Time to invest .xyz

[Domain Monk]

After google decision is it worth investing in xyz extension? Will it's value increase?

 

[Eckhart]

We're taking about LLL NNN NNNN

We were talking about the list you displayed, which is 4L's and a some mixed, because 3L's and 3N's are liquid in tons of gTLDs

The point is finding acceptable risks with potential high returns.

I agree with acceptable risks but this isn't one, unless you experiment with 2% of your budget which is acceptable, so if you have $45,000 to buy domains, spending $900 on this should be acceptable.

 

[gilescoley]

I am not going any further with you on this nonsense.

Probably a good idea...

I do think its crazy to invest any random LLLL.xyz names. If you really are going to take this risk, stick to the best keywords, even if you have to pay a bit more for them, its the only hope of making some kind of profit

 

[ikehook]

We were talking about the list you displayed, which is 4L's and a some mixed, because 3L's and 3N's are liquid in tons of gTLDs



I agree with acceptable risks but this isn't one, unless you experiment with 2% of your budget which is acceptable, so if you have $45,000 to buy domains, spending $900 on this should be acceptable.

Lol you quoted me saying they're the opposite of liquid, when I was referring to the 3Ls and numerics, sooo that's what I was talking about, I figured you were too since you quoted me.

Obviously these aren't liquid right now, because we wouldn't be having this ridiculous conversation if they were.

And I have to laugh again, you're seriously telling me that my assessment of what I deem acceptable may be inaccurate depending on the percentage of my overall investment?

Come on man, that's just crazy, especially since you have no clue what my budget is or if I even subscribe to your arbitrary 2%. Not to mention that it's all expiramenting and speculation to some degree.

I'm willing to lose the $900 that's all that really matters. Since I have a small fraction of the inventory that's now sold out, there's a hell of a lot of people that probably went over your 2% mark.

 

[james haw]

It's always the same fallacy.

First of all, almost all extensions are 'growing'. A few are losing numbers though. But generally speaking people are buying names in pretty much any TLD that is more or less open. So there is natural growth all across the board.

Therefore, some of the demand for domain names is of course 'spilling over' to the less popular extensions. Nothing new here. But that doesn't mean people will pay a lot. In fact, they will normally pay no more than regfee. They might buy a name in .whatever if it's available, but not if it's already taken by a domainer. Because it's not their first choice, they will move on to another domain/TLD.

If you look at reported sales, they always take place in the most popular extensions for a reason, the rest are exceptions.
That's why speculating in outlier extensions is hard.
That's what we are here for, to sell domains right.

Right now, there is a lot of marketing and hype about .xyz, so people are buying .xyz because they've been told it's 'cool'. But the momentum will only last that long. We have yet to see serious development in the extension. People will not take .xyz seriously if all they get is spam and scam. There is a real danger here, webmasters are still shunning .biz/.info due to the abuse that took place years ago and the lack of legitimate sites.

'Rise up' is very relative, when the 'legacy' TLDs are still outgrowing the new extensions.
The gap between new and 'established' extensions is widening over time, so the new extensions actually look less and less popular in comparison. It's another overlooked fact.

PS: I can tell you one thing, in Europe (where I live), the local extensions are often preferred to .com, or second to .com - that depends on the market. End users will usually want either or both, but there is virtually zero interest in new extensions in those mature markets.

Even the end users who already own domain names, are not familiar with the new extensions. They may vaguely know they exist, but they don't visit their registrar every day, and they don't buy domains every day either. Their awareness is patchy.
There has to be awareness before the demand follows.

IMO domainers should go out more, and mingle with business owners and ordinary persons who are not domainers

I don't really disagree with everything you said. But you're talking about things in the "now" and not really the point I was making.

some of the demand for domain names is of course 'spilling over' to the less popular extensions. Nothing new here. But that doesn't mean people will pay a lot. In fact, they will normally pay no more than regfee. They might buy a name in .whatever if it's available, but not if it's already taken by a domainer. Because it's not their first choice, they will move on to another domain/TLD.

I agree, but that wasn't my point at all. That is "now" and perhaps "1 years time" too, I am not really giving a time of when it will happen, but demand will enforce the necessity for the world to readily and with great popularity use extension(s) other than .com. This brings about price increase, and so we end up trading heavily in .xyz or something else, just like we do with .com because .com by that time is much much more exclusive due to low availability.

