The USA Political Thread

[lennco]

Here you can spout your USA political views.

Rules:
1. Keep it clean
2. No fighting
3. Respect the views of others.
4. US Political views, No Religious views
5. Have fun

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[JB Lions]

Sounds like the quid pro quo is going nowhere. Just an endless investigation.

You really need to use better sources, you're so misinformed on things.

GOP senators prepared to acknowledge quid pro quo, plan to argue it was legal: report
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate...ledge-quid-pro-quo-plan-to-argue-it-was-legal

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This investigation, interviewing people, gathering evidence is a normal part of the process, it's not supposed to be public, that comes later. Even with that, you have 40 Republicans sitting in, some like Jordan apparently have been funneling information to Trump, which is against the rules. Specifics that is, they say they're just giving general characterizations if you believe that bs.

From the reporting, they say next week is another round of interviews, most won't show up. Then the week after is when they'll start releasing stuff publicly, transcripts and such**. The public trial could come this month. It should all be done this year. They want to move as quickly as possible with this because they know people lose interest.

**Schiff says transcripts from impeachment inquiry interviews could come 'as early as next week'
https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/31/poli...nquiry-interview-transcripts-cnntv/index.html

 

[enlytend]

lol...Nobody is more full of Sh!t then these two,

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Does Jordan even own a jacket? Or is he having hot flashes?

Just curious!

 

[mr-x]

You really need to use better sources, you're so misinformed on things.

GOP senators prepared to acknowledge quid pro quo, plan to argue it was legal: report
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate...ledge-quid-pro-quo-plan-to-argue-it-was-legal

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This investigation, interviewing people, gathering evidence is a normal part of the process, it's not supposed to be public, that comes later. Even with that, you have 40 Republicans sitting in, some like Jordan apparently have been funneling information to Trump, which is against the rules. Specifics that is, they say they're just giving general characterizations if you believe that bs.

From the reporting, they say next week is another round of interviews, most won't show up. Then the week after is when they'll start releasing stuff publicly, transcripts and such**. The public trial could come this month. It should all be done this year. They want to move as quickly as possible with this because they know people lose interest.

**Schiff says transcripts from impeachment inquiry interviews could come 'as early as next week'
https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/31/poli...nquiry-interview-transcripts-cnntv/index.html

I was quoting Nancy Pelosi.

There is always a Q-P-Q attached to foreign aid, so I don't see how that contradicts what I posted. They will keep looking for other charges.

"could" be Schiff is seeing the polling numbers reverse. Nothing that guy does is honest.

 

[JB Lions]

I was quoting Nancy Pelosi.

There is always a Q-P-Q attached to foreign aid, so I don't see how that contradicts what I posted. They will keep looking for other charges.

"could" be Schiff is seeing the polling numbers reverse. Nothing that guy does is honest.

Yes, and I was quoting you about the endless investigation. Thanksgiving was a time always used, nothing new. As far as QPQ, this time it's literally against the law, no, it isn't always like that. I understand that's the angle they're going to try to work, see link I posted above. So we have Republicans that don't believe in the Constitution/rule of law I guess.

 

[lennco]

Does Jordan even own a jacket? Or is he having hot flashes?

Just curious!

Actually, he does have a Jacket, and his Jacket has its own twitter page

Jim Jordan's Jacket
https://twitter.com/jjordansjacket?lang=en

 

[mr-x]

Yes, and I was quoting you about the endless investigation. Thanksgiving was a time always used, nothing new. As far as QPQ, this time it's literally against the law, no, it isn't always like that. I understand that's the angle they're going to try to work, see link I posted above. So we have Republicans that don't believe in the Constitution/rule of law I guess.

Literally.. not against the law.

LTC Vindman: He told lawmakers that he was deeply troubled by what he interpreted as an attempt by the president to subvert U.S. foreign policy.

President Sets foreign policy, not deep state. Biden is corrupt. Nothing they could get the senate or even the entire house to vote on.

 

[JB Lions]

Literally.. not against the law.

LTC Vindman: He told lawmakers that he was deeply troubled by what he interpreted as an attempt by the president to subvert U.S. foreign policy.

President Sets foreign policy, not deep state. Biden is corrupt. Nothing they could get the senate or even the entire house to vote on.

