alert The fund can't be withdrawal from Epik.com via Masterbucks wallet

[enamebroker]

It happened on 23rd Aug 2022 and this matter lasted almost one month without any process. Masterbucks.com declined my fund withdrawal and disabled the button of fund withdrawal. And I contacted Epik.com and got no further action even if Rob Monster got involved in it for two weeks. All the time I was told in email by management review.

What is wrong with Epik.com? Do you think it is normal to disable fund withdrawal? How can I get back my fund from Epik.com? Thanks for your suggestion.

 

[Derek Peterson]

Yeah, then you start digging deeper and you have things like "forever" domains.

What happens to all the money that has been collected for those?
Does "new" Epik plan to honor those liabilities?

Then you have people who have lost domains via Epik's inability to process renewals, and even some reports of domains just being transferred from an owner like Patterns.com among others.

That doesn't even include the non-domain related things like Amplify.

There are many other victims of Epik's mismanagement.

Brad

I spoke with ex employee about forever domains and it really isn't as much a I thought. Very small amount in grand scheme of things. They didn't know exact amount but thought it was less than 1k forever domains.

Yes, the lost domains is definitely real issue yet to be addressed. My premium domain I purchased epikcrimes dot com was sold to someone at another registrar like a month after I paid for it.

And, yes, you are right there are ton of other victims through Monster's other schemes, probably many we will never know about. I have seen several people complaining about losing money in amplify and substratum but I think those were before Monster bought them. Monster just stuck them on shelf and never did anything with them. Either props to entry into vertical to catch next round suckers or money laundering scam only or both. The scumbag that owned those did a rug pull and burned a bunch of people and made a couple million from Monster with JJE money for those crap projects, which was probably laundered back to monster in kickback crypto scheme.

The immediate goal should be to brand new epik as responsible for masterbucks and let them fight Monster and if new epik really is just Monster, then all the better.

 

[Mister Funsky]

There are currently 3 main categories of victims, "In-store Credits" and "Masterbucks" and "Creditors".

One of the most basic things in all of this is how will epik handle in-store and/or Mbucks balances.

If they send the money to the account holder; and/or allow those funds to be used on renewals or name registrations, there is a percentage of users that will use the funds on the website...regardless of its name at the moment.

However, if they do not make things right with those that keep their system running (domain investors) they will die on the vine.

 

[GNP]

Don't forget the victims that bought or sold domain(s) on an installment plan (or similar financial agreement).
Is the other party still getting the money or is the money reaching the "middleman" and stopping???

 

[bmugford]

Don't forget the victims that bought or sold domain(s) on an installment plan (or similar financial agreement).
Is the other party still getting the money or is the money reaching the "middleman" and stopping???

Yeah, that is another major issue.

Does "new" Epik even have these records?

If so, where is the money going?

Is it going to worthless Masterbucks?

Is some version of Epik just keeping it?

Brad

 

[Derek Peterson]

Don't forget the victims that bought or sold domain(s) on an installment plan (or similar financial agreement).
Is the other party still getting the money or is the money reaching the "middleman" and stopping???

Yes, that number is pretty big, over $20k/month currently but from what I heard Monster is keeping that real money and adding it to their masterbucks balance. So all those mortgage payments are getting converted into masterbucks, the scams never end.

 

[Derek Peterson]

Yeah, that is another major issue.

Does "new" Epik even have these records?

If so, where is the money going?

Is it still going to worthless Masterbucks?

Is some version of Epik just keeping it?

Brad

The domains are held at Epik under Monster's account. he is keeping real money and giving them masterbucks.

 

[Lox]

IMO
The aim is not only to distance E3 from E2-E1, but also to rename E3 to X1 in the near future.

E3 ... are u contemplating a rebrand in the near future and repositioning yourself? .... Merger, Acquirer on horizon?

(It doesn't take a lot of time for bots to find ..... from ....)

 

[Samer]

IMO
The aim is not only to distance E3 from E2-E1, but also to rename E3 to X1 in the near future.

E3 ... are u contemplating a rebrand in the near future and repositioning yourself? .... Merger, Acquirer on horizon?

(It does take a lot of time for bots to find ..... from ....)

Watch it be something complicated like reverse-merger. Nothing surprises me anymore:
https://www.investopedia.com/articles/stocks/09/introduction-reverse-mergers.asp
https://www.investopedia.com/terms/r/reversetakeover.asp

 

[Lox]

Watch it be something complicated like reverse-merger.
Nothing surprises me, anymore.
https://www.investopedia.com/articles/stocks/09/introduction-reverse-mergers.asp

I love the way you think, though, @Lox. Love mergers Edit: I think i meant this: Is there difference:
https://www.investopedia.com/terms/r/reversetakeover.asp

"I think" .... many will be left short or hypnotized by ...prattle... so they don't remember what happened.

