status-resolved namepros has been taken over ..

[frank-germany]

 

[frank-germany]

I'd much rather have an in-depth discussion with someone I disagree with, but who has taken the time to research, understand and respect both sides of the debate, rather than just hang out with people who all agree on the same thing but don't explore or dig deeper into a topic.

100% agreed

but if the research was done
with the main focus on
how to have as many views/replies

the main purpose of advertising
becomes obvious

and a discussion mutates into an unpaid promotion

 

[frank-germany]

Welcome Frank.

i’ve been expecting you.

This is what happens when people feel their voices are heard. Everyday, those “other guys” (suspect ur bosses) lose me, more and more

Samer

no idea what you talk about, Samer

 

[Rob Monster]

100% agreed

but if the research was done
with the main focus on
how to have as many views/replies

the main purpose of advertising
becomes obvious

and a discussion mutates into an unpaid promotion

Frank - I disagree.

This is not promotional:

https://www.namepros.com/threads/turning-lemons-into-lemonade.1161776

That is just life advice. People tried to move it into the Promotional category, but instead it ended in the break room. I know it helped a bunch of people.

And this one has too:

https://www.namepros.com/threads/personal-productivity-megathread.1155735/

It would be awesome if more people engaged and shared their knowledge, wisdom and professional techniques. We could make the pie bigger. And that would be very cool.

People can provide for themselves, provide for their families, provide for their community, and have the opportunity to contemplate the meaning of life. Why does this terrify you so much?

 

[Bravo Mod Team]

Hello,

Fortunately, we are aware of the promotional issue, and we have been working on it. We do not treat Rob any differently than other enthusiastic members who have come to NamePros over the years and created large influxes of content that sometimes violates the rules.

We are in communication with Rob about this and working with him (just like we do all other members that have done this in the past, including you Frank) to help him learn the rules and post within the expectations of the community. He is making strides to improve. However, please use the Report link on any posts that you see where a rule has been violated, and we will take the appropriate actions. Your reports will help contribute to his learning of what is considered acceptable use at NamePros.

We appreciate your help.

 

[Rob Monster]

Hello,

Fortunately, we are aware of the promotional issue, and we have been working on it. We do not treat Rob any differently than other enthusiastic members who have come to NamePros over the years and created large influxes of content that sometimes violates the rules.

We are in communication with Rob about this and working with him (just like we do all other members that have done this in the past, including you Frank) to help him learn the rules and post within the expectations of the community. He is making strides to improve. However, please use the Report link on any posts that you see where a rule has been violated, and we will take the appropriate actions. Your reports will help contribute to his learning of what is considered acceptable use at NamePros.

We appreciate your help.

Thanks. It is true.

The software does have some throttling features in place which seem to work like this one:

However, I think the real solution is for more folks to do this:

1. Post useful content. Teach what you know. Share what you discover. Raise the collective intelligence of the community by giving without any expectation of immediate return.

2. Run polls for name selection. These are popular and let naming experts strut their stuff, mention their relevant inventory, while letting others learn techniques for naming. @Ategy.com is prolific among others.

3. Follow people who engage with you. They often follow back. You then get notified about each other's posts. A lot of folks follow me but I followed them back.


And when a lot of people do that, we get explosive traffic growth and the community becomes more vibrant:

And that is a good thing for the industry, so keep that in mind. I have shared what works. Copy it, don't piss on it.

 

[frank-germany]

We are in communication with Rob about this and working with him (just like we do all other members that have done this in the past, including you Frank) to help him learn the rules and post within the expectations of the community.

I may have been in the wrong department with my posts..
and I may have been rude or un-appropriate with one or two posts

and I apologize
if that has hurt anybody's feelings

but I'm not spitting threads out

in order to cover
the front page of the forum

and continue to do so
over and over
in order to get domainers to move into my service

 

[dirk]

It's not just Rob

 

[equity78]

It's not just Rob

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A few things, that's where blog posts go in domain industry news, number 2 I got nothing to sell you, 3 the mods can close my account or delete posts anytime they like, I could care less.

