Time to invest .xyz

[Domain Monk]

After google decision is it worth investing in xyz extension? Will it's value increase?

 

[Wannabean]

It's hard to reg good 2 keyword strings in xyz now. It's done really well in terms of whats reg'd and I've seen more sites up on xyz than other new extensions too.

Still a long way to go and we need to see considerably more end user demand.

 

[Pandemic]

I thought this thread died and then saw it is still active. I have FindCoupon.xyz and its plural.. I received $250 and $140 offers already for those.

This is the exact hype that keeps people buying. Not only is FindCoupon.biz available, but there is no who-is record on findcoupon.xyz, which means you probably just bought it. Yep, a $250.00 offer, lol. It's these stories why people keep buying.

 

[Pandemic]

Anyway, I'm out. Best of luck to all and truly hope you guys all do well!

You also might want to grab findcoupon.co. It's avail right now on a hand reg.

 

[Wannabean]

Taking a chance is never really a bad thing. Even I have taken a few.

I couldn't get in on the ground floor but bought two juggernaut keywords for just over $1000. If xyz only gains parity with .net i'll x200 my investment. Just made sense to take a punt

I have no expectations whatsoever.

 

[Abdillahi Abdillahi]

This is the exact hype that keeps people buying. Not only is FindCoupon.biz available, but there is no who-is record on findcoupon.xyz, which means you probably just bought it. Yep, a $250.00 offer, lol. It's these stories why people keep buying.

So you are saying .biz is good? I thought you only liked numeric .infos as the market was going to explode :P

So you say there is no Whois record for FindCoupon.xyz? Reallly? Did theu delete my domaaaain?:P

Come on man... I suggest you change the website you use to check Whois info.

I like when someone tells me they sont believe I received offer for on of my domains.

But it is OK. I will hire someone and publish screen shots of every offer I receive.

Btw, Are we good on .infos? You know I bought some because of the hype you created and expect to make a lot of money :P

 

[Abdillahi Abdillahi]

Pandemic , when your whois searcher failed you, you assumed the domain is available and I am makong out these $140-$250 offers? Ouuuuch.

That does look bad man. But it is OK. Blame your whois searcher lol

 

[DaveX]

Just thought I would throw my two cents in. The new gTLDS have made it easier for individuals and businesses to get a domain name with exactly what they want LOTD. However, increasingly, folks are finding that what is ROTD is critically important in order for others to find them.

As for .xyz, I can tell you this. The team over at .xyz are doing everything they can to sell what they have. I even bought a few and got very lucky. I entered their contest for the best .xyz domain name...and won $1000. They paid immediately, and for that, I am grateful to .xyz. I even had the opportunity to meet the team, including Daniel, and spend a little time talking. They have big plans for the future, and it includes other gTLD's, outside of .xyz. Even their eggs are not in one basket.

However, as an investment, I have found that xyz is confusing and phonetically speaking, it is difficult to say.
I have also found, in my personal experience, that it is much easier to sell other extensions like .com, .net, .org, .co, .cc and others. Personally, I see no point in gTLD's for end-users. The jury is still out on the SEO factors.

In closing, let me share something that everyone here should know. What sells here in this forum is what people should be buying for the most part. Learn from the experience of others, read blogs like domaining.com and most of all....have a realistic plan when you buy a domain, .xyz or any. Quick flip, develop, hold. Whatever the case, don't look for reinforcement AFTER you bought a domain, look at trends and your plan BEFORE you buy a domain.

Just my two cents.

 

[Abdillahi Abdillahi]

Just thought I would throw my two cents in. The new gTLDS have made it easier for individuals and businesses to get a domain name with exactly what they want LOTD. However, increasingly, folks are finding that what is ROTD is critically important in order for others to find them.

As for .xyz, I can tell you this. The team over at .xyz are doing everything they can to sell what they have. I even bought a few and got very lucky. I entered their contest for the best .xyz domain name...and won $1000. They paid immediately, and for that, I am grateful to .xyz. I even had the opportunity to meet the team, including Daniel, and spend a little time talking. They have big plans for the future, and it includes other gTLD's, outside of .xyz. Even their eggs are not in one basket.

However, as an investment, I have found that xyz is confusing and phonetically speaking, it is difficult to say.
I have also found, in my personal experience, that it is much easier to sell other extensions like .com, .net, .org, .co, .cc and others. Personally, I see no point in gTLD's for end-users. The jury is still out on the SEO factors.

