question Any Vax side effects?

Compassion said:

Indeed, ultimately this whole magic experience we know as life is contingent on breathing.


CON = WITH
SPIR = TO BREATHE LIFE

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Compassion said:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1386295247748149248

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an·ti
/ˈan(t)ē,ˈanˌtī/
preposition
preposition: anti
opposed to; against.

vac·cine
/vakˈsēn/
noun
noun: vaccine; plural noun: vaccines
a substance used to stimulate the production of antibodies and provide immunity against one or several diseases, prepared from the causative agent of a disease, its products, or a synthetic substitute, treated to act as an antigen without inducing the disease.

Put the words together. Anti-Vaccine aka Anti-Vax.

bmugford said:

/vakˈsēn/
noun
noun: vaccine; plural noun: vaccines
a substance used to stimulate the production of antibodies and provide immunity against one or several diseases, prepared from the causative agent of a disease, its products, or a synthetic substitute, treated to act as an antigen without inducing the disease.

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A draconian and barbaric attempt to enhance immune function based on archaic and flawed innate-adaptive immunological concepts which in its origins - if you read about them - may make you vomit into your mouth...




Jenner and vaccination : a strange chapter of medical history - Charles Creighton MD

https://archive.org/details/b21357067

Compassion sounds like a real anti-vax but he has reasons for being so. He did his research.
I mean, we can't treat all antivax people equally.

I'm not anti-vax (yet). I'm only anti-bigpharma so far.

Sometimes vaccines save lives (and so do antibiotics), so if you are against them you need to show alternatives.
And sometimes I'm not against a drug even if synthetic, and I'm only against lots of unnecessary toxic stuff added to them, such as colors, aspartame, fillers, nanoparticles, artificial aromas etc.

@Compassion .
I ask 3rd time. Are you against rabies vaccines as well?
Also asking second time: Should we apply pressure to all areas of our feet for maximum benefit?

bmugford said:

once fully approved

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That is the key. Bet most people wont be so concerned once it out of clinical trials on (well, us) & approved (or denied) general FDA approval. Dont quote me on this, but I believe I read approval is scheduled for sometime in 2022 (dont remember the specific month/date off hand), so it a while out.

topdom said:

Compassion sounds like a real anti-vax but he has reasons for being so. He did his research.
I mean, we can't treat all antivax people equally.

I'm not anti-vax (yet). I'm only anti-bigpharma so far.

Sometimes vaccines save lives (and so do antibiotics), so if you are against them you need to show alternatives.
And sometimes I'm not against a drug even if synthetic, and I'm only against lots of unnecessary toxic stuff added to them, such as colors, aspartame, fillers, nanoparticles, artificial aromas etc.

@Compassion .
I ask 3rd time. Are you against rabies vaccines as well?
Also asking second time: Should we apply pressure to all areas of our feet for maximum benefit?

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I've been vaxxed against my will as a child - I know first hand about the toxic effects.


Rabies is unusually rare and the very least of my concerns.
(Only about 25 cases total in ten years in the USA)

topdom said:

@Compassion[/USER] .
I ask 3rd time. Are you against rabies vaccines as well?
Also asking second time: Should we apply pressure to all areas of our feet for maximum benefit?

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I would also like to know about his stance on animal vaccines as well, like rabies which is required by law.

Are your pets anti-vax also? If so, you are a public health risk.

Brad

Compassion said:

Rabies is unusually rare and the very least of my concerns.
(Only about 25 cases total in ten years in the USA)

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Yes, because a highly effective vaccine exists in both animals and humans. Duh.

Brad

topdom said:

I'm not anti-vax (yet). I'm only anti-bigpharma so far.

Sometimes vaccines save lives (and so do antibiotics), so if you are against them you need to show alternatives.
And sometimes I'm not against a drug even if synthetic, and I'm only against lots of unnecessary toxic stuff added to them, such as colors, aspartame, fillers, nanoparticles, artificial aromas etc.

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That's a good point of view,

But we need to expand it to go beyond just pharmaceuticals,

I am pro technology and believe in encouraging innovation and inventions that make life better for everyone (without causing any damage to the Environment that is).

The way that I look at this is that if the CEO and the top brass of a company avoid using the products that their own company is making by themselves and their families then those products should not exist.

IMO

bmugford said:

I would also like to know about his stance on animal vaccines as well, like rabies which is required by law.

Are your pets anti-vax also? If so, you are a public health risk.

Brad

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Do you have anything helpful to add to humanity?
Or are you creating a permanent record of your troll like behavior for your great-great grandchildren to read?
(Actually I would be surprised if you even have children - you don't seem groomed enough to be a parent)


My dog has had a rabies shot

bmugford said:

Yes, because a highly effective vaccine exists in both animals and humans. Duh.

Brad

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LMFAO

DERP

Do you think all of the Raccoons and Skunks get their shots too?
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Compassion said:

My dog has had a rabies shot.

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Excellent. So you are doing your part to follow the law.

There is no "holistic" cure for rabies. You either take the vaccine or you die a horrific death.

Brad

bmugford said:

Excellent. So you are doing your part to follow the law.

There is no "holistic" cure for rabies. You either take the vaccine or you die a horrific death.

