Brandbucket Challenges Dnbolt For Reporting Sales Data

[Dnbolt]

Hi guys today I made a final decision to join namepros. I don’t normally participate in forums discussions etc. I have BIG concern that I want to share with you and get your opinions.

Little bit about myself: l am a student, I recently developed interest in data, I am a part time domain investor, I spend most of my time creating unbeatable algorithms and finally as you may know I publish BB sales at dnbolt

About a year I started developing interests in brandabale domain. I needed to get some insight about sold domains from brandbucket but quickly learnt brandbucket doesn’t publish them. But fortunately enough we all know that in the domain name world most data is obtainable, right?

To keep things short, I have been getting emails from brandbucket asking me if I can prevent making the data crawlable by search engine technically asking me to make the content available to just myself.
Months later I got a forwarded email asking if I can obfuscate the sold domains I have listed to prevent google indexing the content. But to be honest if google index my content on search how is that my problem?
Surprisingly they have even gone the extent of contacting my hosting provider. I was a little bit upset that they contacted my hosting as I was only being helpful providing data to those who needed it and instead of getting a pat on the back for my hard work, I got accused and an invisible spanking.


My question to you is.

1. How can a marketplace try to claim ownership or exclusive rights to a domain that has been SOLD and no longer listed on the site for sale?
2. How can a SOLD DOMAIN still belong to the previous marketplace in any way, shape or or form?
3. Why can’t they be happy that I am helping them to publish sales data for free?
4. Does BB have any right to challenge Dnbolt for the kind service he renders?
5. Do I have to listen to BB and stop proving sales data to the public?


I would like to hear your thoughts thanks.

 

[Dnbolt]

Everyone please notice that when asked for personal information about himself, @Dnbolt evades, but he is not evasive when putting others' information out there.

A domain name is personal info?

 

[JimJammy]

Take down everyone's name.

What's your real name?

Do you sell on BrandBucker or not?

If yes, what is your BrandBucket profile?

Perhaps I should change my username to JJBolt and put his information out there by answering these questions for him... oh wait, that wouldn't be very fair of me would it?

A domain name is personal info?

If it's not, you can post up your names and sales as requested can't you?

 

[Dnbolt]

Perhaps I should change my username to JJBolt and put his information out there by answering these questions for him... oh wait, that wouldn't be very fair of me would it?

If it's not, you can post up your names and sales as requested can't you?

All sales are posted, if you strongly believe that I have a contract with BB as a seller then you should have been able to find that from the sales list.

 

[JimJammy]

When you sign up to BB you agree to their contact. As you have signed up to BB, then you too have a contract. As a reminder, here it is: https://www.brandbucket.com/help/faq/sellers/rules_for_sellers

Note the section that says: Information on any domain name sold at BrandBucket, including the name, price and/or logo design may not be listed on your personal website or other marketplace without BrandBucket's approval. BrandBucket retains the right to be the sole publisher of sales information in order to comply with customers' needs to make this information private at any time. Sellers publishing BrandBucket domain sales information without BrandBucket's approval risk having their BrandBucket accounts cancelled.

 

[Dnbolt]

When you sign up to BB you agree to their contact. As you have signed up to BB, then you too have a contract.

This is now like a debate. Instead of looking for faults lets look at the brighter side.

 

[Arca]

As others have pointed out, you force BrandBucket staff and BrandBucket sellers to be transparent about their domain sales, and the number of names they have sold, even though many of them have requested you not to do so.

At the same time, you hide your own name, the domain names you own, your BrandBucket portfolio, and your BrandBucket sales. I constantly keep seeing your posts about BrandBucket these days, but I still don't know anything about what you do as a domainer or as a BrandBucket seller.

Do you see the discrepancy here? It is hypocritical of you to act as a BB domain sales transparency watchdog, while simultaneous being entirely secretive about all information relating to yourself regarding the same matter.

 

[Dnbolt]

As others have pointed out, you force BrandBucket staff and BrandBucket sellers to be transparent about their domain sales, and the number of names they have sold, even though many of them have requested you not to do so.

At the same time, you hide your own name, the domain names you own, your BrandBucket portfolio, and your BrandBucket sales. I constantly keep seeing your posts about BrandBucket these days, but I still don't know anything about what you do as a domainer or as a BrandBucket seller.

Do you see the discrepancy here? It is hypocritical of you to act as a BB domain sales transparency watchdog, while simultaneous being entirely secretive about all information relating to yourself regarding the same matter.

I see your point but I have made an attempt to answer some questions. I'm considering attending a domaining event.

 

[Recons.Com]

Can this Dnbolt vs some sellers case be taken somewhere else? I want to read about BB experience, not experience of BB sellers with DNBolt.

 

[Arca]

Can this Dnbolt vs some sellers case be taken somewhere else? I want to read about BB experience, not experience of BB sellers with DNBolt.

I'd say having your name (if you haven't used WHOIS protection) and your sales exposed by dnbolt has become an integral part of the BB experience. There is no opting out, so it is unavoidable for all BB sellers.

 

[Recons.Com]

I'd say having your name (if you haven't used WHOIS protection) and your sales exposed by dnbolt has become an integral part of the BB experience. There is no opting out, so it is unavoidable for all BB sellers.

This is overtaking the whole thread. Why don't you guys open a thread called "DNBolt" and take all the grievances there? Sales exposure by a third party is not part of BB experience, with all due respect. By that logic, registering domains, discussing registries, auctions etc., credit card processing etc. are also part of "BB experience", "because that is an integral part of BB experience".

