Located in The Break Room, started by Kenny, Jul 3, 2020
Donald said he would wear a mask if he looked like the Lone Ranger, only one problem with that.
I can't believe people associate wearing masks with losing their freedom or rights.
There many sides to look at when talking about masks though. I see the importance of them, but I also see how they can be bad for you.
The importance of wearing a mask depends where you are in the world, what you're doing and your own situation. Some places where covid is to the extreme, I'd probably wear a mask as often as I could while in public, but I'd be super careful with it.
A lot of people don't understand masks. People just don't know how to wear them. I see people adjusting them as they slide around their face. Touching your face is a big no-no. I wouldn't be surprised if people are more likely to catch covid by wearing a mask. Simply because they are touching their face more often. Without a mask, they probably wouldn't touch their face at all... well, they probably would. I mean, who can't put their phone down for 5 minutes? Seriously though. If I go down to the grocery store without a mask, I won't touch my face once. But, if I wear a mask, there is a high chance it will make me touch my face, either to adjust the mask or to scratch an itch.
Masks are probably best for people are who sick, helping prevent the spread from sneezing or coughing. So the idea isn't really about wearing a mask to avoid covid. They are for those who are sick, have symptoms or were possibly exposed to covid. They should wear a mask to avoid spreading to others.
Some people think if you wear a mask, you're 100% safe. A mask gives you a false sense of security. Your eyes and ears can expose you to covid as well. You could sit down on a bench and your pants could take covid home with you. Your grocery bag could pick it up. It could be on your shoes and you walk around your house with it. It could get on your pet and spread it around your home. So many things can happen.
Most masks don't even protect you from covid. If it lands on your mask, chances are, you'll still get it. I mean, you have to touch your mask sometime - even just to remove it. A lot of people reuse masks too, so they take them off and they probably put them in their pocket, bag or purse. It will then spread to things you touch frequently and you're doomed. Some people might even put their mask in with their laundry! Which can infect their clothing.
Ok, that's enough! Before I ramble on anymore....
Congratulations to your Government, because your country is exactly an example of how to proceed, and it clearly worked 100%.
1. Block borders and lock down at the very first. Yes it can hurt tourism, but it will save a lot of lives and it will be good for the rest of the country, life and industry.
2. Compulsory to wear face masks, along with sanitizer and social distancing.
3. Keep doing it until the vaccine is ready.
As you said, Thailand with a population of 70 million has had less than 3,000 infections and under 60 deaths.
Clearly Thailand, Taiwan, South Korea, Hong Kong, Japan... knew how to proceed from the very first second in order to stop the virus spread. No playing, no delaying, closing borders, mandatory face masks and social distancing from the very first second, that's it.
Totally on the contrary. Is just precisely because wearing a face mask, you are not going to touch your mouth and nose directly with your hands.
If you don't wear it, you can bet you will touch it, minimum 10 times when going to the grocery.
And is precisely because NOBODY knows if they are infected or not, why EVERYBODY must wear a face mask.
80% of infected people are asymptomatic, they don't have any symptoms of the disease, but they can fully spread the virus.
So, precisely because the most of the people don't know if they are infected or not, EVERYBODY must wear a face mask to not infect the rest of the people around them.
What most masks do, is protecting others from you. You wear a mask to protect the people around you, so they don't get infected.
So if everybody around you wear a face mask, you will be protected. That's the point.
Warning label on masks box...
"THIS PRODUCT IS AN EARLOOP MASK. THIS PRODUCT IS NOT A RESPIRATOR AND WILL NOT PROVIDE ANY PROTECTION AGAINST COVID-19 (CORONAVIRUS) OR OTHER VIRUSES OR CONTAMINANTS.
That mask will protect everybody around you, from your breath, air droplets, coughs and sneezes. That mask will protect everybody around you from getting infected, that's the point.
it won't protect them.... try spray painting with one of those masks on and tell me if you:
#1 cannot smell paint
#2 do not get paint inside the mask from breathing
You still don't get the point.
Using your example:
1. Spray using a mask covering the spray valve.
2. Spray without a mask covering the spray valve.
Then tell me, how far goes the spray stream, with a mask covering the spray valve, and without a mask.
You obviously don't understand what I'm saying. I'm not talking about directly spraying the mask.. you can spray away from the mask and the spray paint will still get inside the mask... you're talking about directly spraying the masks themselves, and when you do that, you are making the point that masks don't work.
Let me spray you in the face with a mask on, and tell me if it helps you not smell like paint all day long.
Man, I can't do nothing, if you really don't get it.
The point is to block your breath, your cough and your sneeze to go out freely from your mouth, and infect the rest of the people.
I think it's not so hard to undersand.
It's amazing how people will just spew out support one way or the other without actually basing anything off of actual science, but rather what someone else has told them.
I'd like to know how many anti-Trump people support masks, along with how many people have vested interests in masks who are also in support of masks being worn (mask domain names, stock to sale, etc)... it's sad that you even have to ask this but it's clear that some of the responses here come without any critical thinking or critical data, but rather more so personalized opinions.
So someone here is arguing with me that I can't spray through a mask going outward, but they refuse to even try to understand the concept of spray going into the mask....
