new gtlds .XYZ: From 0 to 1 million registrations in the words of the CEO

[Arpit131]

Daniel Negari posts about his journey of taking .XYZ from 0 to 1 million registrations.
The whole story is chronologically put up and provides a great account of building the .XYZ empire.

Great article and inspirational too!

Read the article on CEO.XYZ

 

[JB Lions]

Has the Netsol drop already started?

I think so. Yesterday, it was 913,00+, today it dropped another 11,394, now 902,498. This thread was only started 5 days ago. So if in fact it was almost 1 million, then it's dropped over 90,000 already.

https://namestat.org/xyz

We might have to update the thread title in the future. From almost 1 million to.........

This was interesting to me from a marketing perspective, I talked about the potential problems in a past thread. Are they going to redo those freebies or will there be big drops. Had some bloggers out there saying what great marketing this was. I was wondering what in the world they were talking about. The Netsol regs could come back and bite. When you constantly talk about reg numbers, literally blowing a horn on video. And then write blog posts talking about reg numbers, right before the drop. If those Netsol regs don't get renewed and a few hundred thousand of them get dropped, that's not going to be a good look. That's not including the non-Netsol drops. So 10,000+ drops a day, looks like Netsol drops to me. If they are, it's going to be more of the same. So next few weeks we'll get a better picture.

 

[vivaldi]

Well nothing wrong with playing fantasy games

 

[Acroplex]

Is ntldstats using different metrics? https://ntldstats.com/tld/xyz

 

[JB Lions]

Is ntldstats using different metrics? https://ntldstats.com/tld/xyz

They go into the difference between the 2 sites here:

"The discrepancy between ntldstats.com total figure and namestat.org is down to the method used to count registrations. We use the zone files (using the CZDS system from ICANN) and have counts exactly the same as RegistrarStats and very similar to others that count in a similar way. I’m about as confident as I can be that the count is accurate if just the zone files are used as the method (barring occasional pauses in the data when CZDS needs re-authorising). I’m don’t know where the additional registrations are from in ntldstats.com stats."

http://www.thedomains.com/2014/05/1...t-org-includes-fastest-growing-new-gtld-club/

The other main one, Registrar Stats has them at 933,000+ but doesn't look like that site has updated the numbers the last few days I checked.

It would make sense the numbers would be going down, unless all those freebies get renewed another year. I'm sure some bloggers might dig into the numbers a little deeper this coming week.

 

[Domainstore]

Question =>
1/Where can daily droplists be found (or pending delete lists)
of .XYZ -extention ?????
2/And also for other of the new extentions of a year ago ??

Please reply or PM me about this

 

[frostify]

Bought some really early .xyz's such as Names.xyz Programs.xyz Chatrooms.xyz ect. and I've been happy with em, even received a few tempting offers, I'm not giving up on the extension

 

[Kate]

Just did a quick zone sample.
Here are the top 100 name servers in the .xyz zone:

