Sick of dumb, insulting sellers...

[sashas]

I recently made an offer on a LLL.com with a X and a Z. Two bad letters and one premium letter.
I made an initial offer of $4000. A very fair initial offer for such a name. I was willing to go up to $6.5k, which is the market price.

The reply was: "Why should I sell it to you when I can get 50k+ for it at an auction?"

I sent him a list of some recent sales with similar letters.

His reply: "F*ck you lowballer".


Don't such owners just blow your fuse off?

 

[Roo78]

Hey sashas,
Don't let it ruin your day...it's all about Karma. You'll find a better deal than that one anyway. Everything happens for a reason. Don't hassle it!!

 

[namenut]

Hey sashas,
Don't let it ruin your day...it's all about Karma. You'll find a better deal than that one anyway. Everything happens for a reason. Don't hassle it!!

Welcome to NPs Roo ....

good advice and an even better outlook. You just earned a "good day" tomorrow.

namenut

 

[italiandragon]

I recently made an offer on a LLL.com with a X and a Z. Two bad letters and one premium letter.
I made an initial offer of $4000. A very fair initial offer for such a name. I was willing to go up to $6.5k, which is the market price.

The reply was: "Why should I sell it to you when I can get 50k+ for it at an auction?"

I sent him a list of some recent sales with similar letters.

His reply: "F*ck you lowballer".


Don't such owners just blow your fuse off?

don`t get upset, there are bad people and good people, when yuo meet bad people, just forget about them

 

[RJ]

If he can get $50k for his poor quality LLL.com's, he should snap at the opportunity to buy more up at 15-25k each. Maybe you could turn him into a possible buyer. Just kidding, of course, I doubt he really believes that. It just sounds like he's someone who enjoys being rude for the sake of it.

IMHO, far too many people toss out common courtesy and politeness when sending and responding to inquiries. Buyers can be just as guilty of this as sellers. Best to just ignore and move on.

RJ

 

[sashas]

I know. I've generally had very good experience with sellers. Even when sellers quote outrageous prices (175k for a NNN.net!), they're at least polite while doing so.

Ah what the hell...just another day in the life of a domainer.

 

[Scott.LV]

This problem applies to a lot of markets. I used to own a highly modified RX-7, and when custom parts (rare, I'll admit) would come up for sale, sellers would want outrageous prices for them.

I would make a more than fair offer for them (sometimes more than retail due to scarcity) and they would respond with some rude BS response. Don't let it bother you. When they get the same response from every potential buyer, they'll figure out that they're the idiots.

-Scott

 

[filter]

I know. I've generally had very good experience with sellers. Even when sellers quote outrageous prices (175k for a NNN.net!), they're at least polite while doing so.

Ah what the hell...just another day in the life of a domainer.

Rude traders (buyers as well as sellers) may be doing you a favor when they make their contempt for your point of view clear right off the bat - so you don't have to waste any more time dealing with them, and can move on that much faster. There are plenty of good people to do business with, and usually more than a few good opportunities to choose from at any given moment in this market.

I think many if not most of us here are often "switch hitters" - buyers one month, sellers the next. So respect given to the idea of finding a fair price on both sides of the trade should pay dividends in terms of better bottom line in the long run - as well as fostering more "in the moment" peace of mind and basic sense of decency as you go about your business in a profitable way.

(Google "game theory ethics" for some interesting "abstract view from a height" perspective on fair play.)

And yeah, some people have a knack for pushing others buttons in a bad way - it's their problem, not yours, and ultimately often (but unfortunately not always) a severe handicap for them in the long run ... so, getting irked is a reasonable reaction, venting in a board post or blog entry is a healthy response - just remember to keep the perspective that you may have some choice in how much of the bad vibe you take away from the experience - you can laugh or you can cry ...

Usually better to laugh it off though! Say (to yourself even) "thanks, you just made my day - this was more entertaining than watching TV - who is your agent? You're perfect as a Major Twit, I'm going to write a role into my next script just for you!"

:sold:

 

[Michelle]

I recently made an offer on a LLL.com with a X and a Z. Two bad letters and one premium letter.
I made an initial offer of $4000. A very fair initial offer for such a name. I was willing to go up to $6.5k, which is the market price.

The reply was: "Why should I sell it to you when I can get 50k+ for it at an auction?"

I sent him a list of some recent sales with similar letters.

His reply: "F*ck you lowballer".


Don't such owners just blow your fuse off?