No, it is illegal. You lying about it doesn't change that fact. We've already went over this many times.

FEC Chair, Again: Soliciting Foreign Election Help Is Illegal

 

[mr-x]

No, it is illegal. You lying about it doesn't change that fact. We've already went over this many times.

FEC Chair, Again: Soliciting Foreign Election Help Is Illegal

Multiple ways to interpret what happened. If you hate the President like LTC Vindman, you'll have a different view.

 

[JB Lions]

Multiple ways to interpret what happened. If you hate the President like LTC Vindman, you'll have a different view.

Illegal. I guess if somebody robbed a bank, and I said that's against the law, you would tell me that it was just my interpretation.

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Smugglers are sawing through new sections of Trump’s border wall

"Smuggling gangs in Mexico have repeatedly sawed through new sections of President Trump’s border wall in recent months by using commercially available power tools, opening gaps large enough for people and drug loads to pass through, according to U.S. agents and officials with knowledge of the damage.

The breaches have been made using a popular cordless household tool known as a reciprocating saw that retails at hardware stores for as little as $100. When fitted with specialized blades, the saws can slice through one of the barrier’s steel-and-concrete bollards in a matter of minutes, according to the agents, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly about the barrier-defeating techniques."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/s...s-of-trumps-border-wall/ar-AAJJ8Zc?li=BBnb7Kz

 

[lennco]

Illegal. I guess if somebody robbed a bank, and I said that's against the law, you would tell me that it was just my interpretation.

You and I would say it was it was an illegal robbery but mr-x would say they were taking out an unsecured long term loan with no obligation to pay it back.

Smugglers are sawing through new sections of Trump’s border wall

"Smuggling gangs in Mexico have repeatedly sawed through new sections of President Trump’s border wall in recent months by using commercially available power tools, opening gaps large enough for people and drug loads to pass through, according to U.S. agents and officials with knowledge of the damage.

The breaches have been made using a popular cordless household tool known as a reciprocating saw that retails at hardware stores for as little as $100. When fitted with specialized blades, the saws can slice through one of the barrier’s steel-and-concrete bollards in a matter of minutes, according to the agents, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly about the barrier-defeating techniques."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/s...s-of-trumps-border-wall/ar-AAJJ8Zc?li=BBnb7Kz

I guess that fence isn't all that Beautiful and Perfect after all

 

[enlytend]

Students for Trump co-founder pleads guilty to $46,000 fraud scheme
https://www.foxnews.com/us/students-for-trump-co-founder-pleads-guilty-in-46000-fraud-scheme

“The fish rots from the head down...”

 

[mr-x]

Illegal. I guess if somebody robbed a bank, and I said that's against the law, you would tell me that it was just my interpretation.

False comparison.

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Smugglers are sawing through new sections of Trump’s border wall

"Smuggling gangs in Mexico have repeatedly sawed through new sections of President Trump’s border wall in recent months by using commercially available power tools, opening gaps large enough for people and drug loads to pass through, according to U.S. agents and officials with knowledge of the damage.

The breaches have been made using a popular cordless household tool known as a reciprocating saw that retails at hardware stores for as little as $100. When fitted with specialized blades, the saws can slice through one of the barrier’s steel-and-concrete bollards in a matter of minutes, according to the agents, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly about the barrier-defeating techniques."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/s...s-of-trumps-border-wall/ar-AAJJ8Zc?li=BBnb7Kz

Makes them easier to catch though

 

[Domainace]

Your word for today: Dezinformatsiya.

You use an awful lot of Russian here. A bit odd for someone who is calling everyone else a Russian asset. Sure you're not earning a few rubles on the side for sowing fear?

 

[GILSAN]

 

[JB Lions]

Getting booed at the World Series, now getting booed at MMA:

VIDEO: Donald Trump Gets Booed at Madison Square Garden During Entrance to UFC 244

https://www.12up.com/posts/video-do...arden-during-entrance-to-ufc-244-01drqfy2bp8v

this reality triggers Jr.

