Another Scam.. I replied to this one..

namezest · Jun 4, 2017

On 2017-06-03 18:31, [email protected] wrote:
Hello!

I represent a buyer from Nagasaki who wants to buy 123abcblahblah.domain for a
new web project.

The buyer is a professional investor with a good budget.

Are you still interested in selling?

I located your contact information via whois search.

I help VIP clients of our hosting company to buy names.

If you have more names please email me the list.

Best Regards,

Sadashi Matsui

Name Broker

Zen Logic

Hosting Company

Osaka

Japan

Re: Offer to purchase 123abcblahblah.domain
From [email protected]
To [email protected]
Date Today 01:32

Message Body

Oldest scam in the book ..
No I don't need an appraisal before you even try to ask for, or offer me one.
You also forgot to mention your offer, and using a hyphenated version of the real hosting company name? That can not work using a .info which nobody buys anymore. You could actually have gotten a better domain for less

Yes I have lots of domains thanks and none of them need appraising either so.. I will not be sending you any list. I will however give you food for thought...

In future when you write your messages...

1:- Use a better domain.

2:- Actually develop it to look like you are an actual company rather than forwarding your crap domain name to the domain of the company you are trying to impersonate.

3:- Don't ask anyone if they are "still interested" in selling, especially a week old hand reg not listed anywhere for sale..

4:- When stating Offer to purchase any domain in your email subject line, don't forget to actually make an offer to purchase with a real monetary value in your message body.

Oh did you know that paying for that domain, using fake information and, impersonating a real company could land you in jail? Do you know how?

Well.... Your ip address was logged along with your real identity when you purchased the .info then you started to send your emails with the express purpose of defrauding others, with an intellect on par with your own?

Oh

you are probably going to try back tracking now, double checking to see if I am right... Just wait until you find out about your MAC address and what that bad boy does for your privacy! Remember this is the internet it would help you tremendously if you actually knew how it worked.

Overlooking the things you did with this email also makes me think you thought you were safe using a vpn, right? Chances are if you are getting schooled right now (and you know you are) you didn't check to see if you had an ip leak before using your vpn did you

.

Good luck fella, you're gonna need it.

Best Regards,

The guy in the whois info you found (which also logged you when you accessed it). Ouch.

briguy · Jun 4, 2017

Enjoyed this part..

Just wait until you find out about your MAC address and what that bad boy does for your privacy! Remember this is the internet it would help you tremendously if you actually knew how it worked.

CarlosN · Jun 4, 2017

I think is better to ignore them instead of giving them tips. IMHO.

ikhub · Jun 4, 2017

My goodness. You had the time to type such a lengthy letter? And I read it all through

Kate · Jun 4, 2017

Sending a photo of your willy would have been less time-consuming...

namezest · Jun 4, 2017

Kate said:
Sending a photo of your willy would have been less time-consuming...

LMAO

deez007 · Jun 4, 2017

Bwhahaah classic!.. That was a good read. Thanks for sharing...

I can picture the dude sitting in his chair smilling to himself thinking..."hmm MAC address? - Hahaha this guy thinks he is clever but he doesn't know I don't use a Mac, I use an HP"

frank-germany · Jun 4, 2017

got the same scam

..the domain was at privacy

so what do you do when you recieve an offer
via email that is redirected to you
but the domain itself is in privacy

as soon as you answer
privacy is a thing of the past ..

namezest · Jun 5, 2017

That is a good question I assume if your privacy was set correctly replying would use the privacy address not your real one, however you get through that too in email client by looking at source code.... Also you could have your registrar reply but if your domain is on privacy, it's fair to assume you don't intend to sell it?
If so your question there would become a moot point really... Because you wouldn't respond anyway. Or if they tried to mask their email just view source in a real email client not web mail. Privacy was a thing of the past the moment you pressed "Yes I Agree" before you even connected to any network.. Who reads the small print?

frank-germany · Jun 5, 2017

NameZest said:
That is a good question I assume if your privacy was set correctly replying would use the privacy address not your real one, however you get through that too in email client by looking at source code.... Also you could have your registrar reply but if your domain is on privacy, it's fair to assume you don't intend to sell it?
If so your question there would become a moot point really... Because you wouldn't respond anyway. Or if they tried to mask their email just view source in a real email client not web mail. Privacy was a thing of the past the moment you pressed "Yes I Agree" before you even connected to any network.. Who reads the small print?

the domain has a for sale LP at epik
email is passed through [email protected]

ASP · Jun 5, 2017

Hello everyone, I just received the same email from sadashi
Immediately I look for information about the mail and I find this forum.
but I dont understand the scam, How does it work? Thank you.

ezee · Jun 5, 2017

In Short They pretend to be interested in your domain ,they then ask you to pay for a valuation certificate ,when you do ,they will see how much more they can milk you for

ASP · Jun 5, 2017

Thank you very much.

