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For the benefit and edification of all who will ponder the move, I chose to make this public.

Most of you know me, as I've been here since perhaps the 2nd year of NP's existence. I've been a moderator/section leader for quite some time, too. I have over 100 positive TR's and am one of the few who have Achieved Greatness. And for good measure, I'll add that I moderate eleven forums here. I am a writer by trade (I am the editor of the in-hiatus namepros.com newsletter) but, as a favor to Rachel James (aka NPQueen), I joined the NP team. Those were such great days. NP was doing outstanding & people came here daily to learn the tricks of the trade and sell a domain or two. I still converse with her and her husband, Ron (aka RJ) at times. The staff here was tremendous. Michelle and Wendy were powerhouses. RJ kept things in order. And, let’s face it, everyone loved seeing the Queen in the chatroom. Things were great.

But just like every shattered dream, nothing ever lasts forever.

Things started falling apart here no long ago. All told, Ron sold NP, his baby, to someone who was going to make NP better. Yeah, traffic was decreasing a bit, among other things, and the most practical way to keep NP alive was to sell it to an entity that could stop the bleeding. I do not blame RJ for selling. He did what was best for the site. And I will not criticize Matt, the buyer of NP. Yet I do find myself questioning & here I am today, typing this out as a way to not answer these questions but to cut loose the burden of having to question them in the first place.

We all have our hopes and dreams. One of my hopes was that Matt would pump life into this site, reinvigorating NP from the inside-out. Sadly, all that had been achieved was the descent and deterioration of all that Ron had made. The worst part? We were warned but ignored it completely.

Well, nearly everyone did, anyway. I was the lone exception. Who was the prophet who first brought the issue to light? Wendy.

Ya see, as communities such as NP grow ever so big, the prospect of keeping order is a requirement. Without order, you’ll have anarchy (or something as pointlessly worthless as GFY). NP was kind of the anti-GFY: This is a moderated community and the mods here actually TRY to help ppl. But yes, moderation is needed for the grand scheme of things to float. That cannot be debated. A person is smart; people are retarded, panicky, and self-destructive. People cannot self-moderate. That’s where mods (or police, in the physical world) come in. And yes, all forms of law enforcement are hated. The issue at hand here is not the prospect of moderation.

It’s over-moderation.

Let me ask a question: What constitutes as over-moderation? Surely, penalizing people for every little thing is bad. Sometimes, a reminder to the offender that he/she was in the wrong can solve the problem. Crucifying EVEYONE isn’t the way to go. By doing so, you would, in essence, be over-modding.

But is ALL moderating “over-modding”? I once had this to say about the departed Wendy:

“I do have to side with Wendy. She and I have spoken throughout the years & I see her points. She was a good moderator/authority figure. But that draws the ire of the public. No one likes breaking a rule & being punished for it. All of us mods go through with it: If we ignore something bad, the bad guy in the situation would get away with it & wouldn't have anything bad to say. BUT the moment he's caught with his hand in the cookie jar, there'll be a long rant by the bad guy, chastising the mod for what ultimately boils down to the bad guy getting an infraction. We are 'police' here @ NP. And when ppl do bad, they'll always have criticisms. Wendy's done a lot over the years, more than most of us had. And that being true, she's had the most criticism of us all.

I'm not saying Wendy being removed was a good or bad thing. I'm only saying here that Wendy was given a bad rep from users who've been disciplined by her & it snowballed into her image being shot up pretty badly. We've all gone through it. We've all made at least 1 enemy doing our job. Wendy, sadly, made a lotta enemies. It wasn't from the quality of her work. It was the fact that she DID her work and did it well. The good guys like her. The bad guys hate her.”

Yes, poor mis_chiff stepped away. Upon her departure, I considered doing the same, as all she spoke of really made sense. I tried, instead, to ignore matters & rather than leaving, I took up a few more forums, to help out NP. I tried to dismiss the regression, pretending that everything was going to work out in the end. A few weeks later and things are now even worse. Not only is Wendy gone but a lot of the class and style had left with her. Yes, the bad guys won: She was driven out by the naysayers and spammers and rule-breakers. Wendy is gone. And today, on May 20, 2012, my name shall be added along with hers.

