.mobi Companies.mobi at Sedo $3,000

[hedgefund]

Not mine, but just found out:

http://www.sedo.com/auction/auction_detail.php?language=us&auction_id=10213&tracked=&partnerid=

 

[jeremyp]

Jeremy, I'm sorry my friend but you are waaayyyyyy off base with this. Jeff made no claim about anything. Here merely hinted to the possibility period of funny business. The word shil was never mentioned.

The bottom line - don't make potentially tortious allegations or "humble opinions" about the validity of an auction unless you have significant reason to believe it is problematic.

Thats the most rediculous statement I've ever read on these forums Jeremy, you cant be serious


Please drop it already!

HasRob,

You've blown my mind.

1) Where did I say Jeff said "shill" above? Find it.

2) Saying that one should hold potentially damaging allegations about the validity of an auction that could impact an auction unless one has some significant reason to believe it's actually fraudulent is the most ridiculous statement you've ever read?

What in world am I dealing with here?

I've said my peace.

Jeremy

 

[scandiman]

Thats the most rediculous statement I've ever read on these forums Jeremy, you cant be serious

:tri: :tri: Wow, I would hardly consider the pursuit of industry professionalism as being ridiculous. But ultimately we are all entitled to our opinions.

 

[Damion]

Jeremy, I'm sorry my friend but you are waaayyyyyy off base with this. Jeff made no claim about anything. Here merely hinted to the possibility period of funny business. The word shil was never mentioned.

I agree with you Rob that Jeff made no claim about anything.
But the possibility of shill bidding is what he referred to or at least that is what i concluded from it.

Domains on action and "Funny Business" can only mean one thing right? - so let us not beat around the bush and call it what it is

With that said his post was not a direct implication towards the seller as we both agree on

 

[Broker]

HasRob,

You've blown my mind.

1) Where did I say Jeff said "shill" above? Find it.

2) Saying that one should hold potentially damaging allegations about the validity of an auction that could impact an auction unless one has some significant reason to believe it's actually fraudulent is the most ridiculous statement you've ever read?

What in world am I dealing with here?

I've said my peace.

Jeremy

I never said you said anything #1

#2 Allegations? Show me please, pretty please. All I see is a humble opinion that Jeff is indeed entitled express. And you demand he or everyone here not express their right to speak about the possibility of something that may or may not be fishy in order to protect fellow domainers? I've read alot about you Jeremy and I respect your position in this business, but who in the heck do you think you are with such demands and allegations yourself?

Fraudulent auction? Where were those exact words mentioned in Jeff's post? They were not mentioned period. Again, possibility-funny business!!!!!!!

Bottom line is, Jeff didnt accuse anyone of anything like you and a few others have done in this thread. You are in the wrong here, not Jeff.

Yes I'm accusing you of being wrong, sue me!

:loveyou:

 

[-REECE-]

reece, like you, i have never liked the .tv extension either, i have no interest in it, i would never invest in it...... but it has never _once_ occurred to me to go over there to hang out and tell everyone what d**mb f**cks they are for investing in that tld ... i got better things to do .... plus ...it's rude

in other respects this such a great board ....wtf ??!!

I think the main reason we see this is because of what's at stake. Let's face it, if .mobi becomes the mobile web standard, it will seriously displace most extensions. I.e. Would you pay $300,000 for realestate.net or $300,000 for realestate.mobi if it were guaranteed to be the "mobile dotcom"? With that in mind, many sales, like realestate.mobi, could be considered bargains in light of their future potential should dotmobi become the mobile standard.

That's my main belief on why prices are all over the place, as well as the fact that there are far more skeptics about .mobi than you will find in any other extension.

However, ask yourself... When has there ever been more at stake? There's the potential for .mobi to achieve greatness... IMO, should that happen, we'll see dotcoms devalued moderately (I'd say in the vicinity of 20-30%) as we see more domainers interested in capitalizing on the bargains still to be had on the mobile internet. Likewise, would you ever buy a .info, .net, .biz if you knew that .mobi was going to fly sky-high?

Because so much is at stake, we have to put up with far more $hit than other extensions -- rightfully so. Likewise, because of the substantial stakes many of us have invested in .mobi and many of us are contemplating investing, many of us (myself included) hold them up to a higher standard than other tld's such as .biz, .info, and .net.

Fraudulent auction? Where were those exact words mentioned in Jeff's post? They were not mentioned period. Again, possibility-funny business!!!!!!!

Bottom line is, Jeff didnt accuse anyone of anything like you and a few others have done in this thread. You are in the wrong here, not Jeff.

Yes I'm accusing you of being wrong, sue me!

:loveyou:

Jeremy never even mentioned Jeff's name until he was accused of accusing Jeff. It would be nice if we could all get on with the discussion in a sensible manner.

 

[jeremyp]

I never said you said anything #1

#2 Allegations? Show me please, pretty please. All I see is a humble opinion that Jeff is indeed entitled express. And you demand he or everyone here not express their right to speak about the possibility of something that may or may not be fishy in order to protect fellow domainers? I've read alot about you Jeremy and I respect your position in this business, but who in the heck do you think you are with such demands and allegations yourself?

Fraudulent auction? Where were those exact words mentioned in Jeff's post? They were not mentioned period. Again, possibility-funny business!!!!!!!

Bottom line is, Jeff didnt accuse anyone of anything like you and a few others have done in this thread. You are in the wrong here, not Jeff.

Yes I'm accusing you of being wrong, sue me!

:loveyou:

What does "Funny Business" mean to you, HasRob?

Let me tell you who I think I am. I am simply a guy who is pointing out that we need to be more careful in what we allege against those transacting in a binding contract.

If anything, I'm helping Jeff avoid future problems.

Go ahead... have a "humble opinion" or point out "funny business" to a serious businessperson the next time he or she is transacting a deal and then act as if it's not a serious issue.

Good grief.

 

[GeoOwners]

Jeff didnt accuse anyone of anything

how would you define "funny business"? I'm just curious...thanks.

.

 

[Broker]

What does "Funny Business" mean to you, HasRob?

Let me tell you who I think I am. I am simply a guy who is pointing out that we need to be more careful in what we allege against those transacting in a binding contract.

If anything, I'm helping Jeff avoid future problems.

Go ahead... have a "humble opinion" or point out "funny business" to a serious businessperson the next time he or she is transacting a deal and then act as if it's not a serious issue.

Good grief.

It honestly doesnt matter what I think funny business is. We can all read between the lines and past them in his wording and take a hint. But imho, his wording was carefully chosen as to not directly accuse any one person or persons of any perticular wrong doing in any direct contact. Thats all I'm trying to say and I'll end it with that.

 

[-REECE-]

how would you define "funny business"? I'm just curious...thanks.

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I would define "funny business" as perhaps something is going on here. Under no circumstances would I interpret that to mean that the buyer or seller necessarily did anything wrong, merely that perhaps there is more to it than meets the eye. In no way is that statement accusing one party or the other. If I watch as ebay auction and say "Something funny is going on with that one," does that mean that something "funny" is being done by the seller, or something "funny" is being done by the buyer?

No, it means that I can't get to the bottom of what is going on, but it seems out of the ordinary... Out of the ordinary does not necessarily imply wrongdoing on the part of anyone.

 

[garrett200]

The question wasn't directed at me, but I'll chime in.

"Funny business" could mean any type of manipulation of the auction; by seller, buyer, buyer and seller, the auction house, or a few other reasons. In short, it could mean a variety of things (any one of them not good).

From the looks of it, Jeff was expressing his opinion that there MIGHT be "funny business" because he doesn't think the domain is worth that much, and he probably thinks that no reasonable end user or domainer would pay such a price at this point. That's typical of him - just look at all of his "0.00 +/- reg fee" appraisals.

That's what I gathered from his comment. Nothing more, nothing less.

I won't mention any names, but the paranoia in here is downright unfounded at times. I know all of us are a little concerned about the future of .mobi given recent events, or rather lack of events occuring, but it's just not fair to take it out on one guy giving his opinion about one sale. Incidentally, a sale that is a drop in the bucket as far as .mobi is concerned.

 

[Broker]

Well said Reece.

Uhmmmmmmm where is Jeff anyway? :bingo:


It's all the OP's fault

 

[garrett200]

Well said Reece.

Uhmmmmmmm where is Jeff anyway?

Probably visiting the conspiracy theory forums on myspace along with half the others here. :bingo:

 

[scandiman]

From the looks of it, Jeff was expressing his opinion that there MIGHT be "funny business" because he doesn't think the domain is worth that much, and he probably thinks that no reasonable end user or domainer would pay such a price at this point.

In the plural, I don't think it's worth nearly that amount, in my view .... and with one only one bid, one must consider the possibility that it may be more of this "funny business" with .MOBI's using the Sedo auction systyem, IMHO.

True, he doesn't think it is worth that amount (no surprise there), but then concludes from the fact that there is one bid that we MUST consider the possibility of "funny business"...

Using that logic, every single auction at Sedo should be considered with the possibility of "funny business" since they all at one point in time had only one bid.

Jeff, your in for a doozer when you finally log back in.

 

[nombre]

From the looks of it, Jeff was expressing his opinion that there MIGHT be "funny business" because he doesn't think the domain is worth that much, and he probably thinks that no reasonable end user or domainer would pay such a price at this point. That's typical of him - just look at all of his "0.00 +/- reg fee" appraisals.

ever hear the expression "poison the well" ?

jeff's post was in effect a non-post, it said nothing ...he offered an opinion as to the value of a name, said nothing to back up his opinion, then speculated that there was the "possibility" it was a shill bid ......every bid in every auction could be a shill bid

absent any evidence (which he didn't offer) it's a useless statement and serves only to slander the auction and the extension

... it was a classic example of rumor mongering .... nothing more

a useless post by a guy who spends his days hanging out in the mobi forum only to tell everyone why mobi sucks ....

sorry but that's just the way it is ...

