Brandbucket Challenges Dnbolt For Reporting Sales Data

[Dnbolt]

Hi guys today I made a final decision to join namepros. I don’t normally participate in forums discussions etc. I have BIG concern that I want to share with you and get your opinions.

Little bit about myself: l am a student, I recently developed interest in data, I am a part time domain investor, I spend most of my time creating unbeatable algorithms and finally as you may know I publish BB sales at dnbolt

About a year I started developing interests in brandabale domain. I needed to get some insight about sold domains from brandbucket but quickly learnt brandbucket doesn’t publish them. But fortunately enough we all know that in the domain name world most data is obtainable, right?

To keep things short, I have been getting emails from brandbucket asking me if I can prevent making the data crawlable by search engine technically asking me to make the content available to just myself.
Months later I got a forwarded email asking if I can obfuscate the sold domains I have listed to prevent google indexing the content. But to be honest if google index my content on search how is that my problem?
Surprisingly they have even gone the extent of contacting my hosting provider. I was a little bit upset that they contacted my hosting as I was only being helpful providing data to those who needed it and instead of getting a pat on the back for my hard work, I got accused and an invisible spanking.


My question to you is.

1. How can a marketplace try to claim ownership or exclusive rights to a domain that has been SOLD and no longer listed on the site for sale?
2. How can a SOLD DOMAIN still belong to the previous marketplace in any way, shape or or form?
3. Why can’t they be happy that I am helping them to publish sales data for free?
4. Does BB have any right to challenge Dnbolt for the kind service he renders?
5. Do I have to listen to BB and stop proving sales data to the public?


I would like to hear your thoughts thanks.

 

[Arca]

This is overtaking the whole thread. Why don't you guys open a thread called "DNBolt" and take all the grievances there? Sales exposure by a third party is not part of BB experience, with all due respect. By that logic, registering domains, discussing registries, auctions etc., credit card processing etc. are also part of "BB experience", "because that is an integral part of BB experience".

Let's keep it clean and only regarding BB staff, website, policies etc. vs BB sellers/buyers.

There is a direct causal relation between selling a domain as a brandbucket seller, and having the info regarding the sale displayed by dnbolt (and there is no logic in saying that this is equivalent to “registering domains, discussing registries, auctions” - because these things have nothing to do with the BrandBucket experience).

 

[Recons.Com]

There is a direct causal relation between selling a domain as a brandbucket seller, and having the info regarding the sale displayed by dnbolt (and there is no logic in saying that this is equivalent to “registering domains, discussing registries, auctions” - because these things have nothing to do with the BrandBucket experience).

Is your DNBolt interaction in anyway directed to BB management? No. Is there something that BB management can do for you to change it? No. Can all this be discussed in another thread of "DNBolt experience"? Absolutely yes! So please take it to another thread!

 

[Grilled]

So please take it to another thread!

There's an existing 5 page thread that seems to be relevant to this discussion. Perhaps we can move this discussion back there:

https://www.namepros.com/threads/brandbucket-challenges-dnbolt-for-reporting-sales-data.929431/

 

[Arca]

Is your DNBolt interaction in anyway directed to BB management? No. Is there something that BB management can do for you to change it? No. Can all this be discussed in another thread of "DNBolt experience"? Absolutely yes! So please take it to another thread!

This thread is called “BrandBucket Experience” and is a place for users to share their personal experience of being a BB user. It is not just limited to messages “directed to BB management”.

Dnbolt has continuously been making posts in this thread that have nothing to do with his own BrandBucket experience (as far as I can tell, he has not shared anything regarding his own experience with the platform, as he is highly protective of this information), yet you never complained about his steady stream of off-topic posts.

Just now, four member have tried to hold him accountable for his hypocritical pursuit of transparency, that affects users of the BB platform, indicating that his actions are indeed related to the experience of being a BB user.

If you wish to limit the scope of the discussion, you are more than welcome to open a new thread focused exclusively on messages “directed to BB management” (you could call it the “BrandBucket Support Thread”).

 

[Grilled]

If you wish to limit to scope of the discussion, you are more than welcome to open a new thread focused exclusively on messages “directed to BB management” (you could call it the “BrandBucket Support Thread”).

The full scope of this discussion is detailed in a previous thread titled, "BrandBucket challenges DNBolt for Reporting Sales Data"

Why open a new thread titled, "BrandBucket Support" when this is clearly a discussion about DNBolt reporting BB sales data?

