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I've connected multiple dots, for example: [Domain expired - Backordered - Internal conflicts - BANK Involvement - Account closed - Money problems - Politics and many more.]
Why do you think any domainer would go after such an expensive domain for $167,000?
Here, that's not the point, and I would rather not dwell on it. The main point is completely different. However, I will answer this question and share my opinion with some supporting documents at the very end of this discussion.
Okay, let's cover the main point!
Before I start, let me give you some background: how and why?
A few days ago (I think August 18 or 19), I was searching/studying some expired domain names. Everything was going well, and I visited multiple websites, including GoDaddy, through a website called [expired.net]. I just wanted to see what was going on there or everywhere. I noticed mana.org was at the top with (I guess multiple bidders and an amount of $50k++), and I wasn't shocked since it's normal for people who are in the SEO game to buy expired domains. They don't blindly bid; instead, they know the magic of expired domains, their budget, limits, and how to recover their investment by bringing in solid traffic through guest posting or selling backlinks on their blogs. They don't care whether the domain name is brandable or not. They know what they are doing and why. They also know how to recover their money/investment with solid strategies.
But again, that's not the point.
Today, as usual, I was just randomly browsing NamePros' news section and found an article created by @equity78 about mana.org being sold for $167,000. I also visited his website and read the complete article there, and then I returned to NamePros to read other comments on that post.
I still wasn't in shock and found some interesting logic in the comment sections. I also wanted to share my opinion about expired domains and backorders with some statistics on that post, as I mentioned earlier, which was created by @equity78. Since I wasn't aware of MANA, I checked what it was and found "Midwives Alliance of North America," founded in April 1982 and having a solid internet presence for two decades.
One thing triggered in my mind: This is a solid organization with a solid internet presence. Something must have happened to this organization. No one leaves such a solid internet presence without a reason.
I also noted that this website (mana.org) is an organization, and earlier (.ORG) was only for non-profitable organizations. This two-decade-old (mana.org) organization was founded in 1982 and was doing well over the internet with many .gov backlinks.
That's where my mind said, "Something must have happened. Let's find out!"
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Yes!
I think this domain was bought by themselves (mana.org). I am explaining now step by step with supporting documents.
Now, two questions may arise in your mind.
First, expired domain auctions are only open to those who already backordered it.
And second, why would mana.org backorder their own domain? They could have renewed it. Because, as per the domain life cycle, if its current owner does not renew it by its expiration date, the domain name then undergoes a forty-day grace period + redemption period, totaling approximately 70 days. Still, the current owner could renew their registration with more expensive renewal fees or any penalties.
Yes, you are absolutely right!
And my answer is very simple. Let me ask you one more question. If you were the owner of a 20+ year-old (mana.org) and went through bad situations or your bank closed your account or your website was shut down because of someone's mistake or any other reason, what steps/actions would you have taken to get it back?
See, no one lets it go very easily; it takes time and effort to build a reputation. We try every possible option to get our property back, using our contacts, requesting others, presenting our point and supporting documents as proof. One does whatever it takes to reclaim it.
Similarly, I think mana.org contacted GoDaddy's support team and presented their view with proof or in some other way. But I still think it was not bought by any domainer. Maybe I am wrong; this is just my opinion and perspective.
If you still have doubts, let me explain how I reached this point: it was bought by mana.org and not by any domainer.
It's time to connect the dots.
Point #1: I just wanted to check whether mana.org was actually closed by themselves or if something happened to them. To find out, I used my brain and searched this....on google.
"Midwives Alliance of North America Not working"
[Here I wanted to attach screenshots but I could not because while writing this post Media option is not for me since I am New Member, Hence, Not attached.] All my efforts went down and without screenshots this post is nothing in my opinion. Any way I will try my best.]
Hence I would request you try this by yourself.
You can clearly see, through their Facebook page, they informed their members that their website was facing some problems.
I have quoted here.
Here, I gained some confidence and said to myself, "Yes, I am on the right path."
