Simple question. Do you think downvoting and upvoting should be anonymous on Namepros, yes or no?
Personally, I don't like quick replies and downvotes being anonymous. At the same time, I'm a little worried about suddenly deanonymizing a bunch of data that was previously pseudo-anonymous. We've disclosed from day one that votes aren't actually intended to be anonymous and that we intend to eventually publish that data, but it's worrying nonetheless.Why do you love making Namepros toxic with anon dvs?
Look at my poll!It's hard to be fair to everyone--or, rather, it's hard to make everyone happy while simultaneously being fair.
For that problem, you may be able to keep the old data anonymized as it is now (without de-anonymizing), while only offering de-anonymized options starting from a certain date in the future.Personally, I don't like quick replies and downvotes being anonymous. At the same time, I'm a little worried about suddenly deanonymizing a bunch of data that was previously pseudo-anonymous. We've disclosed from day one that votes aren't actually intended to be anonymous and that we intend to eventually publish that data, but it's worrying nonetheless.
It's hard to be fair to everyone--or, rather, it's hard to make everyone happy while simultaneously being fair.
How about removing them and discounting them from the totals? Might that be an option? Is it even possible?Personally, I don't like quick replies and downvotes being anonymous. At the same time, I'm a little worried about suddenly deanonymizing a bunch of data that was previously pseudo-anonymous. We've disclosed from day one that votes aren't actually intended to be anonymous and that we intend to eventually publish that data, but it's worrying nonetheless.
It's hard to be fair to everyone--or, rather, it's hard to make everyone happy while simultaneously being fair.
Minority - it's admins and mod team. Majority all common usersPart of the job of a moderation team--or any oversight body--is to protect the minority from the majority.
Most of the downvotes came from people who are complaining about downvoting in this thread. That seems to be a common occurrence.What did he wrong?
What are those trolls disagreeing with?
Most of the downvotes came from people who are complaining about downvoting
Agreed, but you can't have accountability without transparency. One is a prerequisite for the other.No. The biggest argument against anonymisation is that it allows people to avoid taking responsibility for their actions.
This is going back to responsibility, accountability, and transparency. It's hard to hold people accountable when they're anonymous.Who cares about misinformation.
You have completely missed the point.
Downvoting options should be disabled.
Most of the downvotes came from people who are complaining about downvoting in this thread. That seems to be a common occurrence.
Paul,Agreed, but you can't have accountability without transparency. One is a prerequisite for the other.
This is going back to responsibility, accountability, and transparency. It's hard to hold people accountable when they're anonymous.
Looking at the top downvoters, I suspect there's quite a bit of correlation between people who are downvoted and people who downvote others. That's a concerning cycle of toxicity indicating that anonymous voting doesn't work.
I agree. This is basically a new domain investor, and they have a -8 for simply asking a question?This guy opened a thread with ca 20 replies.
They massacred him
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What did he wrong?
What are those trolls disagreeing with?
Isn't there any way to just disable downvotes going forward?
It was me.Most of the downvotes came from people who are complaining about downvoting in this thread. That seems to be a common occurrence.
It was a great thread, many intelligent replies, highest reply got a +14, no reason OP should be at -8 (now -3)I agree. This is basically a new domain investor, and they have a -8 for simply asking a question?
Then another -10 for asking a question?
What did they do wrong?
You will notice I have multiple responses in that thread.
The OP seemed like they were genuinely interested in learning and were courteous.
This negative downvote system really hurts meaningful engagement IMO.
@Paul
Brad
Nope.
This DownFu* is getting a lot of people out of NPs (X). “Maybes“ are not going to end this …. and if the management doesn’t want to recognize the outcome … then, in a year-two there is no more NamePros … Let’s see
Seriously …
Regards
I really preferred the thanks / like / agree / dislike / disagree system without any anonymous voting period.It was me.
I wanted someone to talk about downvoting.
I undid my -5, your move, @Paul.
Stop empowering anon bullies and shills —
I believe in positive thoughts and emotions.I really preferred the thanks / like / agree / dislike / disagree system without any anonymous voting period.
Even then (and now), I rarely click dislike or disagree. I would rather leave a comment than doing that, and certainly over leaving anonymous downvotes.
I think that system encouraged more dialogue via actual comments than just leaving anonymous votes.
Brad
I tend to agree with the view expressed a bit ago by @bmugford and others in this thread about the anonymous dislike voting being negative to the community, and not, that I can see, serving any useful purpose. It seems, as case noted, that some are particularly hard on newcomers simply asking questions.I really preferred the thanks / like / agree / dislike / disagree system without any anonymous voting period.
Even then (and now), I rarely click dislike or disagree. I would rather leave a comment than doing that, and certainly over leaving anonymous downvotes.
I think that system encouraged more dialogue via actual comments than just leaving anonymous votes.
I tend to agree with the view expressed a bit ago by @bmugford and others in this thread about the anonymous dislike voting being negative to the community, and not, that I can see, serving any useful purpose. It seems, as case noted, that some are particularly hard on newcomers simply asking questions.
I personally would probably prefer a system that we take out dislike altogether. Also, that it be suggested that anyone leaving a disagree should add a comment briefly explaining why they disagree. I have no problem with people expressing disagreement, and it is valuable to counter ideas that are expressed by may not be sound, but to be helpful in a forum surely it is better to share why you disagree.
-Bob
Sometimes, though, it's best to not take the downvotes too personally. The implication in that case is that the response didn't really have content. It's better to simply do a like or thanks button, rather than perhaps a comment that is a general greeting.Question for moderator @Bravo Mod Team
Why you start a thread and then turn it into an ask paul anything thread?
Quad, being a minus means you have made quite an impact.
Keep posting you will get to minus xxxx
Then you will be worth something
Sometimes, though, it's best to not take the downvotes too personally. The implication in that case is that the response didn't really have content. It's better to simply do a like or thanks button, rather than perhaps a comment that is a general greeting.
Nonetheless, it is interesting that sometimes members with signficant downvotes have a useful comment that gets them into trouble. And the comments may be worthwhile seriously considering, even if not popular.
Not as much as I expected. However, if we instead look at the people giving the downvotes (rather than receiving them), then we see that a small percentage of people are responsible for the overwhelming majority of downvotes. They’re relatively indiscriminate in who they downvote.Would you agree that certain people and/or subjects receive a disproportionate amount of downvotes?
That’s not a helpful argument.You should be ashamed at allowing anon downvotes.