In closing, let me share something that everyone here should know. What sells here in this forum is what people should be buying for the most part. Learn from the experience of others, read blogs like domaining.com and most of all....have a realistic plan when you buy a domain, .xyz or any. Quick flip, develop, hold. Whatever the case, don't look for reinforcement AFTER you bought a domain, look at trends and your plan BEFORE you buy a domain.

Just my two cents.

Good point there.

 

[EzySpot]

For me there's nothing to loose... it is a $1 domain guys..atleast for now...if is not sell then use it...1 year reg for a dollar with abc.xyz is on the news...i've say i got nothing to loose...

 

[80-20]

Regarless of the extension, a premium name is AlWAYS premium.

Yeah, there are PREMIUM names and premium names.
The former are all in .com

 

[Salai Domains]

I'm selling all of my .xyz ... .

daggers.xyz
betinlasvegas.xyz
betinvegas.xyz
bjcn88.xyz
bjcn888.xyz
calltome.xyz
changecash.xyz
daggers.xyz
deliverynow.xyz
dollarfast.xyz
earncash.xyz
eurofast.xyz
findalove.xyz
helpchildren.xyz
inyourhouse.xyz
poundfast.xyz
showmethemoney.xyz
traveltobrazil.xyz
traveltocaribe.xyz
traveltolasvegas.xyz
traveltolosangeles.xyz
traveltomiami.xyz
traveltonewyork.xyz
traveltousa.xyz
washcar.xyz
winlottery.xyz
wondertravel.xyz
yourwishlist.xyz

chineses .xyz
rtwww.xyz
stwww.xyz
tk88.xyz
wx88.xyz
zywww.xyz

 

[james haw]

The scarcity of good .com domains is nothing new, in fact the best domains were already gone in 1996.

I'm not talking about single word or even 2 word super premium etc taken since the 90s, these are in a league of their own and would likely continue to be worth the same (or more) even if xyz or some other extension took over from .com.
I'm talking about just general business names, 2 or 3 word basic business names which are the bulk. It's the "bulk" which has more effect on change.

And if you agree that .com is scarce and has been for some time, then surely you agree that there will come a time they run out? Or do you think that they just keep getting recycled? You have to factor in population and business growth, more domainers, more business, more demand. More demand means the same finite number of "good" domain names cannot just keep re-circulating around. It's mathematically impossible.

They will eventually run out. How long is another argument, but I never predicted a time, just that eventually it will happen.

the new generation is no less 'biased' than the older generation.

The new generation bias is only passed on from the old generation, besides, I never mentioned "biased" I specifically said "new generations do things differently" and "they won't mind using new TLDs over .com", even if .com retains it's higher value and exclusivity.

Dreaming about the future is one thing, but we must also acknowledge the reality of the present.

I'm not dreaming about anything, I'm talking about basic causality, which requires me to already be acknowledging the present

in theory there is no limit to the number of domains in a given zone

There is a finite limit, it's mathematical not theory, but the entire point is there is most certainly a low limit of "decent" domains.

People do not simply keep desperately adding another word on just so they can have a dot com. After 4 or even 5 words the value is so low that another extension will naturally rise up for 1 and 2 words, and take 4 or 5 word .com's place as being more valuable - and thus more widely used.

It's a flawed argument, even in the West, few people own a domain name.

Many single people/businesses own thousands of domain names, which goes towards making up for the ones who own none.

My point of growth is valid, and you seem to insinuate that I meant "80 million more domain sales per year".
I never stated any domain name sale growth levels from the popularity increase, just that it exists. The "80 million" was just a fact to show that population is increasing rapidly, and a percentage of that will have some demand on domain names. I never stated how much, nor from which regions, just that a percentage will be present and affect availability.

Every single person from that 80 million per year population increase either owns or works for a business, and it's getting to the point where nearly all businesses have a domain name/website. I'm not saying it therefore balances out, probably not even close, just that it's present and so has to cause a change.

Especially when the population increase is going to take place in areas where the Internet is less mature. For example, if you are thinking of Africa, most African ccTLDs are underutilized, with very modest registration counts in the thousands, or even in the hundreds.

I agree, and never suggested otherwise




My entire point was simply that "it will happen", it has to- and I mean mathematically, not "Oh please, it's just gotta, tell me it's so" :D

I made some observations as to reasons why I know it will happen, but analysing my observations as single arguments and negating my primary point in your analysis takes my arguments out of context, and shows them as meaningless. The things I noted, like "80 million people per year", was just an observation of a contributing factor.








TL;DR; - My point

.com running out (or very low) on available and cost effective decent business domain names means another TLD has to rise up. It could be net, xyz. That depends on what business and people like and start buying.

Whether that takes 10 or 100 years, or more, it will happen.

