poll Should NP downvoting be anonymous?

[redemo]

Simple question. Do you think downvoting and upvoting should be anonymous on Namepros, yes or no?

 

[Echo Mod Team]

Hi

i had already started a thread on this subject here:
https://www.namepros.com/threads/how-to-view-who-gave-negative-points-to-your-posts.1273835/

if you view my "alerts" profile you can see the numerous downvotes recently given by one member in particular.

imo....

We are not seeing where you provided any links to posts with downvotes in the thread you linked to for us to review.

 

[bmugford]

Here is a question... Why is anonymous voting a thing?

There are some (who knows how many) people abusing this system with anonymous downvotes even for legitimate comments or questions.

I personally don't feel targeted, but I see others who make comments and many of which seem unfairly targeted with anonymous downvotes.

It seems certain people and/or subjects attract far more anonymous downvotes than others. That bothers me.

I have left several comments in threads where someone is getting downvotes in response to one of my posts that say that I don't support it.

How is this a good thing? All it does is stifle participation.

When I mentioned the amount of downvotes a comment got (-11), while also pointing out it is a legitimate question, that comment was deleted in this thread.

https://www.namepros.com/threads/bull-xyz-sold-for-199-888-dan-record-sale.1286639/

So you can leave as many anonymous downvotes as you want, but can't point out when a legitimate question was unfairly downvoted.

Brad

 

[bmugford]

Here is a question... Why is anonymous voting a thing?

There are some (who knows how many) people abusing this system with anonymous downvotes even for legitimate comments or questions.

How is this a good thing? All it does is stifle participation.

When I mentioned the amount of downvotes a comment got (-11), even while pointing out it is a legitimate question, that comment was deleted in this thread.

https://www.namepros.com/threads/bull-xyz-sold-for-199-888-dan-record-sale.1286639/

So you can leave as many anonymous downvotes as you want, but can't point that out when a legitimate question was unfairly downvoted.

Brad

Of course, even a comment about abuse of downvotes get downvotes. I am getting fed up with this system.
I might just take an extended leave of absence in the near future.

Brad

 

[Echo Mod Team]

Here is a question... Why is anonymous voting a thing?

There are some (who knows how many) people abusing this system with anonymous downvotes even for legitimate comments or questions.

I personally don't feel targeted, but I see others who make comments and many of which seem unfairly targeted with anonymous downvotes.

It seems certain people and/or subjects attract far more anonymous downvotes than others. That bothers me.

I have left several comments in threads where someone is getting downvotes in response to one of my posts that say that I don't support it.

How is this a good thing? All it does is stifle participation.

When I mentioned the amount of downvotes a comment got (-11), while also pointing out it is a legitimate question, that comment was deleted in this thread.

https://www.namepros.com/threads/bull-xyz-sold-for-199-888-dan-record-sale.1286639/

So you can leave as many anonymous downvotes as you want, but can't point out when a legitimate question was unfairly downvoted.

Brad

Hello,


It appears that a moderator team removed your post from the thread you linked to because it took the thread off the topic of the bull.xyz sale and lead the discussion onto a different topic about the down-vote system.

The following rules apply:

1.14. Do not make noncontributory posts/threads or artificially inflate your post count ("post pad"):

• Do not unnecessarily post multiple times in a single discussion in a short period of time, sometimes called instant messaging (instead, take your time before posting so that all relevant content can be grouped together within a minimum amount of posts). Exceptions are made where reasonable (e.g., edit time limits have passed or each reply is dedicated to a different member's post).
• Only post comments and questions that are relevant to the topic and contribute to the discussion (e.g., posting a single word like "bump" is not contributory; instead, post a short question or unique comment to encourage new activity in a thread).
• Needlessly short and noncontributory posts are not allowed. Exceptions may be made in select sections like Domain Name Requests, Meet and Greet (Networking), Domain Industry News, NamePros Blog comments, Domain Chat, and Domain Name Sales unless the thread indicates that it's not allowed in that particular thread.
• Exception: Only NamePros staff may post a noncontributory bump in someone else’s thread, such as when a new thread is hidden temporarily (e.g., awaiting approval) and experiences a decrease in visibility.

1.5. Do not post anything suggestive, inquisitive, or critical of NamePros (e.g., policy, staff, or moderator activity: infractions, content approval, edited/deleted posts, etc.) except in the designated Help Desk area (e.g., in the private support or public feedback sections).

In rule 1.5 a moderator team may or may not consider the discussion of the NamePros downvoting feature to be included (Since it's members moderating through the feature). Especially if it takes a thread off-topic.

If the post about downvoting was in a support related type thread (Like the one I'm replying to here), neither of the above rules would apply.

