.

Thanks

I believe it's 26

 

[TERADOMAIN]

I believe it's 26

Vomit.com expired on October 6th.

Its confusing sometimes. 24th to 26th day. Hard to understand sometimes.

Thanks

 

[equity78]

I built my portfolio on this model, well before people caught on. Then godaddy tried to say I was circumventing the auction process. Now that it’s clear in the rule book, I’ll go after newly expired domains all day.

Oh sure, I knew guys who had teams a decade ago, GoDaddy will still ban if they find out and reading the forum might not be a help because they will be looking out for people.

 

[equity78]

Yes, my auction standings are good. They were 100% wrong in that case btw. They accused me of circumventing an auction that I did not bid in. Go figure...

Oh that's good, and yes you do have to wonder what do they think they are standing on? The domain doesn't belong to them, and let's be honest someone could not be a customer and do this all the time, they have no means against anyone like that.

 

[Name Trader]

No it's not and Paul Nicks even said it last night on Twitter. He said it could even be renewed after 30 days if extenuating circumstances.

But did he explain what the extenuating circumstances are? I'm sure they wouldn't apply to me

 

[Recons.Com]

Probably someone contacted the owners/ admins, offered fraction of the auction amount for renewal and transfer.

 

[Name Trader]

Yes Stub

Now Paul replied

Cant enumerate all possible issues that could come up (death or other hardships as an example). I'm not a fan of zero-tolerance policies; there should always be room for nuance.

To which I replied

Jane Both's daughter has a different story on your policies https://www.thedomains.com/2018/01/22/lady-responsible-blockchain-names-idea-godaddy/#comment-231424 She roasted GoDaddy

Except in the case of Jane Pantalone’s daughter. GoDaddy just make these things up as they go along. Outrageous. What chance do we have? Zero to none is my guess.

It took over a month to resolve them closing my account without reason, or because I followed the instructions of my account manager. It was touch and go. I had to appeal their decision 4 times, before it went my way. Luckily none of my 360 domains were close to expiring. I don't think I would have been given any leeway in this situation.

I think the only way to handle these situations would be to appeal to @Paul Nicks, personally. At least then he cannot complain that he didn't know.

 

[Recons.Com]

Did someone from GD respond about JP's daughter's allegations that they went through the whole process as required and still were denied the access to the account? And why she just did not give them password to the account and the phone associated with the account. That is all you need for true access, right?

 

[wwwweb]

Did someone from GD respond about JP's daughter's allegations that they went through the whole process as required and still were denied the access to the account? And why she just did not give them password to the account and the phone associated with the account. That is all you need for true access, right?

The son actually had access to the account, and was able to renew some of the domains, but the ones that had gone to auction he could not recover as he stated on namepros. Ironically enough they live in Phoenix also.

 

[Recons.Com]

The son actually had access to the account, and was able to renew some of the domains, but the ones that had gone to auction he could not recover as he stated on namepros. Ironically enough they live in Phoenix also.

So why he did not renew the ones that went to auction? That makes no sense, sorry.

 

[wwwweb]

I was told once a domain has a bid it can’t be recovered by the original owner.

I learned find first hand as I purchased a name, and forgot to set auto renew, it went in auction, had a bid, so I had to outbid Huge Domains a few hundred bucks to win it back, instead of paying $90 redemption fee.

However this corporation which is most likely an it guy forgot, or their cc expired was able to rescue it?

 

[DanSanchez]

So why he did not renew the ones that went to auction? That makes no sense, sorry.

Because godaddy purposefully "disappears" them from your account and support is trained to deny you the right to renew them. It's a sham and a risk to work with Gocrappy.

 

[wwwweb]

So why he did not renew the ones that went to auction? That makes no sense, sorry.

The platform does not let you redeem domains once the name has bids in auction, you need to get management to manually do it.

 

[Recons.Com]

The platform does not let you redeem domains once the name has bids in auction, you need to get management to manually do it.

So he did not go to his account in time? That again does not match the daughter's story that they did not have access to the account.

 

[Recons.Com]

Because godaddy purposefully "disappears" them from your account and support is trained to deny you the right to renew them. It's a sham and a risk to work with Gocrappy.

This is not what they have claimed, is it?

 

[wwwweb]

So he did not go to his account in time? That again does not match the daughter's story that they did not have access to the account.

Actually I don’t know if he got into the account, he stated he was able to stop the ones remaining to going into auction.
https://www.namepros.com/threads/so...ng-like-hot-cakes.1060298/page-4#post-6533503

 

[ideacipta]

I monitor the progress of the auction.

I just found out that Godaddy can refund