And for today popular I see

 

[Rob Monster]

A few things, that's where blog posts go in domain industry news, number 2 I got nothing to sell you, 3 the mods can close my account or delete posts anytime they like, I could care less.

And for today popular I see

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Raymond - you have nothing to worry about. It is a slow news day for new thread and it is possible to rank your thread with just a few people engaging. People need to stop complaining, and start thanking you for not turning NP into a:

Keep up the good work, and thanks for keeping your finger on the news pulse.

 

[dirk]

A few things, that's where blog posts go in domain industry news, number 2 I got nothing to sell you, 3 the mods can close my account or delete posts anytime they like, I could care less.

And for today popular I see

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True. It wasn't meant in a negative way! Just to show there are others with a lot of topics.

Personally I couldn't care less how many topics people start or get involved in. As long as they contain valuable content like yours and Rob's (albeit different in nature) I can only appreciate that!

 

[frank-germany]

information
is only valuable
when it's good

when it's obviously a sales pitch
the greatness is always questionable
( like being bullish on orgs )

I'm bullish on green gum frogs
( no I'm not )

but even if..
I'm not selling green gum frogs to you
in case you are now bullish, too.
(for a steep discount of course)

to find the blog posts you have to search for them


in order to find the sales pitches
...
you can't avoid them
they'll find you

 

[dirk]

information
is only valuable
when it's good

when it's obviously a sales pitch
the greatness is always questionable
( like being bullish on orgs )

I'm bullish on green gum frogs
( no I'm not )

but even if..
I'm not selling green gum frogs to you
in case you are now bullish, too.
(for a steep discount of course)

to find the blog posts you have to search for them


in order to find the sales pitches
...
you can't avoid them
they'll find you

You can avoid it by ignoring him?

Look, I get what you're saying and agree sometimes it's a bit much. But what harm comes from that which bothers you?

NP seems to think he's playing by the rules. I'd rather have a registrar actually participating and sneak in some self promotion along the way than only encounter registrars when they run their latest promo.

Just my opinion. I respect you for speaking your mind. It's the critical minds that keep a forum healthy.

 

[Lox]

The worst sales pitch I've ever seen @ NP was from the .Best Registry ... ruthless ... and newbies ... who think air is money, monkey is fruit ... they just stay in the line ... and registering and registering ... imo

 

[frank-germany]

You can avoid it by ignoring him?

Look, I get what you're saying and agree sometimes it's a bit much. But what harm comes from that which bothers you?

NP seems to think he's playing by the rules. I'd rather have a registrar actually participating and sneak in some self promotion along the way than only encounter registrars when they run their latest promo.

Just my opinion. I respect you for speaking your mind. It's the critical minds that keep a forum healthy.

indeed I can't avoid
by ignoring him

the screenshots at the OP
were taken while ignoring

 

[frank-germany]

The worst sales pitch I've ever seen @ NP was from the .Best Registry ... ruthless ... and newbies ... who think air is money, monkey is fruit ... they just stay in the line ... and registering and registering ... imo

100% agreed

 

[Ategy]

These repeated accusations are getting really annoying. @frank-germany .. you're more than entitled to your opinion .. but you yourself flood every single post @Rob Monster starts taking them all off-topic.

I've said it many times .. as long as the prime focus in on the topic and discussion, then I don't even mind people mentioning their domain related company. Particularly WHEN IT BRINGS A UNIQUE PERSPECTIVE TO A TOPIC specifically because it's from a registrar point of view.

On top of that Frank .. while I do appreciate some of your points sometimes, the way you post as well often is incomprehensible. I'm not really sure you're in the best place to be complaining about others.

I've mentioned it a couple of times when you post 4-5 posts in a row, each with little focus and incomplete sentences strung out over multiple lines.

But I've never once complained to others, nor to NamePros.

This is a public forum .. we aren't always going to agree with what others say nor how they say it. If someone is flagrantly breaking the rules or being abusive to others, then that's one thing .. but that isn't the case here.

By your logic, everybody who wholesales to other domainers should not be allowed to say anything positive about domains!?