Effective immediately, I resign from all staff positions here at namepros.com.

Ironically, Eric told me that management believed that I was “under stress” & removed me from several forums, to collect myself. He sent me this message awhile after I made this decision to step down from everything. It isn’t stress that had gotten to me: It’s that people suddenly have gotten otherwise blind or oblivious to the rules. Again, I am an exception. Sure, I’m not perfect. Who is? We all make mistakes. But since Matt took over, NP had only gotten worse--and I’m afraid it’ll never return to its glory. Hell, I’m thinking NP might fall completely at this rate. And this destruction is from mismanagement, not mods.

Nowadays, people can cuss a storm, be impolite, and provoke argument & we mods are powerless to stop it. Today alone, I had an issue. There was a post made that contained very belligerent language & provoked a lotta bad thoughts. Had RJ been here, that post would have stayed deleted. See, Eric saw the post & refused to delete it, opting to edit a few small things. I received a complaint & saw no reason to keep such a poor post, thus I deleted it. Eric then UN-DELETED it, telling me a load of rigmarole about free speech and whatnot. (He tried to justify things by telling me I called the poster retarded, thus what comes around, goes around; I in no way called the poster retarded but merely stated that he was acting retarded) IT BROKE A LONGSTANDING NP RULE! It was impolite, offensive, belligerent, and was posted in the hopes of causing turmoil. From the NP rules:

“Posts critical of NamePros policies, staff or moderation activity (such as post edits or deletions) will likely be removed, as well as posts attempting to stir unwelcome drama (such as "I'm Leaving" type posts). If you have problems with a moderator or feel you have not been treated fairly, please contact a NamePros Administrator through the private forum we have provided.”

This exact thread might be considered as “critical” though it is merely for constructive thought (there is much worse to be read in the “Suggestions” thread). Eric, I ask that you not delete this thread or edit it in any way. If others have opinions, they should voice them, as that is the intention of this thread, other than my announcement. It may help management prevent the bleeding further.

But yes, the post I removed was against ToS & I removed it. It was then re-added by a staff member who wanted to appease users. I’ve discussed it above and I’ll say it like this: We should NOT bend to the will of rule-breakers simply to keep them happy. I don’t. But many others here do. A month back, I deleted a thread with good reason & was beseeched to re-add it simply because the poster whined and cried about it & wanted it returned. I only re-added it to prevent further bad-taste in everyone’s mouth. I suppose I contradicted myself: I did succumb before. But I will not again, ever.

I’m done. I am tired of other people telling me how to do my job. And I did my job pretty damn well. But others wanted me to regress, to make the bad guys happy. No. Forget it. During the first few months I’ve been a mod, there was an incident where a remorse-seller gave me grief over a $600 deal. He had 100% no right to the name (he refused a refund a billion times) but I caved--to protect the sanctity of NP’s image. That was when Ron and Rachel were here. I liked them. I still do. And I respect the hell outta them. They did all they could to make NP a better community. I became a mod out of respect and loyalty to them. This new management is tearing at the gears that have kept NP running all these years. In April, NP lost a team leader. In May, NP had lost a section leader. I’m afraid to wonder what’ll come up missing next month.

Nevermore shall I moderate at this forum. Wendy was right. Namepros.com is going soft & will more than likely become a haven for chaos here in the near future. I’ll probably still be here, in one fashion or another, to watch it crumble down. When it does, I’ll sleep better at night knowing that there is no blood on my hands. This wasn’t my doing. I wish NP the very best, truly. I still love this site. But if I cannot do my job the way it’s supposed to be done, then I simply won’t do it, at all.
 
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I haven't been zapped in a long time for doing nothing wrong. So I imagine, others aren't either. New members aren't getting flagged as a spammer for following the rules. If you look at the examples I gave above, and that was just for me. Imagine all the other members that got nonsense zaps as well. Why do you think there were so many complaints?