186521 dns1.register.com.
186520 dns2.register.com.
103157 f1g1ns2.dnspod.net.
103067 f1g1ns1.dnspod.net.
  53558 ns1.51dns.com.
  53530 ns2.51dns.com.
  34717 ns11.xincache.com.
  34703 ns12.xincache.com.
  32925 ns2.value-domain.com.
  32923 ns1.value-domain.com.
  27818 dns9.hichina.com.
  27818 dns10.hichina.com.
  25433 dns2.onamae.com.
  25433 dns1.onamae.com.
  23151 ns1.xserver.jp.
  23141 ns2.xserver.jp.
  22929 02.dnsv.jp.
  22929 01.dnsv.jp.
  22909 04.dnsv.jp.
  22909 03.dnsv.jp.
  20569 ns3.value-domain.com.
  18108 ns3.xserver.jp.
  17709 ns4.xserver.jp.
  17634 ns5.xserver.jp.
  15665 ns2.myhostadmin.net.
  15665 ns1.myhostadmin.net.
  15658 ns4.myhostadmin.net.
  15657 ns3.myhostadmin.net.
  15013 ns5.myhostadmin.net.
  15011 ns6.myhostadmin.net.
  11505 ns4.value-domain.com.
  11502 ns5.value-domain.com.
  11096 ns1.dnsdun.com.
   8269 ns1.dnsdun.net.
   7805 uns01.lolipop.jp.
   7804 uns02.lolipop.jp.
   6152 ns34.worldnic.com.
   6152 ns33.worldnic.com.
   6151 ns90.worldnic.com.
   6151 ns89.worldnic.com.
   6151 ns60.worldnic.com.
   6151 ns59.worldnic.com.
   6150 ns42.worldnic.com.
   6150 ns41.worldnic.com.
   6139 ns48.worldnic.com.
   6139 ns47.worldnic.com.
   6132 ns80.worldnic.com.
   6132 ns79.worldnic.com.
   6132 ns.123-reg.co.uk.
   6131 ns2.123-reg.co.uk.
   6130 ns36.worldnic.com.
   6130 ns35.worldnic.com.
   6128 ns78.worldnic.com.
   6128 ns77.worldnic.com.
   6125 ns72.worldnic.com.
   6124 ns71.worldnic.com.
   6121 ns68.worldnic.com.
   6121 ns67.worldnic.com.
   6118 ns40.worldnic.com.
   6117 ns39.worldnic.com.
   6112 ns74.worldnic.com.
   6112 ns73.worldnic.com.
   6110 ns92.worldnic.com.
   6109 ns91.worldnic.com.
   6108 ns22.worldnic.com.
   6107 ns21.worldnic.com.
   6105 ns54.worldnic.com.
   6104 ns53.worldnic.com.
   6103 ns20.worldnic.com.
   6103 ns19.worldnic.com.
   6099 ns84.worldnic.com.
   6099 ns83.worldnic.com.
   6094 ns32.worldnic.com.
   6094 ns31.worldnic.com.
   6093 ns52.worldnic.com.
   6090 ns51.worldnic.com.
   6088 ns56.worldnic.com.
   6088 ns55.worldnic.com.
   6081 ns6.worldnic.com.
   6081 ns64.worldnic.com.
   6080 ns63.worldnic.com.
   6080 ns5.worldnic.com.
   6080 ns4.worldnic.com.
   6079 ns3.worldnic.com.
   6074 ns70.worldnic.com.
   6074 ns69.worldnic.com.
   6071 ns16.worldnic.com.
   6071 ns15.worldnic.com.
   6061 ns18.worldnic.com.
   6061 ns17.worldnic.com.
   6060 ns8.worldnic.com.
   6060 ns66.worldnic.com.
   6060 ns65.worldnic.com.
   6059 ns7.worldnic.com.
   6058 ns2.worldnic.com.
   6057 ns1.worldnic.com.
   6053 ns30.worldnic.com.
   6051 ns29.worldnic.com.
   6048 ns26.worldnic.com.
   6047 ns50.worldnic.com.

As you can see, plenty of domains using *.worldnic.com => those are the netsol domains. Probably all pointing to a placeholder page - unless the domain owner is using netsol DNS. Otherwise all those domains are presumably undeveloped.

I counted approximately 125K unique domains using at least one netsol nameserver, but this was a quick check. A good chunk of these names are bound to drop unless autorenew is turned to on

 

[dordomai]

why so many register.com?
Netsol ?
186521 dns1.register.com.
186520 dns2.register.com.
chinese
103157 f1g1ns2.dnspod.net.
103067 f1g1ns1.dnspod.net.
chinese
53558 ns1.51dns.com.
53530 ns2.51dns.com.
chinese
34717 ns11.xincache.com.
34703 ns12.xincache.com.
japanese
32925 ns2.value-domain.com.
32923 ns1.value-domain.com.
chinese
27818 dns9.hichina.com.
27818 dns10.hichina.com
japanese.
25433 dns2.onamae.com.
25433 dns1.onamae.com.
23151 ns1.xserver.jp.
23141 ns2.xserver.jp.
22929 02.dnsv.jp.
22929 01.dnsv.jp.
22909 04.dnsv.jp.
22909 03.dnsv.jp.
20569 ns3.value-domain.com.
18108 ns3.xserver.jp.
17709 ns4.xserver.jp.
17634 ns5.xserver.jp.

I believe register.com is a netsol registration as well.

some of the domains mentioned here have register.com nameservers + worldnic.

thedomains.com/2014/06/03/did-networksolutions-com-give-away-free-xyz-domain-names/

 

[brandnow]

2 years from now on NamePros..

.XYZ: From 1 million to 0 registrations in the words of the CEO

:D

 

[DomainVP]

Are a fair share of XYZ domains numerics?