Point #2: Now, I wanted to find out whether anything else was publicly shared with their members before 4-5 months. To check this, I used web archive history and visited their web history and found nothing. Again, I went to their Facebook page and started to search for more data and finally found some important documents that are publicly available.
[ Again, Here I wanted to attach screenshots but I could not because while writing this post Media option is not for me since I am New Member, Hence, Not attached.] All my efforts went down and without screenshots this post is nothing in my opinion. Anyway I will try my best.]
After reading these supporting documents, I was 100% sure that they were facing some internal problems, and this organization is still alive.
Again I quote,
Now, to understand Bank's role in this matter and many other things, you need to visit their official Facebook page. There you can access more data. Please take little efforts to read those documents. [ I already screenshotted many other things but unable to post here, due to new member has some limitations.]
Any way I quote here few things AS PER THEIR DOCUMENTS,
[Now to understand FAM's role. You need to visit their FB page and read all docs. Soon you will understand the actual matter.]
Technically,
As per Domain life cycle, a forty-day grace period + 30 day redemption period, totaling approximately 70 days.
As per Documents, Bank account was frozen in month of MAY. May be their domain expiration timeline falls at same time (plus minus), If you calculate all happenings since , approx.: June 30 + July 30 + August 10 = 70 days and Auction was ended recently in August.
What do you think???
That's why I think it was bought by themselves.
The next question that may arise in our minds is, "Why didn't GoDaddy cancel this auction and inform other bidders about this situation?"
I am not sure, but I can guess. I think it would have damaged their reputation among regular customers, and the only legitimate way, in my opinion, was to allow the real owner to bid. This way, all domainers might have given up, and ultimately, the real owner/organization secured their property and learned a $167,000 worth lesson.
That's all I wanted to share with you.
If namePros allows me then I would be happy to attach all screenshots.
I repeat without any screenshots This article and my efforts are wasted. Anyway I will continue!
===========================================================================================
Now let me share my opinion/answer to the first question, which was asked at the beginning:
"Why do you think any domainer would go after such an expensive domain for $167,000?"
To answer this question, I visited many websites and took proper screenshots and highlighted many other things. Unfortunately, All my time and efforts wasted. Since, I was not aware that I won't be able to attach any documents over here. So, This article has lost his originality. And I am Sorry for that, Nothing is in my hands! Still trying my worst/best.
Back to the topic!
The answer is simple.
Generally, finding such a quality domain is not an easy task. It takes time and effort. We regularly need to keep track of the status and progress of the expired domain name.
Let's study mana.org and why this domain name is so special.
Just search it on google, site:mana.org
About 667 results. It means 667 indexed pages.
Look at the Quality backlinks.
Multiple .gov (Government) backlinks with 90+ Domain Authority.
Backlinks from big well known platforms,
For example:
usatoday . com
nytimes . com DA-95.
the guardian . com DA- 95.
Medium . com DA-95
wikipedia . com DA-96
bit . l y DA-94
washingtonpost . com DA-94
healthline . com DA-92.
etc. Can't list anymore. 2.0k+
27 years old and active site.
High DA-PA, solid and powerful backlinks from governments and other big platforms.
High CPC and a quality niche, i.e., healthcare and insurance.
Short and easy to remember name, i.e., mana.org.
With quality content and proper strategy, it can bring a lot more traffic.
$167,000 - (minus) any monthly earned amount through ads or backlinks or sponsored = will reduce down the buying cost and soon will start generating profits.
Or, I think the buyer may be aware that mana.org was facing problems, and if any bidder gets it, they may get a higher amount than what they have paid to acquire this domain.
That's all I wanted to say.
I did this little research just for educational purposes only.
Maybe I am completely right, or half right, or completely wrong.
What do you think about it?
Here, many namePros members have their own reputed websites and cover domain-related daily news, sale reports, etc. If they use their contacts or resources, many things can be discovered and would be a very good educational lesson for everyone including our domain community.
Big Thank you for your time and attention!!! And sorry if I wasted your time by any chance by writing such a huge article.