@DonaldJTrumpJr
Despite the bullshit from blue checkmark Twitter, when we walked into the arena it was overwhelmingly positive.
@danawhite
said it was the most electrifying entrance he seen in 25 years of doing this.
@ufc
sh

responses
Replying to
@DonaldJTrumpJr
@realDonaldTrump
and 2 others
You know there are videos all over Twitter tonight, don't you? #TrumpBooed

@JoshuaPotash
· 4h
Inside Madison Square Garden right now Trump is getting booed. And outside the crowd is chanting: “LOCK HIM UP!”
https://twitter.com/JoshuaPotash/status/1190823061999804416

I guess he'll spend the rest of his years holed up at Mar A Lago if he wants to escape that kind of thing.

 

[.X.]

Getting booed at the World Series, now getting booed at MMA:

VIDEO: Donald Trump Gets Booed at Madison Square Garden During Entrance to UFC 244

https://www.12up.com/posts/video-do...arden-during-entrance-to-ufc-244-01drqfy2bp8v

this reality triggers Jr.

@DonaldJTrumpJr
Despite the bullsh*t from blue checkmark Twitter, when we walked into the arena it was overwhelmingly positive.
@danawhite
said it was the most electrifying entrance he seen in 25 years of doing this.
@ufc
sh

responses
Replying to
@DonaldJTrumpJr
@realDonaldTrump
and 2 others
You know there are videos all over Twitter tonight, don't you? #TrumpBooed

@JoshuaPotash
· 4h
Inside Madison Square Garden right now Trump is getting booed. And outside the crowd is chanting: “LOCK HIM UP!”
https://twitter.com/JoshuaPotash/status/1190823061999804416

I guess he'll spend the rest of his years holed up at Mar A Lago if he wants to escape that kind of thing.

Those people are paid to yell out shit and protest, that is why they are usually outside of the events that these things happen at.

 

[JB Lions]

Those people are paid to yell out sh*t and protest, that is why they are usually outside of the events that these things happen at.

Talking about the people inside. Outside his rallies, he's really despised. This doesn't bode well for reelection. America is going to stand up, send him packing. Some of you were Never Trumpers then folded. It's never too late to get back on the right side. History isn't going to look kindly back to this time and to those who supported him. In the future, it'll be one of those dark, family type of secrets. Kids will be snooping around the closet one day, find some MAGA gear and lose it.

 

[.X.]

Talking about the people inside. Outside his rallies, he's really despised. This doesn't bode well for reelection. America is going to stand up, send him packing. Some of you were Never Trumpers then folded. It's never too late to get back on the right side. History isn't going to look kindly back to this time and to those who supported him. In the future, it'll be one of those dark, family type of secrets. Kids will be snooping around the closet one day, find some MAGA gear and lose it.

History isn't going to look good for Nancy Pelosi for exonerating Donald Trump of the accusations made, although i feel Pelosi didn't want to enter into what is to come, for the party's sake as she stayed back and away from Impeachment proceedings until completely backed against a wall. None the less she signed off on it and the rest will roll down into history.

 

[.X.]

It was a HUGE disappointment for me, and millions of others as well i would think when the Democratic party swung into a Socialistic party. I used to admire many many Democratic officials throughout my life.

Socialism doesn't just break a country, It breaks a countries people as well.

Perhaps a new party will surface, but it will take a while for people to gain trust.

 

[JB Lions]

It was a HUGE disappointment for me, and millions of others as well i would think when the Democratic party swung into a Socialistic party. I used to admire many many Democratic officials throughout my life.

Socialism doesn't just break a country, It breaks a countries people as well.

Perhaps a new party will surface, but it will take a while for people to gain trust.

You keep posting that, except Biden is your basic moderate. Klobuchar is a moderate. Weren't you a Beto fan earlier in the thread? Biden/Klobuchar are more moderate than he is.

I like it!! I am learning more about O’Roark, I like his way of thinking

O’Roark is the front runner of the pack IMO, perhaps Biden as vice, the rest of list is umm, No

Biden as Vice. So you're ok with Biden. So if he's President, it'll be ok. He won't have to learn on the job, get in there, get things going. He'll Make America Great Again, the time before Trump.

 

[.X.]

You keep posting that, except Biden is your basic moderate. Klobuchar is a moderate. Weren't you a Beto fan earlier in the thread? Biden/Klobuchar are more moderate than he is.

