poll Should NP downvoting be anonymous?

[redemo]

Simple question. Do you think downvoting and upvoting should be anonymous on Namepros, yes or no?

 

[Sam1234]

I want to know who I am dealing with like in the old days before we hád to start hiding our identities for security reasons.
Would you rather I had anonymously downvoted you?
Debate without hate

I really don't care if you downvote me. In fact I dare you

 

[Bravo Mod Team]

Here’s a related thread:

• https://www.namepros.com/threads/wh...mous-downvoting-upvoting.1281608/post-8683183

The context of that thread is useful to this poll.

 

[redemo]

Just curious... If you had that info, what would you do with it? What's there to gain? Nothing.

Those who care are usually the ones who go bonkers over being downvoted.

Then there are users inviting people to downvote their posts and get mad when it happens and open polls about whether those votes should be public.

Keep them anonymous or remove the feature entirely I'd say. This forum shouldn't be about a popularity contest. We've got Twitter for that.

If you can't define what a domainer is YOU AREN'T A DOMAINER.

 

[redemo]

Here’s a related thread:

• https://www.namepros.com/threads/wh...mous-downvoting-upvoting.1281608/post-8683183

The context of that thread is useful to this poll.

Nah I don't care about this any more. Downvoting is a crap feature. End of story.

 

[dirk]

If you can't define what a domainer is YOU AREN'T A DOMAINER.

So you're not a domainer then, by your own definition?

Also, I think you're replying in the wrong thread?

 

[DomainBanana]

The anonymous negative votes have ruined the namepros experience for me.

They are being abused and weaponized as a means of bullying and do not foster honest, civil discussion.

A bunch of anonymous down votes feels like people spitting in my face.

I tried to participate in a thread by offering sincere suggestions based on my experience and received many negative votes just because my opinion was unpopular.

I don't feel safe sharing my honest experience with others here and will not be participating in threads unless this problem is fixed.

 

[Sam1234]

The anonymous negative votes have ruined the namepros experience for me.

They are being abused and weaponized as a means of bullying and do not foster honest, civil discussion.

A bunch of anonymous down votes feels like people spitting in my face.

I tried to participate in a thread by offering sincere suggestions based on my experience and received many negative votes just because my opinion was unpopular.

I don't feel safe sharing my honest experience with others here and will not be participating in threads unless this problem is fixed.

I downvoted you because I disagreed with your comments (each one of them, individually) about the stolen domain, but didn't have time to respond to them all. Just because one person has nothing but time on their hands doesn't mean that everyone who disagrees also has to have an equal amount of time on their hands to invest in contradicting that person. You were wrong imo, so I downvoted you to reflect that. The people with the least agreeable posts somehow never stop to ask why so many people disagreed with their post, and are always complaining about the anonymous downvotes. Yet if they were not anonymous those same obsessive people would just be harrassing the people that disagreed with them and demanding explanations.

I downvoted you to express my disagreement with your posts (disagreement that was already shared by many), and it is right that that should be the end of it for me if I wish it so. If you put something out there and force everyone to view it, you have to accept that some people disagree and don't owe you an explanation for disagreeing. If your whole Namepros experience is dependent on being able to post unpopular things and only receive upvotes and high fives for that, or else have those posts be fodder to force people who disagree into further endless discussion about your unpopular views, then what can anyone else do about that? If you post unpopular things, those things will be downvoted. This is true on just about every message board in the world but it's only on Namepros that people act like someone "did something to them" simply by downvoting something they disagreed with and going on their way.

It is important not to post things if you can't accept that people may just generally disagree with you. In the case of the stolen domain, your views were pretty much the opposite of those expressed in most posts in that thread, so there really was no reason to give any explanation. The guy made a claim that Epik stole his name and provided some form of evidence of this, and in the absence of any further word from Epik most of us took him at his word. If you want to take Epik's side and assume best intentions from them that's fine, but there's no way you could be confused about why people disagreed because the explanations were given in the thread and your arguments did not seem to address those views that had already been expressed, nor bring up any relevant point of view that anyone had overlooked. You made an argument (of sorts) against what everyone else was saying, but the argument did not seem convincing in the context of the conversation, so you were downvoted by many people. Sorry if that makes you feel unsafe, I don't know how anyone could reasonably address that. I don't feel like that's a normal reaction to your post being disliked.

 

[DomainBanana]

I downvoted you because I disagreed with your comments (each one of them, individually) about the stolen domain, but didn't have time to respond to them all. Just because one person has nothing but time on their hands doesn't mean that everyone who disagrees also has to have an equal amount of time on their hands to invest in contradicting that person. You were wrong imo, so I downvoted you to reflect that. The people with the least agreeable posts somehow never stop to ask why so many people disagreed with their post, and are always complaining about the anonymous downvotes. Yet if they were not anonymous those same obsessive people would just be harrassing the people that disagreed with them and demanding explanations.