Not sure where you got that information,
up until you spewing off in that thread for drama
there wasn't any...

And again, a mod should know the rules, I figure that was pretty basic.

ok now come on...who's not over it?
It was one post - 2 years ago - holy fuck,
you really do have nothing else to do!
 
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Again - another thread in NP off topic
Randy's resignation, let him have that
with hiws OWN opinions and comments
YOU get to have them...
- suck it up and start a thread of your very own where it should be.

Agree, this thread should have been a "Pat on the Back" thread.
 
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"and since I wasn't the one linking to a 3d adult magazine, I guess I did know the rules eh..."

It's amazing you'll continue to lie. You said that lie when I brought it up in the mod forum, that I linked to Playboy, because you deleted the thread. When I brought it up, that I still had the reply you sent me, which still had the full post intact, you story changed. Gizmodo is still not an adult magazine Wendy - http://gizmodo.com/

hmmm, I remember, or maybe I forgot - it was
so damn long ago sigh, getting bored with this
- so get the info from your "pet" to prove your weenie is bigger

pretty sure it was Adult related
http://gizmodo.com/5589322/this-low-tech-3d-porn-blog-actually-works

ANYWAYS mouth, I actually don't care anymore...I'm done, remember.

if you want to pull my hair send me a PM
stop crapping in all the threads because you have / and still carry a 2 year crybaby grudge
As said a hundred times, you should have sent me a PM or complained about it back then
maybe we would have worked it out - don't
wait all this time and cause shit
 
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Should this link be allowed here? Or not? :lol:

Eric!!!! What's the NEW NP ruling on this?

Seems a bit too adult for the Break Room.

Maybe the link should be edited to [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFTriNLwiqs"]this[/ame] instead;

:notme:

I jest, of course. :hehe:
 
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Seems a bit too adult for the Break Room.

Maybe the link should be edited to ;

:notme:

I jest, of course. :hehe:

Now that's entertainment :p

I'd buy that for a dollar :lol:
 
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I jest, of course. :hehe:

So who is this member? There's a playboy bunny in the vid.. is this some weird audition they have to go through now?
 
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So who is this member? There's a playboy bunny in the vid.. is this some weird audition they have to go through now?

This is what happens to the less aesthetically pleasing members.

[ame]http://youtu.be/W0SNYTEChCk[/ame]
 
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So who is this member? There's a playboy bunny in the vid.. is this some weird audition they have to go through now?

Well, I think the management decided the CAPTCHA codes just weren't cutting it any more...

Apparently due to a 'clerical error' you're next up. A new striped bikini is on its way to you in the post at this very moment.



:rolleyes:
 
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And PM of the day:

Fonzie said:
There's a 99.9% chance that was where you lived.

There's an equal certainty that if someone asked you to show them $500 cash, you wouldn't be able to do it.

Personally, I think someone like you is a *perfect* moderator for Namepros, though, since namepros is now essentially made up of people like you.

Consider this: you can give me a billion infraction points, ban my account or whatever. It doesn't change the fact that you're the type of trailer-trash most people pray to god their kids don't grow up to become.

Somewhere, tonight, there's an Indian living in a mud hut or a Mexican swimming across the Rio Grand who will go on to live a life considerably better than anything you will ever know, you cross-eyed gimp.

I'm tempted to copy and paste the joke thread that was posted about your pathetic ass on a certain private domain forum (where that picture originated), but I won't.

Loser.
 
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I know some members think mods are the ones who dish these things but really, mods receive a lot of them, too. This isn't even the worst I've received in my moderating career.

Damn, that dude has problems.
 
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Taking shots at mods becomes a way of life for some members.

A few years back when i was modding the chat room, It got so bad that RJ had to give me the administrative log in so i could actually ban people.

I never gave a warning to any one unless they were breaking rules, And i was very lenient. We had fun in there every night.