IMO

 

[Samer]

"I think" .... many will be left short or hypnotized by ...prattle... so they don't remember what happened.

IMO

They will have a direct public offering (DPO) LOL. I wonder if Epik 3.0 is acquired or goes public? —You raised interesting point; “What’s end game?” I foresee some complex deal bigger than epik buying epik IMO.

 

[Lox]

They will have a direct public offering (DPO) LOL. I wonder if Epik 3.0 is acquired or goes public? —You raised interesting point; “What’s end game?” I foresee some complex transaction, bigger than epik buying epik.

I activated bots bc I just want to find out if the sale of donated domains for the "charity" landed in Nigerian (eRise) pockets or disappeared .... puff .

 

[Nick]

Is the registrar required by ICANN to keep domain transaction records (new,renewal, transfers, sales, etc) available to customers???

Records are a vital part of a business.

You can't just snap your fingers and start over from scratch.

These records are important in many situations like with accounting, ownership, WHOIS, etc.

I am not sure how a registrar could even operate without proper records.

Without proper record keeping, customers are at extreme risk.

Brad

As previously mentioned, "Registrars are required by their Registrar Accreditation Agreements (Section 3.6 of the 2009 RAA and 2013 RAA) to escrow certain registration data with an ICANN-approved Registrar Data Escrow Agent..."

3.6 Data Escrow. During the Term of this Agreement, on a schedule, under the terms, and in the format specified by ICANN, Registrar shall submit an electronic copy of the data described in Subsections 3.4.1.2 through 3.4.1.5 to ICANN or, at Registrar's election and at its expense, to a reputable escrow agent mutually approved by Registrar and ICANN, such approval also not to be unreasonably withheld by either party. The data shall be held under an agreement among Registrar, ICANN, and the escrow agent (if any) providing that (1) the data shall be received and held in escrow, with no use other than verification that the deposited data is complete, consistent, and in proper format, until released to ICANN; (2) the data shall be released from escrow upon expiration without renewal or termination of this Agreement; and (3) ICANN's rights under the escrow agreement shall be assigned with any assignment of this Agreement. The escrow shall provide that in the event the escrow is released under this Subsection, ICANN (or its assignee) shall have a non-exclusive, irrevocable, royalty-free license to exercise (only for transitional purposes) or have exercised all rights necessary to provide Registrar Services.

--> Registrar Data Escrow Agreement

--> Registrar Data Escrow Specifications

Registrars with 100K+ transactions per quarter must deposit daily, everyone else weekly.

Terra incognita. First, there is no indication that the above data should be available to registrants, only to ICANN by request, so the recent change @ epik accounts may mean nothing. Hopefully, the registrar, which is still Epik Inc as per ICANN records, still has all the data. Second, it is unclear what should happen with the above data in case of accreditation transfer [something not yet approved by ICANN], especially if a new agreement will be signed between ICANN and Epik LLC. Epik LLC may be of opinion that they have no obligation or ability to maintain historical records of another entity (Epik Holdings).

There are a handful of ICANN designated/approved data escrow service providers. At the last registrar I managed, we used Iron Mountain.

TPP escrow agents shall retain and archive two copies of all depositedescrow data for at least one year from the date of deposit. The archiveddata may be stored on its original medium (in addition to one copy) ortwo copies may be retained in another reliable form (e.g., copied to aredundant array of independent hard drives or a CD/DVD ROM)provided that checksum validation is successfully performed followingany copying or transfer of data and the files are not otherwise modifiedfrom the form in which they were deposited by the registrar. To theextent data is copied to hard drives, the TPP shall not store any twosequential, "full" deposits by the same registrar on the same drive orarray of drives.

 

[GNP]

Registrars with 100K+ transactions per quarter must deposit daily, everyone else weekly.

There are a handful of ICANN designated/approved data escrow service providers. At the last registrar I managed, we used Iron Mountain.

Thank you so much for the detailed info.

 

[Igor Gabrielan]

Hello!

Thanks very much for providing the pin!
I did take a look and can confirm that those funds for escrow took place through the Masterbucks system and do appear to have been listed as completed.
When Epik LLC bought Epik.com the Masterbucks asset was not part of the purchase agreement which means that we would need to direct you over to them to get this resolved.
Any legal inquiries, support, or payment issues for Masterbucks you would just need to email [email protected] and they will be able to help you out.

Thanks!

Kevin Sparks
30 N Gould St, Ste E
Sheridan WY 82801
(737) 301-5923
[email protected]
www.epik.com

 

[Derek Peterson]

Hello!

Thanks very much for providing the pin!
I did take a look and can confirm that those funds for escrow took place through the Masterbucks system and do appear to have been listed as completed.
When Epik LLC bought Epik.com the Masterbucks asset was not part of the purchase agreement which means that we would need to direct you over to them to get this resolved.
Any legal inquiries, support, or payment issues for Masterbucks you would just need to email [email protected] and they will be able to help you out.