Here is his answer:

Do you own ".net" extension? If it's yours he would be interested in purchasing it too.

Commission of our company is only 5%. It's paid by the buyer.

He will pay you via the Authorize Merchant Escrow service. They accept payment from his country and can pay you via wire, Paypal, check or any other method you prefer.

The buyer offers a price in $15,000 - $20,000 range.

Do you have a certificate? It's required by his bank.

The final sale price will depend on the certificate.

If you don't have the certificate it's not a problem. You can order it online.

Please note he cannot accept it from any agency. He needs a manual service. It also must be a third party independent agency (not your broker our auction site) and must be accepted by his bank.

The certification includes the following:

1. Independent valuation of the market price. It will show your domain name is not overpriced. On the other hand if the valuation comes higher, he will increase the price accordingly. In the domain name industry, there are many appraisal tools that people use to estimate the value of a domain name. My client does not want to risk and doesn't accept services that use scripts. If you are unsure about some service feel free to ask me.

2. TM verification. It proves your domain has no trademark problems. He would like this verification to be included in the appraisal report. It's not a problem because some companies include the TM verification for free.

You can read about certification agencies at "URL" (“Domain Broker” is my nickname).

The process is very easy:

1. Go to the certificate agency site and order a certificate. Just submit your domains and let them know you have a buyer with $XX,XXX offer. It will help you to get a better valuation.

If your domain is worth at least $1000, they will send you the payment instructions. If it's not possible, they won't send you the instructions. This way you will not lose anything. It's very convenient and gives you the full protection. Other services charge you upfront even if your domain is not worth spending the appraisal fee, so I don't recommend them.

2. Send the certificate to me and we will start the sale process. As soon as he receives your certificate he will buy your domain.

If you are new to the certification process, I can help you with the step by step instructions.

ezee · Jun 5, 2017

I will just not bother and block the email address ,waste of time and energy ,which is definitely not productive.

ASP · Jun 5, 2017

Its already blocked. Thanks you.

sarah.kate · Jun 7, 2017

I just got an email from this same "company"

I haven't had any sales yet, but I guess getting a scammer's attention is the 1st step

AndyM · Jun 8, 2017

He's changed his name to Rieko. He sent me an email just over an hour ago with the same email op has listed. I did reply with "what's your offer" but thought this has scam all over it and got the old " mail undeliverable" response from google.

davidthornton · Jun 8, 2017

NameZest said:
Oh you are probably going to try back tracking now, double checking to see if I am right... Just wait until you find out about your MAC address and what that bad boy does for your privacy! Remember this is the internet it would help you tremendously if you actually knew how it worked.

If you write about things you don't know enough about it can make you look ill informed. FYI MAC addresses work at Layer 2. IP addresses work at Layer 3.

Psychedelic.us · Jun 9, 2017

I literally just received an email from this individual. I replied, it seemed somewhat legitimate until I Googled Zen Logic Hosting, this forum came up with a warning. Thanks for sharing.

namezest · Jun 9, 2017

namesquare said:
I literally just received an email from this individual. I replied, it seemed somewhat legitimate until I Googled Zen Logic Hosting, this forum came up with a warning. Thanks for sharing.

No problem. I had to share this as many people don't know what to expect regarding these kind of emails.

namezest · Jun 9, 2017

davidthornton said:
If you write about things you don't know enough about it can make you look ill informed. FYI MAC addresses work at Layer 2. IP addresses work at Layer 3.

As someone with a lengthy background in electronic communications including hardware hacks I think I know what I'm talking about especially when it comes to security.

olivier gold · Jun 10, 2017

Hi !
I thank you for the post.
Unfortunately, (it probably is because I do not speak english perfectly) but I don't seem to understand the scam. Basically, is it that they sell domain certifications in order to make their money ? Or the domain certification service that they offer is actually a phishig website created in order to take the domain name away ?

Regards

Tunababa8v · Jun 30, 2017

deez007 said:
Bwhahaah classic!.. That was a good read. Thanks for sharing...

I can picture the dude sitting in his chair smilling to himself thinking..."hmm MAC address? - Hahaha this guy thinks he is clever but he doesn't know I don't use a Mac, I use an HP"

Savage you are! Chill you got not

kandyan · Jun 30, 2017

I think you gave him some good tips to be a professional scammer.. Sad..

NameShiba · Jun 30, 2017

Burn all the scams to the ground.

Another Scam.. I replied to this one..

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