Why do you think any domainer would go after such an expensive domain for $167,000?
Here, that's not the point, and I would rather not dwell on it. The main point is completely different. However, I will answer this question and share my opinion with some supporting documents at the very end of this discussion.
Okay, let's cover the main point!
Before I start, let me give you some background: how and why?
A few days ago (I think August 18 or 19), I was searching/studying some expired domain names. Everything was going well, and I visited multiple websites, including GoDaddy, through a website called [expired.net]. I just wanted to see what was going on there or everywhere. I noticed mana.org was at the top with (I guess multiple bidders and an amount of $50k++), and I wasn't shocked since it's normal for people who are in the SEO game to buy expired domains. They don't blindly bid; instead, they know the magic of expired domains, their budget, limits, and how to recover their investment by bringing in solid traffic through guest posting or selling backlinks on their blogs. They don't care whether the domain name is brandable or not. They know what they are doing and why. They also know how to recover their money/investment with solid strategies.
But again, that's not the point.
Today, as usual, I was just randomly browsing NamePros' news section and found an article created by @equity78 about mana.org being sold for $167,000. I also visited his website and read the complete article there, and then I returned to NamePros to read other comments on that post.
I still wasn't in shock and found some interesting logic in the comment sections. I also wanted to share my opinion about expired domains and backorders with some statistics on that post, as I mentioned earlier, which was created by @equity78. Since I wasn't aware of MANA, I checked what it was and found "Midwives Alliance of North America," founded in April 1982 and having a solid internet presence for two decades.
One thing triggered in my mind: This is a solid organization with a solid internet presence. Something must have happened to this organization. No one leaves such a solid internet presence without a reason.
I also noted that this website (mana.org) is an organization, and earlier (.ORG) was only for non-profitable organizations. This two-decade-old (mana.org) organization was founded in 1982 and was doing well over the internet with many .gov backlinks.
That's where my mind said, "Something must have happened. Let's find out!"
===========================================================================================
Yes!
I think this domain was bought by themselves (mana.org). I am explaining now step by step with supporting documents.
Now, two questions may arise in your mind.
First, expired domain auctions are only open to those who already backordered it.
And second, why would mana.org backorder their own domain? They could have renewed it. Because, as per the domain life cycle, if its current owner does not renew it by its expiration date, the domain name then undergoes a forty-day grace period + redemption period, totaling approximately 70 days. Still, the current owner could renew their registration with more expensive renewal fees or any penalties.
Yes, you are absolutely right!
And my answer is very simple. Let me ask you one more question. If you were the owner of a 20+ year-old (mana.org) and went through bad situations or your bank closed your account or your website was shut down because of someone's mistake or any other reason, what steps/actions would you have taken to get it back?
See, no one lets it go very easily; it takes time and effort to build a reputation. We try every possible option to get our property back, using our contacts, requesting others, presenting our point and supporting documents as proof. One does whatever it takes to reclaim it.
Similarly, I think mana.org contacted GoDaddy's support team and presented their view with proof or in some other way. But I still think it was not bought by any domainer. Maybe I am wrong; this is just my opinion and perspective.
If you still have doubts, let me explain how I reached this point: it was bought by mana.org and not by any domainer.
It's time to connect the dots.
Point #1: I just wanted to check whether mana.org was actually closed by themselves or if something happened to them. To find out, I used my brain and searched this....on google.
"Midwives Alliance of North America Not working"
[Here I wanted to attach screenshots but I could not because while writing this post Media option is not for me since I am New Member, Hence, Not attached.] All my efforts went down and without screenshots this post is nothing in my opinion. Any way I will try my best.]
Hence I would request you try this by yourself.
You can clearly see, through their Facebook page, they informed their members that their website was facing some problems.
I have quoted here.
2 August at 20:45
We are aware that our website is experiencing technical difficulties. We are working on it with the web developer and hopefully it will be up and running here shortly!
Here, I gained some confidence and said to myself, "Yes, I am on the right path."