Thanks!

Kevin Sparks
30 N Gould St, Ste E
Sheridan WY 82801
(737) 301-5923
[email protected]
www.epik.com

Yep. But...

 

[bmugford]

When Epik LLC bought Epik.com the Masterbucks asset was not part of the purchase agreement which means that we would need to direct you over to them to get this resolved.

What a load of BS, as predicted.

Epik believes they have no obligation to honor liabilities that are owed by Epik.

Any legal inquiries, support, or payment issues for Masterbucks you would just need to email [email protected] and they will be able to help you out.

All you have to do is shoot them a quick email and they will help you out!

Surely, they will just give you that $55K+ that has been blocked from withdrawal for like 10 months now.

Brad

 

[lambo.com]

Rob and Royce are reminiscent of Putin and Medvedev. Putin is the main criminal, and Medvedev is a drunken clown who says anything. Does Royce like bourbon?

Nonsense, Based Vlad and Dmitry Love Us.

 

[Igor Gabrielan]

I think that company Epik never transferred money to company Masterbucks.

 

[Derek Peterson]

What a load of BS, as predicted.

Epik believes they have no obligation to honor liabilities that are owed by Epik.


All you have to do is shoot them a quick email and they will help you out!

Surely, they will just give you that $55K+ that has been blocked from withdrawal for like 10 months now.

Brad

Monster does have another $280K left to spend from his leaky bucket.

 

[maheen]

Hello!
Happy Monday!
Thank you for sending us your PIN so we could check out the account for you!
You have a $0 balance in your InStore Credit.

If you are looking for Masterbucks or any funds you had in your Masterbucks account- you will have to reach out to them directly!

They are no longer a part opf EPIK and as such we have to no way to see your account with them or provide any funds from them.

They can be reached at [email protected]
You will have to reach out to them in order to obtain any funds you had.

Thank you for your patience!
Have a great day!

Kayla Stewart
Epik LLC
30 N Gould St, Ste E
Sheridan WY 82801
(737) 301-5923
[email protected]
www.epik.com

 

[Derek Peterson]

I think that company Epik never transferred money to company Masterbucks.

They transferred your money into Rob Monster's account and converted to masterbucks. thereby running an illegal escrow service, illegal exchange and a ponzi scheme all in one transaction. Criminal masterminds.

 

[bmugford]

Hello!
Happy Monday!
Thank you for sending us your PIN so we could check out the account for you!
You have a $0 balance in your InStore Credit.

If you are looking for Masterbucks or any funds you had in your Masterbucks account- you will have to reach out to them directly!

They are no longer a part opf EPIK and as such we have to no way to see your account with them or provide any funds from them.

They can be reached at [email protected]
You will have to reach out to them in order to obtain any funds you had.

Thank you for your patience!
Have a great day!

Kayla Stewart
Epik LLC
30 N Gould St, Ste E
Sheridan WY 82801
(737) 301-5923
[email protected]
www.epik.com

"Kevin Sparks", "Kayla Stewart", "Kaylee Chand"...

I am sure those are all totally real, and not just made up support names.

It's probably one person responding to these.

Brad

 

[Igor Gabrielan]

in the press release -

"In September 2022, Monster brought on a seasoned CEO, Brian Royce, to protect the interests of Epik stakeholders. Royce focused on tactical efforts to pivot Epik.com into a scalable and process-driven company."


Epik company, in order to get out of the crisis, hired the most experienced manager and site builder Royce for my $55,433. Royce corresponded with Musk, but Musk did not have my money, and Musk therefore could not hire the most experienced crisis manager Royce, which is why Twitter is still in crisis.
Working for my money, Royce brought Epik out of the crisis, and turned it into a scalable and process-driven company.
Royce constantly worked to improve the website epik.com and registration services, which raised the value of the website epik.com to several million dollars, for which the website epik.com was sold.
If, for example, someone had a cheap car, but then hired a major specialist with stolen money and tuned the car, raising its valuation to a huge price and selling the car for this huge price, then the buyer is a buyer of stolen goods and is obliged to compensate for the stolen money to whom they were kidnapped and at whose expense the car was tuned.

 

[bmugford]

in the press release -

"In September 2022, Monster brought on a seasoned CEO, Brian Royce, to protect the interests of Epik stakeholders. Royce focused on tactical efforts to pivot Epik.com into a scalable and process-driven company."

Meanwhile, in an email from Rob Monster -

Obviously both those situations can't be true. They are mutually exclusive.

The term "hijack" is used multiple other times by Rob as well.

Brad

 

[Igor Gabrielan]

"Kevin Sparks", "Kayla Stewart", "Kaylee Chand"...

I am sure those are all totally real, and not just made up support names.

It's probably one person responding to these.

Brad

I couldn't find them on LinkedIn or the web.