There were people that just didn't give a damn about respecting others. So i banned em, that after several warnings.

RJ always had my back!

If you people plan on having a productive domain name forum here, Then work with the mods here. Not against em.

---------- Post added at 01:55 AM ---------- Previous post was at 01:41 AM ----------

And PM of the day:

That user should BANNED , For life. Ban that MFer!
 
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That user should BANNED , For life. Ban that MFer!

I am pretty sure he was banned once before and apparently he didn't learn his lesson.
 
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Two revelations from this thread for me.

1. JBLions is worth having on ignore for a multitude of reasons, not the least being that he has no concept of discussing/debating without resorting to straw man, or ad homenin arguments

2. Wendy knows how to type the word FUCK!!!!

Love ya Wendy... you go girl. :)

Randy... you are a dude and you can always catch me on FB
 
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"1. JBLions is worth having on ignore for a multitude of reasons, not the least being that he has no concept of discussing/debating without resorting to straw man, or ad homenin arguments"

You should have said why. That has to do with firefly getting upset when he said Ron Paul still had a chance of becoming President, not too long ago and me pointing out the reality of how ridiculous that was. So if you're a person that thinks Ron Paul still has a shot and that out of touch with current events, yes, please put me on ignore lol. Ron Paul 2016.
 
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Just a note:

This is officially the longest break room thread in 2012 ... how's that for an enduring legacy, Randy? ;)

RJ always had my back!

If you people plan on having a productive domain name forum here, Then work with the mods here. Not against em.

This is what I was referring too (much) earlier in the thread when I said an active owner really does empower the users of a forum. RJ was always a top bloke and everyone respected him enough to know that when you crossed a line, you'd be shown the door and you dealt with it until you could grow up.

There are lots of figures on this forum that I respect, that have power, but it's not really the same as the owner standing up to resolve an ongoing dispute and putting someone in their place. :gl:
 
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...just stumbled on this thread and I gotta say I was surprised by the announcement by randy...I do wish for him nothing but the best in his continuing journey.

That said, although I disagreed with him on his "us vs them" philosophy regarding members and moderators(I felt that we are basically the same, he disagreed. I could live with that.), I could not agree with him more about the need for solid yet fair moderating.

Double A's handling of the posts by Fonzie, for example, was in my mind necessary. The fonz has basically debased every thread that he has so far entered and if he has said anything to positively contribute to the growth of this forum, I have yet to see it. My guess, and I may be wrong, is that he may know Matt in some capacity and that is why he is given a free pass, not unlike the Snoop of yore when he would invade the .tv forum for little more than mayhem and vandalism.

So AA is going to be missed by me as Wendy is, but I also agree that members could also help by self-moderating, as one member did for me by pm. His message allowed me to see that replying by entering a quote that was laden with an obscenity was just as bad as the post I was replying to, so I did thank him for pointing it out and deleted it.

I did notice that the poster of the invective also edited his post later.

Yeah, I'm rambling, but I just want to let AA, Wendy and whoever know it's not "us vs them" or at least it doesn't have to be.

Always enjoyed the Archangel's input and expect him to continue on a higher plane to what his desires truly are...
 
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Thanks for everything you have GIVEN here, Randy! I wish you all the best, and am sure it was a tough decision to make. You deserve a big thanks for the difficult role you have played here, the flack you have taken, your resilience and, in the end, your ability to side with your conscience and walk away rather than continuing to play a role that you are in disagreement with. That is not intended to mean that I "agree" with your reasoning, or perspective on being a "mod/section" leader in comparison to being a "member", but I can certainly respect your view and feelings on it. I have also never been a section leader/admin, so have less of a taste for how nasty it can get with upset/argumentative/negative/antagonistic/downright insulting members than you do by a long shot.

In any event, I am grateful for the time and energy you have devoted in your own way to making NP a better place, as a "member" and as "staff", and sure hope that you stay around!