That was really rude :td:

Not the kinda person to do biz with anyways so forget about it .. His/Her loss imo

 

[Giode]

I recently made an offer on a LLL.com with a X and a Z. Two bad letters and one premium letter.
I made an initial offer of $4000. A very fair initial offer for such a name. I was willing to go up to $6.5k, which is the market price.

The reply was: "Why should I sell it to you when I can get 50k+ for it at an auction?"

I sent him a list of some recent sales with similar letters.

His reply: "F*ck you lowballer".


Don't such owners just blow your fuse off?

Look on the bright side - you may have burst his bubble by showing him the recent sales list. With any luck, he felt truly disappointed after that.

Don't worry this guy. He probably looked at that "one" domain like his golden egg. I have had one or two sellers flame me like this as well. Let it be his problem!

I also blame lazy bulk whois spammers for nailing these guys time and time again with insulting $100 offers. One click of the button, and these guys email hundreds of domain owners. They pave the way for future flame outs for us.

 

[Michelle]

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I made an initial offer of $4000. His reply: "F*ck you lowballer".

Im not sure what world this person lives on but $4k is no low ball offer imo... I hope this person is a member heres, reads this and knows what a golden plonker they really are

 

[Giode]

Im not sure what world this person lives on but $4k is no low ball offer imo... I hope this person is a member heres, reads this and knows what a golden plonker they really are

Just to clarify. Nothing I said was directed at Sashas. In fact, quite the opposite! Sashas made a great offer I feel, and did nothing wrong. What I meant was, sometimes past bad experiences can make sellers "colder" they they normally would be. I must admit, I get some borderline rude and insulting inquiries. These guys don't make our lives any easier, to say the least.

 

[Michelle]

Just to clarify. Nothing I said was directed at Sashas. In fact, quite the opposite! Sashas made a great offer I feel, and did nothing wrong. What I meant was, sometimes past bad experiences can make sellers "colder" they they normally would be. I must admit, I get some borderline rude and insulting inquiries. These guys don't make our lives any easier, to say the least.

Nothing aimed at you :tu:

 

[Kate]

Unfortunately domain holders are not all domainers.
Everyone likes to think they have gold in their hands.

Fortunately not everyone is rude like that :tu:
IMO the 6.5K offer would be fair reseller price but it's true you can get more from an end user. I guess the guy just doesn't want to sell at reseller rate.

 

[anyweb]

What was the domain?

 

[gazzip]

Hey sashas,
Don't let it ruin your day...it's all about Karma. You'll find a better deal than that one anyway. Everything happens for a reason. Don't hassle it!!

Pretty rude eh, that was a very good starting offer !

Although if I owned a LLL I would'nt be interested in selling at reseller prices to be honest.

Qrd.com sold for $5,000 on sedo today so I guess there's still a few around willing to sell cheaper than 50K


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[sashas]

I know...funny but the guy came back with a 10k counter offer, and was much more serious. But this time, I replied with the f*ck you :hehe:
I might've lost a deal, but I still won't take my dignity being trampled on.

 

[Steven]

A dictionary .com word with 0 OVT, 0 Wordtracker, 10,000 Google Search Result was on sale, and I made an offer of mid $xxx (passed the minimum offer), and I didn't even get a reply (inc. no counter offer) back.
Sometimes, I do get a rude response after making an offer, but I try not to take it personally.
I hope that we can all treat each other with respect and courtesy, but there are always those who do not feel like doing so.

 

[Mark]

If someone owns something - They can ask whatever price they wish for it ...

The first response wasn't rude - But once they've hinted to you that you aren't even in the Ballpark price range, You persisted by sending them Wholesale prices as "proof" ? Most people holding these domains at this point Really aren't interested in selling them at Wholesale prices any longer. And when you consider they recieve Dozens/Hundreds/Thousands of offers just like this (Not to mention most of it is unsolicited email they consider spam instead of a Good old Phone Call) - Yes , They are human and get pissed off a bit.

Although if I owned a LLL I would'nt be interested in selling at reseller prices to be honest.

:bingo:

By the way , IMO - There are NO more "bad" letters in LLL.com's. That factor went out the window a few years back really. There may be "Great" letters - But I wouldn't consider any of them bad :p

 

[lzy]

I know...funny but the guy came back with a 10k counter offer, and was much more serious. But this time, I replied with the f*ck you :hehe:
I might've lost a deal, but I still won't take my dignity being trampled on.

Good on you! :tu: