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Are random 4L .com really worth investing renewals?

Labeled as discuss in "Short" Domain Discussion, started by Akhilesh.Kumar, Feb 28, 2021

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  1. Future Sensors

    Future Sensors 78% of human domainers will be replaced by robots Gold Account

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    It's my guesstimate ;) AI will be used, and will create better domains than most of us will ever do on this forum. Maybe these newly created domains will be used by robots, though...

    The parties with access to all of our queries will have a huge advantage, like AOL had back in the days. In the future, the largest registries and DNS-over-HTTPS monopolies will have all information. But there are more. Lots and lots of other parties are in the path. Who will eventually monetize all this information in a smart AI way? Maybe I'm just as curious as you.
     
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  2. Akhilesh.Kumar

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  3. theinvestor

    theinvestor Established Member ★★★★★★★★★★

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    This is a good question and one of the main reasons I pivoted very early on from buying LLLL to buying quality LLLLL that is now worth way more than a random LLLL.

    Although I still do own a few LLLL, I didn’t go purchasing random ones just for the sake to try to sell them for 20 years later at a possible loss.
     
  4. Akhilesh.Kumar

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    Exactly my point.
    Though the difference between me and you is that I am even late for good 5Ls now.. :ROFL:
     
  5. Akhilesh.Kumar

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    That is a kicker my friend. Who knows the future. Lets do it now, what we can.
    Enjoy your Sunday.

    Cheers...!!!
     
  6. Future Sensors

    Future Sensors 78% of human domainers will be replaced by robots Gold Account

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    There are still good opportunities for catchy 5L/6L/7L on droplists. Often these are the domains you see at "brandable" marketplaces. Non-dictionary words. You can catch them for a small amount and keep them.

    Learn how to create a good regex and filter by popular patterns. Use metrics to decide what domain has the most potential, based on starting letters of companies, etc.
     
  7. marijuanadomain

    marijuanadomain Established Member

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    I bought so many 4L domains years ago at dirt cheap prices at $15 a piece from someone who called themselves to be a domain Expert or Domain Pro or Domain Investor- Domains I got dirt cheap like
    gxnx.com.zmmr.com,kvlp.com,llyu.com,mbxy.com,wzwi.com,vhvk.com and now I getting high prices offers...
    Squarely.com- I got for just 1K and square is using squarely for their podcast as talking squarely.
    So who is laughing all the way to the bank now!!!
     
  8. -AR-

    -AR- Established Member ★★★★★★★★★★

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    I guess it's all about luck as well as the fact that owning a 4 letter .com will have value in the next 5 years simply because it is limited in quantity. Just like 3 letter dot com's are today. Secondly there are a lot of big brands that are increasingly using 4L.com's. Don't forget that the moment you move to 5 and 6 letter domains you are expecting your customers to be more literate too not to misspell the domain and land somewhere else.

    I do agree though that some are just pure junk to the untrained eye, my theory is that we should all own some junk to keep the game going, but it's easier said than done.
     
  9. ReallyBigIdea.com

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    LLLL com is a great investment but otherwise according my research Chinese investors are moved to new gtld english one-words lol.
     
  10. scrsteven

    scrsteven Top Member PRO VIP ICA Member ★★★★★★★★★★

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    Bad letter LLLL.com (like QZJX.com) are net losers if you hold them for passive resale: renewal expenses exceed end user sale income on average. Verisign and ICANN are the only winners.
     
  11. Akhilesh.Kumar

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    Most of those names have a pattern or possible abbreviations.
    The most meaningless combination af 4 letters us alive for 15-20 years eating up tons of renewal cost getting sold for less then total of their renewal expenses. That's the point.

    Bingo. That's the reason whatever is available is glittery. Cos rhe quantity is too low.

    Don't know anything about chinese taste dear. If they are/were making 4Ls expensive, I may need to read further and develop understanding.

    You forgot Registrars. They make renewal profits, transfer fee, privacy protection bla bla bla.. The world is selfish. 😆
     
  12. DuDD

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    4L
    It's still very valuable
     
  13. Akhilesh.Kumar

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    In context to China?
    If so why 15 yrs old 4L getting sold for 100 USD,
     
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  14. santis

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    I have 3 domains 4L .com (zezd, tugv, ynvo) and holding for 4 years but no inquiries, I think I will liquidate them.
     
  15. Akhilesh.Kumar

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    Good luck.
    :)
     
  16. DirkS

    DirkS DutchPirates.com VIP

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    It's all about taking a gamble and about liquidity.

    Invest some for a short period of time in whatever LLLL, if it doesn't pay off you're certain you can liquidate for at least a break even number within a day may you want/need to (if you bought wisely).
     
  17. Akhilesh.Kumar

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    That's true.
    It's like no or little risk for Reinvestor if invested for little time.
     
  18. Haroon Basha

    Haroon Basha IZUQ.COM VIP Gold Account

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    You already insulted the owners of thousands of 4 letter dot com owners by terming these names as "all non sense 4L.com"

    Please avoid sarcastic comments.
     
  19. DirkS

    DirkS DutchPirates.com VIP

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    How would that be an insult? That's non sense :)
     
  20. Akhilesh.Kumar

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    Hello Mr. Basha,

    I respect your seniority and like million others here, you too are a source or learning and information for me. Thank you for being a valuable source.

    With due respect, may I request you to read the post again (completely). Or to save your time, here is the thing I need your attention on (copied from my original post) -

    The discussion is about trying to get a sense out of 4L .coms which do not end up in any abbreviations or repeat characters or fancy formations etc.

    Everyone else participating in the discussion found it an opportunity to portray their thoughts.
    If you found anything inappropriate, please feel free to use the "Report" button.
    If not, enjoy your coffee and say Cheers...!!!
     
  21. Akhilesh.Kumar

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    Thanks for your understanding.
    Enjoy your day.
    Cheers...!!!
     
  22. DirkS

    DirkS DutchPirates.com VIP

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    You're welcome. You worded it decent enough.

    I would actually describe some random ones I own as crap, basically not even worth reg fee. Unless someone starts using a weird abbreviation, no brand value in it. The only reason they have value is because LLLL is 'scarce' and in demand.
     
  23. Akhilesh.Kumar

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    Bingo...!!!

    That's my point. If it's not worth reg fee or 10 to 15 years of renewal fee investment, what's the point bidding $100-150 on such combination of 4 random letters?
    They are just worth around $100 for the fact they are 4L dot com.

    I tried buying some but could not convince myself to invest $100 for one name that doesn't make any sense. Rather I may prefer investing $100 doing hand reg for 15 names that make some sense.
    IMO... Once again, not intent to insult anyone.. :)

    Cheers...!!!
     
  24. Duck_Duck_Domain

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    Totally agree, very valid point.
     

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