For internal use ONLY: https://www.namepros.com/threads/bull-xyz-sold-for-199-888-dan-record-sale.1286639/post-8740619

As for the downvoting system itself, you can find previous reply's from moderator teams here:
https://www.namepros.com/threads/ask-a-moderator-anything-publicly.1265676/post-8683111
https://www.namepros.com/threads/ask-a-moderator-anything-publicly.1265676/post-8683136
https://www.namepros.com/threads/ask-a-moderator-anything-publicly.1265676/post-8696321

We hope that information helps.

 

[Bravo Mod Team]

Is there a function to build a favourite list of Namepros members please?

I'm trying to do is manually build a list of Namepros members who register domain names and develop them into monetisable or saleable (sellable?) assets. I then want to filter all content on Namepros to just show what those members post

You can do this with the "Follow" button, but we don't have a way to create secondary lists yet.

Once you follow them, you can filter all content to just theirs by visiting your news feed:

• https://www.namepros.com/whats-new/news-feed

Hey mods, how do i see my invisible upvotes and downvotes?

Only moderators can do that, currently.

So you can leave as many anonymous downvotes as you want, but can't point out when a legitimate question was unfairly downvoted.

We're thinking about having a sort of "meta" area for threads where things like that, and even the moderation of a thread, can be discussed because those things are not part of the topic itself (and the topic is the reason that most people are reading a thread), but rather they're discussions about the thread itself (not its topic).

Why is anonymous voting a thing?

Here's a thread about this question:

• https://www.namepros.com/threads/wh...mous-downvoting-upvoting.1281608/post-8683183

We hope that helps.

 

[Echo Mod Team]

Hi,

This comment is decreasing my impact rapidly, without logical reason!
I picked .dev / .app / .me from poll and shared my opinion in comment.
namepros.com/blog/domain-name-investors-make-predictions-for-2023.1291544/comment-8803071

Did I type something against namePro's rules?

Regards,
- devXC

Hello,

The following quoted posts by moderators should help provide more information regarding up/down votes and community moderation (Which the up/down vote feature is part of):

The points assigned from a quick reply are public, but the points assigned from the arrows are only accessible by moderators (and in the future, accessible by top members like yourself). We’re working toward that goal every day, but it’s part of a larger project.

Hello,

Yes, however, in order to establish a habitual pattern, we'll need to see the same member downvoting your posts in different context and topics. A single post rarely identifies a retaliatory or antagonistic incident beyond a shadow of a doubt.

A review of recent activity did not show downvotes.

Would you care to start a dedicated support thread, where you can list a few of them for us to investigate? - https://www.namepros.com/forums/namepros-general-support.184/

Once we establish a clear pattern, we can get more involved and take action.

Hello,

It appears that the original poster disagreed and disliked your opinion. A different member also disagreed, bringing the points to 3. The 4th point was an actual downvote and not a Like, Agree, Disagree, Dislike button click. There does not appear to be multiple downvotes from the same person. It's a combination of a downvote and usage of the Like, Agree, Disagree, Dislike buttons.

Keep in mind, any time a Like, Agree, Disagree, Dislike button is clicked, it also adds or subtracts a vote (Up/Down). Most members are not intentionally trying to manipulate the post voting system and simply using the Like, Agree, Disagree, Dislike buttons on the post to express their opinion regarding a comment.

Are you suggesting that members should not be allowed to disagree/dislike with other members opinions?

The incentive of allowing members to freely express their opinions (In compliance with the rules) as well as members being able to freely disagree with opinions (In compliance with the rules), is empowering members to self-moderate community content.

You can find more information about community moderation here: https://www.namepros.com/threads/namepros-november-2021-a-new-website-and-more.1041901/post-8516976 and here: https://www.namepros.com/threads/ba...-for-threats-on-namepros.1186257/post-7730322

We hope that information helps.

Yes. That's why influence within the community is important. The majority of members cannot downvote a single post 5 times. The majority can only contribute a single downvote. As your influence in the community climbs, you have more responsibility and influence over the points on a single post.

 

[JB Lions]

You should remove the downvote part, not sure who thought that was a good idea. It’s more hive mind, coward, troll like territory with that kind of stuff. If somebody disagrees, they could simply hit reply and say why = more discussion. If there is more discussion, then maybe you can cut down on the no limit thread bumping that’s allowed

 

[MasterOfMyDomains]

Sorry to see your getting invisibly stabbed in the back. I gave you +3 when you posted but just not enough.
Mods, when ya gonna kill that invisible bs?
Lets be democratic and have a vote.