I downvoted you to express my disagreement with your posts (disagreement that was already shared by many), and it is right that that should be the end of it for me if I wish it so. If you put something out there and force everyone to view it, you have to accept that some people disagree and don't owe you an explanation for disagreeing. If your whole Namepros experience is dependent on being able to post unpopular things and only receive upvotes and high fives for that, or else have those posts be fodder to force people who disagree into further endless discussion about your unpopular views, then what can anyone else do about that? If you post unpopular things, those things will be downvoted. This is true on just about every message board in the world but it's only on Namepros that people act like someone "did something to them" simply by downvoting something they agreed with and going on their way.

It is important not to post things if you can't accept that people may just generally disagree with you. In the case of the stolen domain, your views were pretty much the opposite of those expressed in most posts in that thread, so there really was no reason to give any explanation. The guy made a claim that Epik stole his name and provided some form of evidence of this, and in the absence of any further word from Epik most of us took him at his word. If you want to take Epik's side and assume best intentions from them that's fine, but there's no way you could be confused about why people disagreed because the explanations were given in the thread and your arguments did not seem to address those views that had already been expressed, nor bring up any relevant point of view that anyone had overlooked. You made an argument against what everyone else was saying, but the argument did not seem convincing in the context of the conversation, so you were downvoted by many people.

Thanks for explaining your reasons for the downvotes.

Anonymous downvotes just don't work for me.

I took the time to share my sincere views based on my experience. And my experience should count for something. The same thing that happened to Brad happened to me. I spent months working with Dynadot, ICANN, and attorneys, hashing out the problem. And I learned a few things along the way.

If people don't care about my experience or what I learned, shared only in the interest of helping a fellow domain investor, fine.

I don't need a bunch of people ganging up on me and essentially spitting in my face because they disagree.

I'm not interested in a forum that doesn't respect people's sincere contributions and doesn't foster a positive environment between members.

I'm done contributing here unless something changes.

 

[Sam1234]

Thanks for explaining your reasons for the downvotes.

Anonymous downvotes just don't work for me.

I took the time to share my sincere views based on my experience. And my experience should count for something. The same thing that happened to Brad happened to me. I spent months working with Dynadot, ICANN, and attorneys, hashing out the problem. And I learned a few things along the way.

If people don't care about my experience or what I learned, shared only in the interest of helping a fellow domain investor, fine.

I don't need a bunch of people ganging up on me and essentially spitting in my face because they disagree.

I'm not interested in a forum that doesn't respect people's sincere contributions and doesn't foster a positive environment between members.

I'm done contributing here unless something changes.

Your most recent post that was not in that thread received several upvotes:
https://www.namepros.com/threads/alter-com-marketplace.1208387/post-8690367

Sometimes you post popular things and get upvotes for them. Sometimes you post unpopular things and get downvotes for them. When you get the upvotes you feel good and take no further action, but then when you get downvotes one time you are suddenly ranting about bullying and feeling unsafe, and demanding that the social features of the site be changed to be more friendly to your unpopular posts. It's clear that there's no bias against you by anyone on this site, but that you just had an unpopular opinion that you chose to share. Nobody is bullying you or threatening your safety.

I can't speak for the mods or whatever but I will be surprised if anyone changes anything just because you had a bad day and got mad that you posted something unpopular. Just saying.

 

[DomainBanana]

Your most recent post that was not in that thread received several upvotes:
https://www.namepros.com/threads/alter-com-marketplace.1208387/post-8690367

Sometimes you post popular things and get upvotes for them. Sometimes you post unpopular things and get downvotes for them. When you get the upvotes you feel good and take no further action, but then when you get downvotes one time you are suddenly ranting about bullying and feeling unsafe, and demanding that the social features of the site be changed to be more friendly to your unopopular posts. It's clear that there's no bias against you by anyone on this site, but that you just had an unpopular opinion that you chose to share. Nobody is bullying you or threatening your safety. You were negged on all of your posts because you posted in the same thread 5 times basically saying the same thing that you knew people disagreed with over and over.

I can't speak for the mods or whatever but I will be surprised if anyone changes anything just because you had a bad day and got mad that you expressed an unpopular opinion. Just saying.

This isn't the first time this has happened to me, and it's not just me.

Those anonymous downvotes are like people lifting their leg and taking a piss on what I'm trying to say -- when I was simply trying to help.

It's not the kind of environment I'm interested in participating in.

 

[Bravo Mod Team]

They are being abused and weaponized as a means of bullying and do not foster honest, civil discussion.

Please report posts where you believe it is being abused. We can investigate and correct abuse.

Anonymous downvotes just don't work for me.

They're not truly anonymous. Moderators can view them.

In the future, members will be able to earn enough Impact to be granted access to this information, as well.