A finite number (of "decent" .coms)
+ increasing usage and thus diminishing availability
= zero remaining​

(time is the only unknown factor)


All that said, there is currently no evidence that XYZ will be "it". But I see no reason why it couldn't be, probably along with other changes such as popular newgTLDs like ".site" and ."online". The internet will change, and .com may remain king, but others will rise up

 

[Pandemic]

Btw, Are we good on .infos? You know I bought some because of the hype you created and expect to make a lot of money :P

I saw the ones you bought, You kicked some butt on that and got some great ones.
Hand reg'ing numerics is done and now we wait. 9393.info was at $170.00 bid this morning with 4 days left. It's beating .co and .org. You did good on your buys with that.

 

[james haw]

this is a common myth with new domainers Im afraid, you need to read through all the old "new" extension threads as well

You missed my entire point

I have read all about it. I disagree that just because [insert old failed TLDs] did not do so well in the past that [insert different new TLDs] will not now or in the future.

Horses for courses

 

[gilescoley]

You missed my entire point

ok James, good luck, let me know how it goes

 

[james haw]

ok James, good luck, let me know how it goes

Likewise

Wait, how what goes? Did you presume I think xyz is worth investing in now? As my post said nothing about that, just that at some point, maybe 2-3 or 20-30 years, decent .com will be scarce and something else will rise up. Maybe xyz, maybe something else.

 

[Archangel]

I've always said gambles are worth taking, so long as you can afford the risk. I've tried my hand in .info (it succeeded, mostly), .co (my returns barely covered my losses), and even .mobi (Ha...). Gambles are good

My initial message in this thread was pointing out that there are 0% reason anywhere I've seen in this tread for investing in .xyz other than cookie-cutter logic that applies to most new extensions. If I could get a category-killer .xyz cheap, I'd be willing to take the risk. But all these fake "I have an offer on my worthless FindCoupon.xyz!" reports scare me :p

I couldn't get in on the ground floor but bought two juggernaut keywords for just over $1000. If xyz only gains parity with .net i'll x200 my investment. Just made sense to take a punt

I have no expectations whatsoever.

 

[Alessandro Couteau]

Wines - the plural kills this one, and then the extension makes it worse
Whiskey - not the correct the spelling (I know you are going to send me google or wiki links showing places where people have spelt it like that, its still not correct)

I honestly would not have rend-regged these names, and you will find most domainers wouldnt have either

@james haw....this is a common myth with new domainers Im afraid, you need to read through all the old "new" extension threads as well

Wow first off think before you speak. Whisky denotes Scottish brand and Whiskey like Jack Daniels "only the most popular in the world" denotes American made which is more popular then Whisky. Now you just learned something. Wine.com sold for $3.3M and wines.com sold for $2.9M ... A $400k difference ?! Lol. I didn't hand Reg these names. You can see what I paid for them at auction. I've invested tens of thousands in these names; not just XYZ but GTLDs as a whole... Please do you're research on Whiskey and Whisky ... And don't misinform people that it's wrong spelling. Lol, because it's not...

 

[Archangel]

It's not a misspelling. Some countries use whisky and others whiskey. Man, the old whisky.com/whiskey.com thread comes to mind.

 

[gilescoley]

Wow first off think before you speak. Whisky denotes Scottish brand and Whiskey like Jack Daniels "only the most popular in the world" denotes American made which is more popular then Whisky. Now you just learned something. Wine.com sold for $3.3M and wines.com sold for $2.9M ... A $400k difference ?! Lol. I didn't hand Reg these names. You can see what I paid for them at auction. I've invested tens of thousands in these names; not just XYZ but GTLDs as a whole... Please do you're research on Whiskey and Whisky ... And don't misinform people that it's wrong spelling. Lol, because it's not.

It's not a misspelling. Some countries use whisky and others whiskey. Man, the old whisky.com/whiskey.com thread comes to mind.

Stop comparing .COM sales, thats all you ever do, its really not relevant, even a a total mispelling like Wisky.com in .COM is worth 1000 times a .xyz, so try and avoid using .com sales as any kind of comparison

You can explain all you want, we all know what the more common spelling is. You can read different articles everywhere about whether its 2 different spirits, a mispelling, or 2 different spellings of the same word

Some say its the same spirit, some say it depends what country you are from as to how you spell it

http://www.mensjournal.com/food-drink/drinks/the-proper-spelling-of-whisky-or-is-it-whiskey-20150331

http://www.thekitchn.com/whiskey-vs-whisky-whats-the-di-100476

I assume you are a "Whisky" expert and know the difference?? (hope it wasnt from wikipedia)