And only last 10 pages. How are people dupposed to see those that invisibly downvoted them when you open that can of

namepros.com/blog/domain-name-investors-make-predictions-for-2023.1291544/comment-8803071

 

[devXC]

Thanks very much for your support @MasterOfMyDomains

Edit: While replying to you, somebody has downvoted the inquiry #86 don't know why? Lol

 

[Samer]

Hi

these downvotes are still occurring

and i want their usernames revealed.

please address this issue

Thanks

Hi
Please vote in my Poll.
I want the same thing.
Thanks!

https://www.namepros.com/threads/downvoting-should-not-be-anonymous.1302308/#post-8921983

 

[Samer]

What’s the point of Polls?

Why do you love making Namepros toxic with anon dvs?

https://www.namepros.com/threads/downvoting-should-not-be-anonymous.1302308/#post-8921983

 

[Paul]

Why do you love making Namepros toxic with anon dvs?

Personally, I don't like quick replies and downvotes being anonymous. At the same time, I'm a little worried about suddenly deanonymizing a bunch of data that was previously pseudo-anonymous. We've disclosed from day one that votes aren't actually intended to be anonymous and that we intend to eventually publish that data, but it's worrying nonetheless.

It's hard to be fair to everyone--or, rather, it's hard to make everyone happy while simultaneously being fair.

 

[Samer]

It's hard to be fair to everyone--or, rather, it's hard to make everyone happy while simultaneously being fair.

Look at my poll!
Only one person is happy with anonymous downvoting.

You trying to please ghosts make NP more toxic.

 

[Future Sensors]

Personally, I don't like quick replies and downvotes being anonymous. At the same time, I'm a little worried about suddenly deanonymizing a bunch of data that was previously pseudo-anonymous. We've disclosed from day one that votes aren't actually intended to be anonymous and that we intend to eventually publish that data, but it's worrying nonetheless.

It's hard to be fair to everyone--or, rather, it's hard to make everyone happy while simultaneously being fair.

For that problem, you may be able to keep the old data anonymized as it is now (without de-anonymizing), while only offering de-anonymized options starting from a certain date in the future.

 

[cooljub]

Personally, I don't like quick replies and downvotes being anonymous. At the same time, I'm a little worried about suddenly deanonymizing a bunch of data that was previously pseudo-anonymous. We've disclosed from day one that votes aren't actually intended to be anonymous and that we intend to eventually publish that data, but it's worrying nonetheless.

It's hard to be fair to everyone--or, rather, it's hard to make everyone happy while simultaneously being fair.

How about removing them and discounting them from the totals? Might that be an option? Is it even possible?

 

[Peter45]

That each member should be treated the same way, nobody can disagree with that.

So, why 5 forum members think that advertisers receive special treatment when it comes to moderation? and/or that it's not true that mods cut ties with advertisers who pushed that line in the past?

Paul, aren't you interested in knowing about the reasons for the 5 downvotes?
I think you should because those 5 downvotes can be read as 5 forum members saying that you are lying.

#46

 

[NameInbox]

Part of the job of a moderation team--or any oversight body--is to protect the minority from the majority.

Minority - it's admins and mod team. Majority all common users

p.s. I got it only now: Probably NP staff are using downvotes most of all
They wanna some likes too, but users are not so generous to them.

It's old but good post

The Psychology of Social Media: Why We Like, Comment, and Share Online​

https://buffer.com/resources/psychology-of-social-media/

 

[Paul]

What did he wrong?
What are those trolls disagreeing with?

Most of the downvotes came from people who are complaining about downvoting in this thread. That seems to be a common occurrence.

 

[kor]

Most of the downvotes came from people who are complaining about downvoting

I'm downvoting the downvote option.

ANARCHY!

 

[MAINNET]

@Peter45

Thank you for the reference.

The abuse of downvotes here is truly unacceptable. Especially with this era’s rising interest in domains; and the opportunity to teach/learn. The @NamePros team is obviously tolerant of The Downvote Gang’s behavior. After all, they LITERALLY play host to it.

Instead of constructively capitalizing on the thirst for knowledge many new investors have, this platform is becoming the antithesis of an environment that fosters healthy dialogue and helps position investors for success. It’s rather unfortunate on a number of levels.

Badges, seniority, ad-space and counterintuitive communication sums up NamePros pretty well at this point. One can receive helpful information from those who believe in being of service; but The Downvote Gang seems hell-bent on making NamePros “a read-only platform”.

🗣 Hopefully people like @Domain noob recognize there’s no such thing as a stupid question when making a concerted effort to learn and pave a way for your business to thrive. Despite QUAD’s unwarranted negative impact score, the door to request an unbiased perspective is always open.

The Downvote Gang will come out swinging; but the truth expressed here will be applicable regardless.

Mel
QUAD Domains