Brad

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Or you understand simple math and know you are far more likely to die by a lightning strike than you are to actually be bitten by an animal with rabies.

SCIENCE and Math yay!!!!!

And founder of Biontech doesn't take his own vaccine. He says he is not in hurry.
At least he is honest about it, unlike satanic politicians who pretend to get vaxed.

Compassion said:

DERP

Do you think all of the Raccoons and Skunks get their shots too?
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That is kind of a silly argument.

I am pretty sure there are a lot more pet dogs and cats than raccoons. The risk of being bitten by a dog is exponentially higher than a raccoon.

I am sorry we can't catch and vaccinate every wild animal. If someone had a pet raccoon it is probably required also.

Brad

Compassion said:

A draconian and barbaric attempt to enhance immune function based on archaic and flawed innate-adaptive immunological concepts which in its origins - if you read about them - may make you vomit into your mouth...

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You're into acupuncture, so no stranger to needles. Scientific research into how acupuncture actually works is still in its early stages and not definitively answered whether or not it is simply a stab in the dark...

Cannuck said:

You're into acupuncture, so no stranger to needles. Scientific research
into how acupuncture actually works is still in its early stages and not definitively answered whether or not it is simply a stab in the dark...

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The info is out there if you know where to look.

I'll be sure to share my published work with all of you kind, benevolent souls here once published

bmugford said:

Excellent. So you are doing your part to follow the law.

There is no "holistic" cure for rabies. You either take the vaccine or you die a horrific death.

Brad

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I suspect colloidal silver would work, because rabies is caused by a pathogenic microbe.. but this wouldn't be a practical solution.

topdom said:

I suspect colloidal silver would work, because it is caused by a pathogenic microbe.. but this wouldn't be a practical solution.

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LOL... Yeah, good luck with that.

Give it a shot, worst case you end up dying a horrific prolonged death.

Brad

topdom said:

I suspect colloidal silver would work, because it is caused by a pathogenic microbe.. but this wouldn't be a practical solution.

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Better to not stand by metal in a lightning storm as a precautionary measure than to be scared of rabies.

Mathematically it is much more likely you'll be struck by lightning than be bit by a rabid animal.

topdom said:

Compassion sounds like a real anti-vax but he has reasons for being so. He did his research.

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He decided to be against all mode of commonly held scientific and medical belief and sought out "facts" to support his confirmation bias. Research has to happen on both sides.

Anyway, this thread is starting to remind me of the political thread: two or three raving loons quoting Jim Bob's Twitter account as a resource while the rest of us shake our heads and wonder how they could have possibly become this misguided.

Enjoy your crusade of weirdness.

Joe N said:

He decided to be against all mode of commonly held scientific and medical belief and sought out "facts" to support his confirmation bias. Research has to happen on both sides.

Anyway, this thread is starting to remind me of the political thread: two or three raving loons quoting Jim Bob's Twitter account as a resource while the rest of us shake our heads and wonder how they could have possibly become this misguided.

Enjoy your crusade of weirdness.

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I've cited close to ten reputable doctors in this thread - All who have more medical training and experience than does 99.99% + of the people here on NP.

You are welcome to see what they have to say.


Enjoy the mystery of life

bmugford said:

LOL... Yeah, good luck with that.

Give it a shot, worst case you end up dying a horrific prolonged death.

Brad

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Not sure about it. I evaluate my risks. For example my hand was scratched by cats while they were playing or because they were agressive (mating season) and I might have also been exposed to small amount of their saliva. Can I get tetanus or rabies. There is extremely little chance of this happening, but if it happnes, it would be very bad. So what am I supposed to do, get vaccines for each potential disease I might catch from them?.. No I take small amount of silver water and forget about it. Also I might get some immunity this way, because my body becomes familiar with some microbes.

Yes colloidal silver protects against tetanus. Someone was given tetanus toxin in 4 times the lethal amount, and also given colloidal silver. And nothing happens, he survives. (reference: I think, Bob Beck, a famous biophysicist ). (something like this, don't make such an experiment ).

There is no doubt that modern medicine, agricultural practices, and standard of living, etc. have increased life expectancy. World population has also exploded to the point that Earth's resources and the human systems that support them have become detrimental to the environment. I often question why those people who dismiss medical science also deny, refuse to admit, or take any responsibility for Climate Change. I can understand those who believe that natural medicine is healing, but if that is truly the case, why discredit observations in the natural world? If the body's natural defense against an unhealthy intruder is a rise in temperature, why would Earth's natural defenses be any different?

bmugford said:

There is no "holistic" cure for rabies.

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Please everyone get your Rabies shot,

No one wants to be bitten by a mad domainer.

oldtimer said:

Please everyone get your Rabies shot,

No one wants to be bitten by a mad domainer.

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HAHAHA


Please people - stay out of the ocean . . . Many more people were bitten by sharks in recent years than there were rabies cases here in the USA.


Better yet - don't go outside in the rain, or see if you can get a vaccine that prevents death from lightning strikes - since you are far more likely to get struck by lightning than to ever have rabies.

oldtimer said:

Please everyone get your Rabies shot,

No one wants to be bitten by a mad domainer.

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Or a crazed conspiracy cultist.