Learn more:

• https://www.namepros.com/threads/ask-a-moderator-anything-publicly.1265676/post-8683111
• https://www.namepros.com/threads/namepros-november-2021-a-new-website-and-more.1041901/post-8516976
• https://www.namepros.com/threads/namepros-november-2021-a-new-website-and-more.1041901/post-8446065

 

[biggie]

Hi

as long as i can see who is downvoting my posts, then that is sufficient.

i can deal with that going forward.

Thank you.

imo....

Hi

now that i can see who is giving downvotes

check this out!
the OP of thread below went back to a 2021 and downvoted a couple of my posts there yesterday.


https://www.namepros.com/threads/best-domain-checklist-tips.1240398/#post-8287849


imo...

 

[redemo]

Hi

now that i can see who is giving downvotes

check this out!
the OP of thread below went back to a 2021 and downvoted a couple of my posts there yesterday.


https://www.namepros.com/threads/best-domain-checklist-tips.1240398/#post-8287849


imo...

I didn't go back, I was on that thread doing research for another thread. Happened to click ignored content tab and see your 100% pointless contributions and publicly disagreed your nonsense with both posts while also down-voted them. It wasn't selective only to you, and happy for moderators to check this. I stand by all of my actions and have not attempted to hide them. As an aside, I've had you on the ignore list for a while list since you only contribute negative responses to my posts. It's been consistent for over a year now. Quite happy to back that up with evidence if you so wish? Since you are able to see the down-voting I guess you forgot to mention all your posts I've up-voted? Yeah, that's what I thought. End of story.

 

[redemo]

Hi

now that i can see who is giving downvotes

check this out!
the OP of thread below went back to a 2021 and downvoted a couple of my posts there yesterday.


https://www.namepros.com/threads/best-domain-checklist-tips.1240398/#post-8287849


imo...

So who is down-voting all your posts then? Since you have all the information is it just me? You've gone awfully quiet.

 

[MasterOfMyDomains]

This turning into a popcornfest
Hey mods, how do i see my invisible upvotes and downvotes?

 

[redemo]

This turning into a popcornfest
Hey mods, how do i see my invisible upvotes and downvotes?

Namepros is a drug. Somebody should apply for F.D.A. approval and then tax it.

 

[biggie]

Yes, however, in order to establish a habitual pattern, we'll need to see the same member downvoting your posts in different context and topics. A single post rarely identifies a retaliatory or antagonistic incident beyond a shadow of a doubt.

Once we establish a clear pattern, we can get more involved and take action.

Hi

now that i can see who is giving downvotes

check this out!
the OP of thread below went back to a 2021 and downvoted a couple of my posts there yesterday.


https://www.namepros.com/threads/best-domain-checklist-tips.1240398/#post-8287849

Hi @Echo Mod Team

i believe a clear pattern has now been established.

Please address it


imo....

 

[Echo Mod Team]

Hi @Echo Mod Team

i believe a clear pattern has now been established.

Please address it


imo....

A habitual pattern requires more than 1 downvote. The post you linked to was not downvoted by just 1 individual member, they were from different members that disagreed with the post.

As mentioned prior, in order to establish a habitual pattern, we need to verify that the same member is downvoting/disagreeing with multiple posts in multiple different topics.

We've asked multiple times for you to start a support thread and provide us with multiple posts that were downvoted/disagreed with to help establish a pattern and you have not cooperated with us yet.

As soon as we are able to establish a pattern, we can get more involved.

We look forward to reviewing any posts you provide us with. You can create a support thread here: https://www.namepros.com/forums/namepros-general-support.184/

Please start a support thread so a moderator team can focus on your specific case in a centralized location that's easier to follow, update, and keep track of.

Thanks

 

[biggie]

Please start a support thread so a moderator team can focus on your specific case in a centralized location that's easier to follow, update, and keep track of.

Hi

i had already started a thread on this subject here:
https://www.namepros.com/threads/how-to-view-who-gave-negative-points-to-your-posts.1273835/

if you view my "alerts" profile you can see the numerous downvotes recently given by one member in particular.

imo....

 

[redemo]

Hi

i had already started a thread on this subject here:
https://www.namepros.com/threads/how-to-view-who-gave-negative-points-to-your-posts.1273835/

if you view my "alerts" profile you can see the numerous downvotes recently given by one member in particular.

imo....

Gave you minus 6 votes for this post, and publicly disagreed with it too.
https://www.namepros.com/threads/ask-a-moderator-anything-publicly.1265676/post-8696220. If you don't believe in democracy then move to North Korea, or try being more constructive. People get down-voted for unpopular posts, just as they get up-voted for popular posts. I get down-voted and up-voted too. That's life. The difference is that I'm NOT against down-voting, just think it should be linked to a username so you can debate WHY the down-votes were given. I haven't broken any Namepros rules, and I stand by my voting. The mod team can clearly see that I don't single out any members, you included @biggie, for unfair down-voting. That's a fact.

Maybe you should spend less time worrying about who's voting your posts up/down and more time improving the quality and delivery of your posts? But I highly doubt that will happen.