All the best, SP
 
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hate to see this ,the way it has been, have to agree a few, taking a cue on the prognosis that awaits NP,rather leave out the riffraff sulking for nice W, you did great bud,while you were 'ere as the Law,
For the benefit and edification of all who will ponder the move, I chose to make this public.

Most of you know me, as I've been here since perhaps the 2nd year of NP's existence. I've been a moderator/section leader for quite some time, too. I have over 100 positive TR's and am one of the few who have Achieved Greatness. And for good measure, I'll add that I moderate eleven forums here. I am a writer by trade (I am the editor of the in-hiatus namepros.com newsletter) but, as a favor to Rachel James (aka NPQueen), I joined the NP team. Those were such great days. NP was doing outstanding & people came here daily to learn the tricks of the trade and sell a domain or two. I still converse with her and her husband, Ron (aka RJ) at times. The staff here was tremendous. Michelle and Wendy were powerhouses. RJ kept things in order. And, let’s face it, everyone loved seeing the Queen in the chatroom. Things were great.

But just like every shattered dream, nothing ever lasts forever.

Things started falling apart here no long ago. All told, Ron sold NP, his baby, to someone who was going to make NP better. Yeah, traffic was decreasing a bit, among other things, and the most practical way to keep NP alive was to sell it to an entity that could stop the bleeding. I do not blame RJ for selling. He did what was best for the site. And I will not criticize Matt, the buyer of NP. Yet I do find myself questioning & here I am today, typing this out as a way to not answer these questions but to cut loose the burden of having to question them in the first place.

We all have our hopes and dreams. One of my hopes was that Matt would pump life into this site, reinvigorating NP from the inside-out. Sadly, all that had been achieved was the descent and deterioration of all that Ron had made. The worst part? We were warned but ignored it completely.

Well, nearly everyone did, anyway. I was the lone exception. Who was the prophet who first brought the issue to light? Wendy.

Ya see, as communities such as NP grow ever so big, the prospect of keeping order is a requirement. Without order, you’ll have anarchy (or something as pointlessly worthless as GFY). NP was kind of the anti-GFY: This is a moderated community and the mods here actually TRY to help ppl. But yes, moderation is needed for the grand scheme of things to float. That cannot be debated. A person is smart; people are retarded, panicky, and self-destructive. People cannot self-moderate. That’s where mods (or police, in the physical world) come in. And yes, all forms of law enforcement are hated. The issue at hand here is not the prospect of moderation.

It’s over-moderation.

Let me ask a question: What constitutes as over-moderation? Surely, penalizing people for every little thing is bad. Sometimes, a reminder to the offender that he/she was in the wrong can solve the problem. Crucifying EVEYONE isn’t the way to go. By doing so, you would, in essence, be over-modding.

But is ALL moderating “over-modding”? I once had this to say about the departed Wendy:

“I do have to side with Wendy. She and I have spoken throughout the years & I see her points. She was a good moderator/authority figure. But that draws the ire of the public. No one likes breaking a rule & being punished for it. All of us mods go through with it: If we ignore something bad, the bad guy in the situation would get away with it & wouldn't have anything bad to say. BUT the moment he's caught with his hand in the cookie jar, there'll be a long rant by the bad guy, chastising the mod for what ultimately boils down to the bad guy getting an infraction. We are 'police' here @ NP. And when ppl do bad, they'll always have criticisms. Wendy's done a lot over the years, more than most of us had. And that being true, she's had the most criticism of us all.

I'm not saying Wendy being removed was a good or bad thing. I'm only saying here that Wendy was given a bad rep from users who've been disciplined by her & it snowballed into her image being shot up pretty badly. We've all gone through it. We've all made at least 1 enemy doing our job. Wendy, sadly, made a lotta enemies. It wasn't from the quality of her work. It was the fact that she DID her work and did it well. The good guys like her. The bad guys hate her.”