Let's keep it clean and only regarding BB staff, website, policies etc. vs BB sellers/buyers.

 

[Arca]

This is overtaking the whole thread. Why don't you guys open a thread called "DNBolt" and take all the grievances there? Sales exposure by a third party is not part of BB experience, with all due respect. By that logic, registering domains, discussing registries, auctions etc., credit card processing etc. are also part of "BB experience", "because that is an integral part of BB experience".

Let's keep it clean and only regarding BB staff, website, policies etc. vs BB sellers/buyers.

There is a direct causal relation between selling a domain as a brandbucket seller, and having the info regarding the sale displayed by dnbolt (and there is no logic in saying that this is equivalent to “registering domains, discussing registries, auctions” - because these things have nothing to do with the BrandBucket experience).

 

[Recons.Com]

There is a direct causal relation between selling a domain as a brandbucket seller, and having the info regarding the sale displayed by dnbolt (and there is no logic in saying that this is equivalent to “registering domains, discussing registries, auctions” - because these things have nothing to do with the BrandBucket experience).

Is your DNBolt interaction in anyway directed to BB management? No. Is there something that BB management can do for you to change it? No. Can all this be discussed in another thread of "DNBolt experience"? Absolutely yes! So please take it to another thread!

 

[Chris Hydrick]

So please take it to another thread!

There's an existing 5 page thread that seems to be relevant to this discussion. Perhaps we can move this discussion back there:

https://www.namepros.com/threads/brandbucket-challenges-dnbolt-for-reporting-sales-data.929431/

 

[Arca]

Is your DNBolt interaction in anyway directed to BB management? No. Is there something that BB management can do for you to change it? No. Can all this be discussed in another thread of "DNBolt experience"? Absolutely yes! So please take it to another thread!

This thread is called “BrandBucket Experience” and is a place for users to share their personal experience of being a BB user. It is not just limited to messages “directed to BB management”.

Dnbolt has continuously been making posts in this thread that have nothing to do with his own BrandBucket experience (as far as I can tell, he has not shared anything regarding his own experience with the platform, as he is highly protective of this information), yet you never complained about his steady stream of off-topic posts.

Just now, four member have tried to hold him accountable for his hypocritical pursuit of transparency, that affects users of the BB platform, indicating that his actions are indeed related to the experience of being a BB user.

If you wish to limit the scope of the discussion, you are more than welcome to open a new thread focused exclusively on messages “directed to BB management” (you could call it the “BrandBucket Support Thread”).

 

[Chris Hydrick]

If you wish to limit to scope of the discussion, you are more than welcome to open a new thread focused exclusively on messages “directed to BB management” (you could call it the “BrandBucket Support Thread”).

The full scope of this discussion is detailed in a previous thread titled, "BrandBucket challenges DNBolt for Reporting Sales Data"

Why open a new thread titled, "BrandBucket Support" when this is clearly a discussion about DNBolt reporting BB sales data?

 

[Ted Levy]

@Dnbolt You are nothing but an internet troll, a trouble-maker, and a ******** who is playing silly techie games trying to show the world how smart you are by hacking/ scraping/ (whatever it is you do), and then publishing proprietary information to the detriment of the legitimate sellers and buyers of BB names, not to mention to the management/ ownership of BB.

You are costing honest people money and then adopting some faux naive "who me?" attitude denying the reality of the harm you are doing and wrapping it all up in the glorious banner of "public service." You are a *** joke.

Please go away.

 

[Dnbolt]

@Dnbolt You are nothing but an internet troll, a trouble-maker, and a slimeball who is playing silly techie games trying to show the world how smart you are by hacking/ scraping/ (whatever it is you do), and then publishing proprietary information to the detriment of the legitimate sellers and buyers of BB names, not to mention to the management/ ownership of BB.

You are costing honest people money and then adopting some faux naive "who me?" attitude denying the reality of the harm you are doing and wrapping it all up in the glorious banner of "public service." You are a sick joke.

Please go away.

Say that to namebio.com

 

[Dnbolt]

This what @Ted Levy has to say about me. Source Ted I am inviting you to justify why you have such grief on me. I cannot see how I have offended you. Anyway this shows a lot about your understanding. I will not think much about what you said but will simply forgive you.

 

[JimJammy]

+1 to TedLevy!

 

[Dnbolt]

+1 to TedLevy!

Really? Isn't namepros all about learning and helping one another?

 

[JimJammy]

Really? Isn't namepros all about learning and helping one another?

Exactly! It is NOT for scraping BrandBucket then publishing NP members details all over the place.

 

[Dnbolt]

Exactly! It is NOT for scraping BrandBucket then publishing NP members details all over the place.

I am sorry you not making a point. Otherwise proof your case. I will not have time to argue any longer. I will continue to be productive.

 

[JimJammy]

Your entire website and your posts at NamePros detailing BB sales are proof of my point.

 

[Dnbolt]

Your entire website and your posts at NamePros detailing BB sales are proof of my point.

Are you the owner of brandbucket? Go and challenge others who discusses sales on blogs and godaddy deals. Having a go at me would not change anything.

 

[JimJammy]

Are you? Is that why you feel you have the right to post details of the sales I made with BrandBucket here at NamePros.

And everyone elses. Even though we all keep asking you to stop?