I think O'Rourke is very interesting, I like some of his ideals, the wife and drove to Austin and attended one of his speaking engagements, It was a good and educational experience. I think he tried to move up the Democratic food chain to fast and that is what has hurt him.

Biden will have to roll with the "New" status quo of the party if he is to stay in, although i agree Joe is moderate, I feel he will be pushed into the same situation as Pelosi, a situation i believe Pelosi did not want to have to be in. Pelosi has done a good job throughout her tenure in Washington, times have changed drastically for the party.

 

[JB Lions]

I think O'Rourke is very interesting, I like some of his ideals, the wife and drove to Austin and attended one of his speaking engagements, It was a good and educational experience. I think he tried to move up the Democratic food chain to fast and that is what has hurt him.

Biden will have to roll with the "New" status quo of the party if he is to stay in, although i agree Joe is moderate, I feel he will be pushed into the same situation as Pelosi, a situation i believe Pelosi did not want to have to be in. Pelosi has done a good job throughout her tenure in Washington, times have changed drastically for the party.

Yeah, it'll be interesting. Biden is not going to excite the left with his nomination. I like Klobuchar but she's very moderate. I know he wants a female. Warren and him are too far apart on issues. Could he go for a Stacey Abrams? First black woman VP?

Stacey Abrams Says She’s Open to Being Vice President for Any Democratic Nominee
Ms. Abrams, who announced this week that she would not run for president, told The New York Times that she would be “honored to be considered” for vice president.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/14/us/politics/stacey-abrams-vice-president.html

We shall see. I think at the end of the day, once somebody gets the official nod, the Dems should fall in line, the money should flow etc. Maybe Biden doesn't excite people and then it's a very simple, would you really rather have Trump another 4 years? I think that's a no from Dems.

So right now, it's pointing to Biden. So the question is, who would be the best VP for him?

 

[.X.]

I absolutely believe Joe Biden could come in and hit the ground running, he knows his stuff and is very good at what he does.

Would i rather i have Trump for four more years, that is a very complicated question. this has been very very hard on our country in general, the division, the hate, I would like to see Americans unite, Our country continue to prosper for the people while Washington's elected do their jobs on behalf of the citizens. I feel anything aside from a complete Democracy is a very dangerous journey for our country, one i am not willing take. the stakes are simply to high. I feel the Democratic party is leaning way in favor of a new different kind of government, perhaps a socialism of the country. with all that said, it is not Donald Trump i am voting for, it is the democracy, the constitution and the freedom of the country i am voting for.

 

[Domainace]

I think he tried to move up the Democratic food chain to fast and that is what has hurt him.

I think he saw this as striking while the iron was hot. This is a pivotal moment in US politics, and people who would be lucky to get a visitor's pass to the White House in the past now have a shot at being president - no qualifications needed. Anybody but the status quo, though they will hang in and have a shot between the radicals. Look at Greece, Venezuela, etc. for the roadmap.

The day will come that Enlytend will be fondly remembering that moderate President Trump.

 

[mr-x]

Getting booed at the World Series, now getting booed at MMA:

Not true. Overwhelmingly positive response.
https://twitter.com/TaraLaRosa/status/1190837453696856065

Also:

VIDEO: Donald Trump Gets Booed at Madison Square Garden During Entrance to UFC 244

https://www.12up.com/posts/video-do...arden-during-entrance-to-ufc-244-01drqfy2bp8v

this reality triggers Jr.

@DonaldJTrumpJr
Despite the bullsh*t from blue checkmark Twitter, when we walked into the arena it was overwhelmingly positive.
@danawhite
said it was the most electrifying entrance he seen in 25 years of doing this.
@ufc

Who are you going to believe, the media or your lying eyes.

@JoshuaPotash
· 4h
Inside Madison Square Garden right now Trump is getting booed. And outside the crowd is chanting: “LOCK HIM UP!”
https://twitter.com/JoshuaPotash/status/1190823061999804416

This is a guy is definitely a UFC fan, not a resistance beta.

I guess he'll spend the rest of his years holed up at Mar A Lago if he wants to escape that kind of thing.

Not really.


More cheers than boos greet President Trump at UFC 244
https://nypost.com/2019/11/02/more-cheers-than-boos-greet-president-trump-at-ufc-244-at-msg/