Yes, poor mis_chiff stepped away. Upon her departure, I considered doing the same, as all she spoke of really made sense. I tried, instead, to ignore matters & rather than leaving, I took up a few more forums, to help out NP. I tried to dismiss the regression, pretending that everything was going to work out in the end. A few weeks later and things are now even worse. Not only is Wendy gone but a lot of the class and style had left with her. Yes, the bad guys won: She was driven out by the naysayers and spammers and rule-breakers. Wendy is gone. And today, on May 20, 2012, my name shall be added along with hers.

Effective immediately, I resign from all staff positions here at namepros.com.

Ironically, Eric told me that management believed that I was “under stress” & removed me from several forums, to collect myself. He sent me this message awhile after I made this decision to step down from everything. It isn’t stress that had gotten to me: It’s that people suddenly have gotten otherwise blind or oblivious to the rules. Again, I am an exception. Sure, I’m not perfect. Who is? We all make mistakes. But since Matt took over, NP had only gotten worse--and I’m afraid it’ll never return to its glory. Hell, I’m thinking NP might fall completely at this rate. And this destruction is from mismanagement, not mods.

Nowadays, people can cuss a storm, be impolite, and provoke argument & we mods are powerless to stop it. Today alone, I had an issue. There was a post made that contained very belligerent language & provoked a lotta bad thoughts. Had RJ been here, that post would have stayed deleted. See, Eric saw the post & refused to delete it, opting to edit a few small things. I received a complaint & saw no reason to keep such a poor post, thus I deleted it. Eric then UN-DELETED it, telling me a load of rigmarole about free speech and whatnot. (He tried to justify things by telling me I called the poster retarded, thus what comes around, goes around; I in no way called the poster retarded but merely stated that he was acting retarded) IT BROKE A LONGSTANDING NP RULE! It was impolite, offensive, belligerent, and was posted in the hopes of causing turmoil. From the NP rules:

“Posts critical of NamePros policies, staff or moderation activity (such as post edits or deletions) will likely be removed, as well as posts attempting to stir unwelcome drama (such as "I'm Leaving" type posts). If you have problems with a moderator or feel you have not been treated fairly, please contact a NamePros Administrator through the private forum we have provided.”

This exact thread might be considered as “critical” though it is merely for constructive thought (there is much worse to be read in the “Suggestions” thread). Eric, I ask that you not delete this thread or edit it in any way. If others have opinions, they should voice them, as that is the intention of this thread, other than my announcement. It may help management prevent the bleeding further.

But yes, the post I removed was against ToS & I removed it. It was then re-added by a staff member who wanted to appease users. I’ve discussed it above and I’ll say it like this: We should NOT bend to the will of rule-breakers simply to keep them happy. I don’t. But many others here do. A month back, I deleted a thread with good reason & was beseeched to re-add it simply because the poster whined and cried about it & wanted it returned. I only re-added it to prevent further bad-taste in everyone’s mouth. I suppose I contradicted myself: I did succumb before. But I will not again, ever.

I’m done. I am tired of other people telling me how to do my job. And I did my job pretty damn well. But others wanted me to regress, to make the bad guys happy. No. Forget it. During the first few months I’ve been a mod, there was an incident where a remorse-seller gave me grief over a $600 deal. He had 100% no right to the name (he refused a refund a billion times) but I caved--to protect the sanctity of NP’s image. That was when Ron and Rachel were here. I liked them. I still do. And I respect the hell outta them. They did all they could to make NP a better community. I became a mod out of respect and loyalty to them. This new management is tearing at the gears that have kept NP running all these years. In April, NP lost a team leader. In May, NP had lost a section leader. I’m afraid to wonder what’ll come up missing next month.

Nevermore shall I moderate at this forum. Wendy was right. Namepros.com is going soft & will more than likely become a haven for chaos here in the near future. I’ll probably still be here, in one fashion or another, to watch it crumble down. When it does, I’ll sleep better at night knowing that there is no blood on my hands. This wasn’t my doing. I wish NP the very best, truly. I still love this site. But if I cannot do my job the way it’s supposed to be done, then I simply won’t do it, at all.
 
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