 

[garrett200]

I can sum this all up in one sentence:

Consider the source, and move on to more important things.

 

[Broker]

Fact is, just because a domain has a high first bid doesnt make it fishy. The owner of the name could have a minimum first offer amount of $3,000 or higher. It's up to the potential buyers or viewers of these auctions to determine for themselves/ourselves, if it smells funny.

 

[Jeff]

Oh my ... just getting in now from a long day on the road (and with the IN LAW's of all the things), and this is what / how I'm greeted at my beloved NP's? :blink:
Three years and literally countless hours of community / member assistance and professionalism, as well as sharing my own personal feelings and humble opinions ...

I deeply - my heart is very heavy at this very first blush reading - thank those of you that can see clear of the paranoia, deep-seeded fears and seeming agenda of the very recent Jeff Character Assassination™, IMHO. Clearly, my one (very early in the thread's existence) post here has been misinterpreted by some ... so at this time, I'd simply like to repost it below in its entirety (and I'll check in later tonight once I've had an opportunity to pout and decompress and try to enjoy some dinner with the wifey (and, finally, NO In law's), and then walk the two pupps. Again, thanks VERY very much for the kind words of love and support!

My post:

In the plural, I don't think it's worth nearly that amount, in my view .... and with one only one bid, one must consider the possibility that it may be more of this "funny business" with .MOBI's using the Sedo auction systyem, IMHO. :blink:

Who's selling it at this time? :gl:
Thanks.
-Jeff

See you soon.
-Jeff

 

[jeremyp]

Oh my ... just getting in now from a long day on the road (and with the IN LAW's of all the things), and this is what / how I'm greeted at my beloved NP's? :blink:
Three years and literally countless hours of community / member assistance and professionalism, as well as sharing my own personal feelings and humble opinions ...

I deeply - my heart is very heavy at this very first blush reading - thank those of you that can see clear of the paranoia, deep-seeded fears and seeming agend of the very recent Jeff Character Assassination™, IMHO. Clearly, my one (very early in the thread's existence) post here has been misinterpreted by some ... so at this time, I'd simply like to repost it below in its entirety (and I'll check in later tonight once I've had an opportunity to pout and decompress and try to enjoy some dinner with the wifey (and, finally, NO In law's), and then walk the two pupps. Again, thanks VERY very much for the kind words of love and support!

My post:


See you soon.
-Jeff

Jeff,

You are not a victim.

You must deeply consider the impact of your posts that suggest fraudulent activity in a live transaction.

Be more professional. Be more polite. Be more careful.

Jeremy

 

[mobidick]

ever hear the expression "poison the well" ?

jeff's post was in effect a non-post, it said nothing ...he offered an opinion as to the value of a name, said nothing to back up his opinion, then speculated that there was the "possibility" it was a shill bid ......every bid in every auction could be a shill bid

absent any evidence (which he didn't offer) it's a useless statement and serves only to slander the auction and the extension

... it was a classic example of rumor mongering .... nothing more

a useless post by a guy who spends his days hanging out in the mobi forum only to tell everyone why mobi sucks ....

sorry but that's just the way it is ...

:bingo: :imho: :notme: :blink:

 

[Mark]

You guys ... Half the people you consider "Mobi Crashers" OWN .mobi's themselves !

ONCE Again - This is not a sales thread - It's a "Discussion Thread" - If you're saying no one with Differing opinions are welcome to post in "Discussion Threads" , It is no longer a discussion IMO but a one sided sales pitch.

Other Examples of people giving their opinions recently in "Discussion" threads :

http://www.namepros.com/domain-name-discussion/328993-suv-net-deleting.html
http://www.namepros.com/industry-news/327951-porn-com-sold-for-9-million.html
http://www.namepros.com/domain-name-discussion/328467-porn-com-sells-us9-5-million.html
http://www.namepros.com/domain-name-discussion/328031-porn-com-sells-for-9-million.html

Look up as many threads as you wish here making note of a sale/possible sale , You'll see differing opinions in most.

Considering some of the things we've all seen in the past - I can't see where a little skepticism is such a huge problem at all. It keeps ALL of us on our toes ...

In the plural, I don't think it's worth nearly that amount, in my view .... and with one only one bid, one must consider the possibility that it may be more of this "funny business" with .MOBI's using the Sedo auction systyem, IMHO.

The singular form would indeed hold more value IMO as well .. It is searched for +/- 40% more than the plural form from what I see.


Good Luck to the Buyer and Seller ~