It's one thing to argue with me that maybe the mirror is a reflection and is shown backwards, but when you come at me backwards then try to argue you're the mirror.. it just doesn't work that way... just like masks, they don't work that way.
They don't protect you from a virus. They (may) help some but to actually prevent and protect, no that's false... anyone claiming that would get visited by FDA and could get dragged through court even for making such statements that are totally false.
CDC Recommends Cloth Face Coverings for Use by the General Public
"The CDC recommends that members of the public use simple cloth face coverings when in a public setting to slow the spread of the virus, since this will help people who may have the virus and do not know it from transmitting it to others."
"If worn properly, a surgical mask is meant to help block large-particle droplets, splashes, sprays, or splatter that may contain germs (viruses and bacteria), keeping it from reaching your mouth and nose. Surgical masks may also help reduce exposure of your saliva and respiratory secretions to others."
WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION DATA SHOWS: ASYMPTOMATIC TRANSMISSION IS VERY RARE
After all, even with the fudged death numbers, this is just a new strain of a coronavirus. Total Mortality statistics are not elevated.
Is that check or checkmate on your king mask wearers?
You know you were rooting for the underdog.
Any mask wearers want a rematch on a different topic?
1- The average masks can't block the virus
2- Masks are effective in preventing the transmission of Covid 19
People are fighting over which one of the above statements is true, each side makes very convincing arguments to support their stance, but the logical conclusion that I arrive at tells me that both statements are true at the same time.
Well let me explain:
The average masks cannot block particles that are below a certain micron in size whether it's paint particles that have been atomized or whether it's Coronavirus which is microscopic in size these all can pass through the kind of masks that are available to the general public, even the N-95 masks which claim to be able to block 95% of these microscopic particles will still allow 5% of them to pass through (hence the name N-95) the only way to be 100% protected is to buy one of those masks that are used in biological labs.
But the average masks even the homemade cloth ones can and do block the Larger Droplets that come out of our mouths which might contain the virus. These droplets can easily get airborne when people are sneezing or even talking and can be inhaled by others if people are not wearing masks especially when people are in very close proximity of each other.
Keep in mind that if a mask is dense enough to block all the virus particles it might interfere with breathing, so it's best not to go to the extreme especially if a mask has to be worn all day, as long as everyone wears a mask that can block the Larger Droplets that are released in the air from our mouths while talking or sneezing then we all can help protect each other and take the load off of the many medical professionals and first responders who have to take care of us once we get sick.
So everyone should do their part in containing the virus by wearing a mask, washing hands, and obeying the physical distancing rules.
Be observant of those who wear masks. You will see them touching their face frequently, usually to adjust the mask because it moves. I see it all the time when I'm outside and I don't go out very often. I see people often taking their mask off to talk. Then they touch their face while putting it back on. When I go outside, I don't touch my face. Ever. I have disinfected wipes in my pockets so if I do touch anything like door handles or whatnot, I wipe my hands. When I get home, I immediately wash my hands. I then wash my keys or use wipes. I then wipe my door handle and anything I brought into the house. Maybe I'm over doing it, but it takes very little effort. While there is a tiny chance of getting covid where I am, there is still the regular flu.
WHAT FACE MASKS ACTUALLY DO TO YOUR HEALTH
Hmmm... here in Sweden we want the population to get infected.
This was debunked;
WHO flip flops more than US surgeon general;
Spreading fake news (Hope not Covid-19.)
Totally agree. From your article:
"That’s why masks are important, he said, especially when you can’t stand or sit at a distance from others."
“There is this period of time, you know, where even a professor of infectious diseases themselves wouldn’t know that I’m getting COVID,” Ryan said. “You’re not aware of your status.”
“It’s because the disease can spread at that moment that the disease is so contagious,” he said. “That’s why it has spread around the world in such an uncontained way.”
And I would add, that while the seasonal flu just has up to 3 days of incubation, the covid-19 has up to 14 days of incubation, 2 weeks of fully asymptomatic infected status but with a full spreading potential of the virus.
Add it to the fact that 80% of infected people will remain asymptomatic, and you have an spread machine ready to move, travel and infect faster than a jet.
And this, is why it is so important the use of a face mask, in order to stop this spreading machine that is covid-19, until there's an effective vaccine.
@Compassion Why “disagree”?
it ur own source said she taken out context
She literally apologized her part“fake news” 🤣
Flip- flopping is a requirement for so many mainstream stories...
Data is data.
You mean the same data she said not to draw conclusions from limited, misleading sample?
No it’s how you frame the data.
Framing Bias, if i ever saw one.
WHO is worse than the “mainstream media.”
bumbling, fumbling fo take back what she said
“Sorry to burst your agenda!!”
The data is there, the writing is on the walls for those with the eyes to see it. Like say....Sweden
Do you trust a US Senator who is a Family Physician or would you trust the mainstream media instead!? This doctor shares real data and facts....(and of course he is targeted because the truth out of the mouth of a senator doesn't match the puppet master divide and conquer fear mongering agenda)
(PS I agree the WHO isn't the most dependable source)
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