Point #2: Now, I wanted to find out whether anything else was publicly shared with their members before 4-5 months. To check this, I used web archive history and visited their web history and found nothing. Again, I went to their Facebook page and started to search for more data and finally found some important documents that are publicly available.
[ Again, Here I wanted to attach screenshots but I could not because while writing this post Media option is not for me since I am New Member, Hence, Not attached.] All my efforts went down and without screenshots this post is nothing in my opinion. Anyway I will try my best.]
After reading these supporting documents, I was 100% sure that they were facing some internal problems, and this organization is still alive.
Again I quote,
Now, to understand Bank's role in this matter and many other things, you need to visit their official Facebook page. There you can access more data. Please take little efforts to read those documents. [ I already screenshotted many other things but unable to post here, due to new member has some limitations.]
Any way I quote here few things AS PER THEIR DOCUMENTS,
[Now to understand FAM's role. You need to visit their FB page and read all docs. Soon you will understand the actual matter.]
Technically,
As per Domain life cycle, a forty-day grace period + 30 day redemption period, totaling approximately 70 days.
As per Documents, Bank account was frozen in month of MAY. May be their domain expiration timeline falls at same time (plus minus), If you calculate all happenings since , approx.: June 30 + July 30 + August 10 = 70 days and Auction was ended recently in August.
What do you think???
That's why I think it was bought by themselves.
The next question that may arise in our minds is, "Why didn't GoDaddy cancel this auction and inform other bidders about this situation?"
I am not sure, but I can guess. I think it would have damaged their reputation among regular customers, and the only legitimate way, in my opinion, was to allow the real owner to bid. This way, all domainers might have given up, and ultimately, the real owner/organization secured their property and learned a $167,000 worth lesson.
That's all I wanted to share with you.
If namePros allows me then I would be happy to attach all screenshots.
I repeat without any screenshots This article and my efforts are wasted. Anyway I will continue!
===========================================================================================
Now let me share my opinion/answer to the first question, which was asked at the beginning:
"Why do you think any domainer would go after such an expensive domain for $167,000?"
To answer this question, I visited many websites and took proper screenshots and highlighted many other things. Unfortunately, All my time and efforts wasted. Since, I was not aware that I won't be able to attach any documents over here. So, This article has lost his originality. And I am Sorry for that, Nothing is in my hands! Still trying my worst/best.
Back to the topic!
The answer is simple.
Generally, finding such a quality domain is not an easy task. It takes time and effort. We regularly need to keep track of the status and progress of the expired domain name.
Let's study mana.org and why this domain name is so special.
Just search it on google, site:mana.org
About 667 results. It means 667 indexed pages.
Look at the Quality backlinks.
Multiple .gov (Government) backlinks with 90+ Domain Authority.
Backlinks from big well known platforms,
For example:
usatoday . com
nytimes . com DA-95.
the guardian . com DA- 95.
Medium . com DA-95
wikipedia . com DA-96
bit . l y DA-94
washingtonpost . com DA-94
healthline . com DA-92.
etc. Can't list anymore. 2.0k+
27 years old and active site.High DA-PA, solid and powerful backlinks from governments and other big platforms.High CPC and a quality niche, i.e., healthcare and insurance.Short and easy to remember name, i.e., mana.org.With quality content and proper strategy, it can bring a lot more traffic.$167,000 - (minus) any monthly earned amount through ads or backlinks or sponsored = will reduce down the buying cost and soon will start generating profits.Or, I think the buyer may be aware that mana.org was facing problems, and if any bidder gets it, they may get a higher amount than what they have paid to acquire this domain.That's all I wanted to say.
I did this little research just for educational purposes only.
Maybe I am completely right, or half right, or completely wrong.
What do you think about it?
Here, many namePros members have their own reputed websites and cover domain-related daily news, sale reports, etc. If they use their contacts or resources, many things can be discovered and would be a very good educational lesson for everyone including our domain community.
Big Thank you for your time and attention!!! And sorry if I wasted your time by any chance by writing such a huge article.