 

[Ted Levy]

@Dnbolt You are nothing but an internet troll, a trouble-maker, and a ******** who is playing silly techie games trying to show the world how smart you are by hacking/ scraping/ (whatever it is you do), and then publishing proprietary information to the detriment of the legitimate sellers and buyers of BB names, not to mention to the management/ ownership of BB.

You are costing honest people money and then adopting some faux naive "who me?" attitude denying the reality of the harm you are doing and wrapping it all up in the glorious banner of "public service." You are a *** joke.

Please go away.

 

[Dnbolt]

@Dnbolt You are nothing but an internet troll, a trouble-maker, and a slimeball who is playing silly techie games trying to show the world how smart you are by hacking/ scraping/ (whatever it is you do), and then publishing proprietary information to the detriment of the legitimate sellers and buyers of BB names, not to mention to the management/ ownership of BB.

You are costing honest people money and then adopting some faux naive "who me?" attitude denying the reality of the harm you are doing and wrapping it all up in the glorious banner of "public service." You are a sick joke.

Please go away.

Say that to namebio.com

 

[Dnbolt]

This what @Ted Levy has to say about me. Source Ted I am inviting you to justify why you have such grief on me. I cannot see how I have offended you. Anyway this shows a lot about your understanding. I will not think much about what you said but will simply forgive you.

 

[JimJammy]

+1 to TedLevy!

 

[Dnbolt]

+1 to TedLevy!

Really? Isn't namepros all about learning and helping one another?

 

[JimJammy]

Really? Isn't namepros all about learning and helping one another?

Exactly! It is NOT for scraping BrandBucket then publishing NP members details all over the place.

 

[Dnbolt]

Exactly! It is NOT for scraping BrandBucket then publishing NP members details all over the place.

I am sorry you not making a point. Otherwise proof your case. I will not have time to argue any longer. I will continue to be productive.

 

[JimJammy]

Your entire website and your posts at NamePros detailing BB sales are proof of my point.

 

[Dnbolt]

Your entire website and your posts at NamePros detailing BB sales are proof of my point.

Are you the owner of brandbucket? Go and challenge others who discusses sales on blogs and godaddy deals. Having a go at me would not change anything.

 

[JimJammy]

Are you? Is that why you feel you have the right to post details of the sales I made with BrandBucket here at NamePros.

And everyone elses. Even though we all keep asking you to stop?

 

[Dnbolt]

Are you? Is that why you feel you have the right to post details of the sales I made with BrandBucket here at NamePros.

And everyone elses. Even though we all keep asking you to stop?

Madam have a good day, save this question for another time. Bye

 

[Grilled]

Exactly! It is NOT for scraping BrandBucket then publishing NP members details all over the place.

What NP members details has DNBolt published? I have seen no evidence of this. I've seen domain names which a WHOIS check contains email addresses and I've seen a pie chart that has abbreviated WHOIS names. I don't see how this is considered NP members details.

Do you share your brandable sales on NamePros? If not, is your concern the fact that they're being published? From my perspective, this seems to be an issue of one side trying to keep brandable domain sales private vs those who wish to make this data public.

I'm pro public sales data and that's why I support services like NameBio.com and DNBolt.com

 

[London555]

Exactly! It is NOT for scraping BrandBucket then publishing NP members details all over the place.

Why shouldn't he post them? You've stated here on NP that you have over $1.1 million in BB listed names. What you forgot to mention to the new people that read this thread is that at your current rate of selling approx. 11 names a year ( I think you said you have 500 on BB) it will take you -with renewals-about 60 years to sell those names and probably more. I have a degree in mathematics but you certainly don't need one to figure out that as your inventory winds down by 11 to 15 names a year in sales and BB adds names at even a minimal rate the probabilities of your names selling goes south exponentially. That said-I wish you the best-but let's not mislead any new people here with your $1.1 million statement. (btw I don't think you intentionally mislead anyone).

 

[GoKaizen]

I've never asked nor will I ever ask @Dnbolt to stop posting information.

Thank You for providing such a useful resource.

 

[Dnbolt]

I've never asked nor will I ever ask @Dnbolt to stop posting information.

Thank You for providing such a useful resource.

Feel much better now after @Ted Levy made feel a bit sad.