Anyhow .. complain about Rob and Bob and anyone else as much as you want .. but I do ask that from this point forward you keep your continuous unconstructive and off-topic complaints here in the comments and feedback forum

If you feel strongly against something you're allowed to speak up about it .. but stop taking every single post Rob starts off-topic .. for the last few months you're actually breaking more rules than he is!

 

[frank-germany]

But what harm comes from that which bothers you?

most "information" is not backed by data
"bullish on .org"
leads newbies to register .orgs w/o thinking.
who gains?

"shoot to the moon"
not backed by data
leads to loss of "earthy" sales

read @Michael post

"I can help you sell"
leads to:
let's register

harm?
no harm I can see

 

[frank-germany]

These repeated accusations are getting really annoying. @frank-germany .. you're more than entitled to your opinion .. but you yourself flood every single post @Rob Monster starts taking them all off-topic.

I've said it many times .. as long as the prime focus in on the topic and discussion, then I don't even mind people mentioning their domain related company. Particularly WHEN IT BRINGS A UNIQUE PERSPECTIVE TO A TOPIC specifically because it's from a registrar point of view.

On top of that Frank .. while I do appreciate some of your points sometimes, the way you post as well often is incomprehensible. I'm not really sure you're in the best place to be complaining about others.

I've mentioned it a couple of times when you post 4-5 posts in a row, each with little focus and incomplete sentences strung out over multiple lines.

But I've never once complained to others, nor to NamePros.

This is a public forum .. we aren't always going to agree with what others say nor how they say it. If someone is flagrantly breaking the rules or being abusive to others, then that's one thing .. but that isn't the case here.

By your logic, everybody who wholesales to other domainers should not be allowed to say anything positive about domains!?

Anyhow .. complain about Rob and Bob and anyone else as much as you want .. but I do ask that from this point forward you keep your continuous unconstructive and off-topic complaints here in the comments and feedback forum

If you feel strongly against something you're allowed to speak up about it .. but stop taking every single post Rob starts off-topic .. for the last few months you're actually breaking more rules than he is!

you are welcome @Ategy.com

but this is my thread

 

[Blitzpotz]

What I don´t understand: What is the problem?

There is a Section "Popular this month". It is ranked by replies or by Likes, I even don´t know. Whatever, it is ranked by the acceptance and participation of all Namepros members. And the ranking cannot be manipulated by the thread OP to rise I assume.

The member participation may be approving or disapproving. Both kinds of posts account for an uprise of threads in the ranking section. Additionally, threads like this one which claim to be critical do only one thing: they guarantee more users´ interest in the criticized item and secure those top rankings because more users are attracted to look into them and participate.

So let´s just suppose that allegations against Rob are relevant and let´s suppose that Rob is even more clever than we think he would have engaged Frank to stage a continuing show of enmity. Schizo Bullshit? Of course, what else. But this fantastic thought just develops the current situation.

If I imagine this forum without the contributions of Rob, Frank, Raymond and Bob, just for example, this forum would be no more than a marketplace. An attractive marketplace for sure, but nothing else. So why not let it be.

 

[frank-germany]

What I don´t understand: What is the problem?

There is a Section "Popular this month". It is ranked by replies or by Likes, I even don´t know. Whatever, it is ranked by the acceptance and participation of all Namepros members. And the ranking cannot be manipulated by the thread OP to rise I assume.

The member participation may be approving or disapproving. Both kinds of posts account for an uprise of threads in the ranking section. Additionally, threads like this one which claim to be critical do only one thing: they guarantee more users´ interest in the criticized item and secure those top rankings because more users are attracted to look into them and participate.

So let´s just suppose that allegations against Rob are relevant and let´s suppose that Rob is even more clever than we think he would have engaged Frank to stage a continuing show of enmity. Schizo Bullsh*t? Of course, what else. But this fantastic thought just develops the current situation.

If I imagine this forum without the contributions of Rob, Frank, Raymond and Bob, just for example, this forum would be no more than a marketplace. An attractive marketplace for sure, but nothing else. So why not let it be.

when I ignore someone
I would expect not to see any of his posts

not the case
you can't avoid them

and I might miss other more interesting posts
buried somewhere