It may take 100 years, but .com will eventually have so little availability that other extension(s) will step up.



IPv4 was a finite number of addresses, and decades ago we knew they were going to run out. And they did a few years ago, even though unused ones were forced back to the pools, lease times were drastically reduced, and they were heavily rationed for years too. But demand simply outgrow availability, it was inevitable.

 

[DaveX]

On a better note, I bought a name here a month ago for 170 and looks like I should double my money after commission on GD auction closing later today.

 

[Eckhart]

I'm willing to lose the $900 that's all that really matters. Since I have a small fraction of the inventory that's now sold out, there's a hell of a lot of people that probably went over your 2% mark.

I'm sure you're willing to lose it since it's a gamble, and yes, it's hard to maintain a 2% rule on crazy investments, so most people won't do it, which is one of the reason they lose money but it's their choice, jackpot may come their way, you never know.

 

[Domain Shane]

No disrespect intended, but what made you think these would ever be worth owning? Pretty much your entire list would be regfee even in .net.

Investing a bit in a new extension isn't bad, but you can't do it absentmindedly. You more or less threw $900 away. And you coulda done something great yet instead, you regged domains that could never really be worth $1 per.

Again, no disrespect intended. I'm just trying to understand.

You simply have no idea and are pretending that you do. Hand regged for $24 total 885.xyz, 883.xyz, and 543.xyz. I guess I wasted my money too.

 

[Wannabean]

Hand regged for $24 total 885.xyz, 883.xyz, and 543.xyz. I guess I wasted my money too.

Wish I was around when xyz launched to pick up stuff like this for reg fee.

I tried to buy some NNN.xyz from a reseller on here in September. They had tons of them and wouldn't budge from $1000 per domain!

 

[Casey L]

on the bright side, I did stay at a holiday inn express last night...

 

[Domain Shane]

I haven't seen any NNN.xyz to buy except at auction. I would if I could

 

[Wannabean]

I haven't seen any NNN.xyz to buy except at auction. I would if I could

The only ones I can find now are at sedo and flippa. Most are on make offer but there are some on Sedo bin for $3000+.

 

[Pandemic]

If xx.xyz sold for only 59k, not sure what that means for the other .xyz names. Can't be too good.

 

[AlokDomain]

I have got NewZ.xyz, what you folks say about it

 

[maxtorz]

Data speaks for itself, just look up sales on Namebio:
Month of December: 4 sales reported;
Month of November: 5 sales reported;
Month of October: 5 sales reported;

Let's be honest...unless you sell some of those .XYZ domains in the first year of registration, you are not gonna renew all 100s you bought.
Currently Uniregistry charges $12.88/year renewals on XYZs.
"They" created the "hype" and we all bought into it, some more some less.
I am not holding my breath on .xyz

I know, Zandibot invested heavily in XYZ, curious to know if he sold any??? Really he could gives us more insight on this as I know he owns in the THOUSANDS.

 

[maya-zir]

I have about 15 .xyz, I paid less than $1 for each one.
I will renew just few of them: one that I plan to develop and the second one I already use for my portfolio.
Personally I preffer .xyz, because the extension is easy to remember.

 

[ison]

XYZ will experience a short-term correction in the next few years, and there will be massive drops due to the hundreds of thousands of free and almost free regs. However, it has something that most other new extensions can only dream of - a powerful anchor in the form of Google. With that in mind, it would not be wise to ignore the long-term potential of XYZ. After all, a couple of them fetched six-figure amounts over the past year.

 

[Jason.tv]

Anyone want to dev record.xyz with me?

 

[BrandChimp]

I have been renewing my top xyz names since 2014 and sold 1 to an end user

 

[maxtorz]

I have been renewing my top xyz names since 2014 and sold 1 to an end user

Awesome! How many XYZ names do you own?

 

[DNGear]

Some enduser xyz sites, which i knew.

West.xyz
Liquidity.xyz
DebtRelief.xyz
Linx.xyz
Genii.xyz
Tensor.xyz
Elsewhere.xyz