Anyone know the % distribution?

 

[dordomai]

last drop from namestat -5000, slowed down a bit.

 

[Kate]

Are a fair share of XYZ domains numerics?

Anyone know the % distribution?

If you mean pure numeric domains I counted 20776 in today's zone, that includes a total of 888424 domains.

 

[jmcc]

Is ntldstats using different metrics? https://ntldstats.com/tld/xyz

Seems to be using a combination of data sources rather than just zonefile data. There's always a discrepancy between the number of domain names in the zonefile and the number of domain names registered. Some of it is down to dark domain names but most is actually due to domain names being in the renewal/deletion process. This means that the ICANN registry data is almost always higher than the domain name count for the associated zonefile.

Regards...jmcc

 

[jmcc]

As you can see, plenty of domains using *.worldnic.com => those are the netsol domains. Probably all pointing to a placeholder page - unless the domain owner is using netsol DNS. Otherwise all those domains are presumably undeveloped.

A high percentage.

Based on the data here about projected domain deletions and hosters that have a low renewal rate in other TLDs, the proliferation of CN and JP hosters is not a good sign as some have low one year renewal rates. Discounted domain names tend to have a low renewal percentage of anything from 6% to about 18%. The freebies are also highly problematic. They may the registry look good and stuff the zonefile but development and usage tends to be quite low.

Regards...jmcc

 

[dordomai]

A high percentage.

Based on the data here about projected domain deletions and hosters that have a low renewal rate in other TLDs, the proliferation of CN and JP hosters is not a good sign as some have low one year renewal rates. Discounted domain names tend to have a low renewal percentage of anything from 6% to about 18%. The freebies are also highly problematic. They may the registry look good and stuff the zonefile but development and usage tends to be quite low.

Regards...jmcc

what are your predictions for .xyz for the next 365 days?

you say 12% are the average renewal rates for discounts and these were deep discounts.

if we say 88% of the discounts won't renew and 95% of the netsols won't renew we would see approx. 90% of the registrations dropping.

As long as they keep the promotions running(and people keep buying them) they will likely add another +500k or more this year. Perhaps more I think they didn't start with all these promos when they came out.

 

[JB Lions]

According to NameStat, last update - 5,626, now 876,363 - https://namestat.org/xyz

 

[jmcc]

what are your predictions for .xyz for the next 365 days?

It needs to keep discounting to maintain volume. It has managed to get itself into a situation where its new registrations are, to a great extent, dependent on discounting.

you say 12% are the average renewal rates for discounts and these were deep discounts.

No. I said that the renewal rates for some discounted domains can be between 6% and 18%. It is also a function of the TLD in question.

if we say 88% of the discounts won't renew and 95% of the netsols won't renew we would see approx. 90% of the registrations dropping.

That is too simplistic an interpretation. I've just finished building a prediction model for renewal rates in COM/NET/ORG/BIZ/INFO/MOBI/ASIA since 2004. The effect of discounting and other such promotions on renewal rates at a hoster/registrar level can be quite terrifying and actually, in the case of a few hosters, quite contraintuitive. Some hosters will consistently have higher renewal rates than the average in many gTLDs. There are some hosters that are almost toxic when it comes to renewal rates and they frequently have rates below 50%. That means that of new domains hosted in a particular month, 50% or more of them will not be renewed. This is fine for the registry as long as these hosters and registrars maintain their new registration levels.

As long as they keep the promotions running(and people keep buying them) they will likely add another +500k or more this year. Perhaps more I think they didn't start with all these promos when they came out.

This is a danger of relying on domainer blogs for analysis of trends in TLD registrations. Most domainers do not understand the dynamics of domain name registration trends. They only see numbers and they generally do not understand what these numbers mean. That kind of analysis is just Numerology. You have to understand what is going on in a TLD with registration patterns, distribution of registrations and utilisation of domain names. You have to be able to identify which hosters are driving trends and why. If you don't measure these things, then your predictions are just wishful thinking.

What you are going to see in .XYZ over the next few months is the Junk Dump. This is when many domains that could not be flipped, sold or developed will be dropped. However .XYZ gTLD is really two TLDs in one. It has the junk TLD where domains were given away for free and it has the paid TLD where registrants paid for their TLDs. This means that there will be two kinds of renewal rates. The hard part is distinguishing them.

Regards...jmcc