status-resolved namepros has been taken over ..

[frank-germany]

 

[equity78]

There are a lot of things to unpack in this thread,

First I will say, the mods should be on top of a post and making a reply on whether what's going on in a thread is ok, they can have a rubber stamp, copy and paste, something a long the lines of, "this post is well within the rules of namepros so no need to report it, it's allowed." So after the first report, they will not get repetitive reports taking up their time

Like look I asked a question because all hell was breaking loose off Namepros https://www.namepros.com/threads/wh...e-offthehandle-katebuckley-situation.1163067/

I asked what is the Namepros official position? @NamePros @Mod Team Echo @Mod Team Alfa @Mod Team Bravo Was the post in violation of a Namepros rule?

The next day a friend texted me and said "I see they doxxed offthehandle on Twitter, will Namepros ban those people?" My reply hell if I know, open a thread and ask. Their reply, "Fuck NO!"

Secondly your signature line should be used effectively to market if that is a goal here, so don't put your services in every post, I think Rob is trying to do both in my opinion, he is trying to give advice how he sees it, and he a lot of experience and I think he tries to help. He also wants people to use his company and their products, which makes sense, but a forum does have rules how much promotion in a discussion thread you have, and that can be tweaked.

Thirdly, People are going to go after people they don't like, over 15 years here i have had people dm me asking if I could help, "Can you post against this member? "Dislike this post please"

Here is another tidbit for the new or the old that are uninformed, there are spies here, and there are people here who don't like domainers, yes they belong to a domain forum and they don't like domainers. Some it's about morality others it's jealousy or they love being a troll. But there are members that will email a company letting them know that there is talk about a name that might violate their intellectual property. In a heated back and forth back in like 2009 I was asking someone who told me what they thought of domainers why are they on Namepros? I was like you are a domainer, "No Raymond I am not a domainer, call me anything you like but please never call me a domainer."

There is a lot of petty stuff that goes on, I modded it for 12 years. At least with Rob and Frank here it's open and transparent, I respect someone saying I don't like this. It's the mods job to say if you don't like it you might need to move on or change your viewing habits if it's allowed here.

@Ategy.com is correct that posts that get moved here or reviews do lose steam, except for those that go after Rob.

There were people who used to report incomplete whois on other members back in the day.

Look I spoke to someone on Saturday I haven't seen on here in awhile, they are like a 2006 join date, and I said why are you never on Namepros? I hate they allowed politics. I said I don't care for it either and avoid it, it's easy to avoid, (In 15 years I have spent 15 minutes in all breakroom threads) so just don't go to that section, the mods do a great job of keeping that out. Their reply was that they can see it on the sidebar and the very notion it exists made them leave namepros. Ok what can you do? And I am cool with this person, known them for years, hate political discussion more than they do but I respect it's in a section that I can avoid. Everyone is not going to get everything they want, this is not Twitter, or Facebook where, you are triggering me brah, I am offended brah, I am going to tweet about you and ruin your life brah, now your banned brah, gfy Brah.

That's not what this place is you can't bully someone into silence (the day that happens the boycott should begin), when you get to a point there are too many allowed things you don't like, you have to leave.

 

[DaveX]

I've been a member of NamePros for 4 years. I don't have to say that I have been relatively active.

Silentptnr - Member Since 2015 / 12,866 Posts / 34,081 Likes
Rob Monster - Member Since 2011 / 2,564 Posts / 8,439 Likes
Frank Germany - Member Since 2015 / 7,287 Posts / 9,068 Likes

I don't see anything in those numbers that suggest Rob is flooding this forum that already has perhaps millions of posts. I don't see anyone "Taking Over" the forum. I appreciate Rob's posts as I do the posts of others.

As for policing, I hold the position that yes, community watch is important, but let the management do the policing. It has been far too obvious that some members are put off by Rob to the detriment of otherwise insightful threads. It shouldn't be so obvious. It's just too easy to look the other way or find something else to read.

As for marketing/advertising, Rob is the owner of Epik along with other assets. That's not a bad thing. It is what it is. He just needs to follow the same rules we all do and NamePros management has made it clear that they are working with Rob to be sure he doesn't accidentally or otherwise, break any rules.

I have come to appreciate Rob's thoughtful, inclusive, open, go-getter, philosophical, rebel, personality. I also respect his accomplishments. We should all, always, try to be respectful.

Namepros is not an easy crowd. I applaud his clear success at starting good conversations. He does that in real life too.

 

[Rob Monster]

I've been a member of NamePros for 4 years. I don't have to say that I have been relatively active.

Silentptnr - Member Since 2015 / 12,866 Posts / 34,081 Likes
Rob Monster - Member Since 2011 / 2,564 Posts / 8,439 Likes
Frank Germany - Member Since 2015 / 7,287 Posts / 9,068 Likes

I don't see anything in those numbers that suggest Rob is flooding this forum that already has perhaps millions of posts. I don't see anyone "Taking Over" the forum. I appreciate Rob's posts as I do the posts of others.

As for policing, I hold the position that yes, community watch is important, but let the management do the policing. It has been far too obvious that some members are put off by Rob to the detriment of otherwise insightful threads. It shouldn't be so obvious. It's just too easy to look the other way or find something else to read.

As for marketing/advertising, Rob is the owner of Epik along with other assets. That's not a bad thing. It is what it is. He just needs to follow the same rules we all do and NamePros management has made it clear that they are working with Rob to be sure he doesn't accidentally or otherwise, break any rules.

I have come to appreciate Rob's thoughtful, inclusive, open, go-getter, philosophical, rebel, personality. I also respect his accomplishments. We should all, always, try to be respectful.

Namepros is not an easy crowd. I applaud his clear success at starting good conversations. He does that in real life too.

Thanks for that.

We have a lot going on. That's true. I believe we can help the industry re-ignite some growth engines that are dearly needed.

The recent exchange with NameBio here shows that we can have some healthy banter and people bring their experiences and some folks bring their data. The tone is mostly civil.

The linking to products or example is done in the context. We'll see if we can dial that back. Like I said elsewhere, some busy weeks ahead so will defer to others to keep NP exciting.

Good luck! Will try to answer PMs asap.

 

[wwwweb]

I have to say people are maybe being a bit harsh on Rob, as I don't see to many other CEO's spending their hours here trying to develop, and build products that try to help domainers expand their trade.

The people who use Epik payment services tend to be very satisfied with the speed, and payout options provided, as an option to many other higher commission options.

Epik seems to run a lot of promos offering to purchase domains for their projects exclusively thru the namepros channel.

I see bogus wanted ads, or people selling .company, or robot domains for millions of dollars with constant daily bumps as more of an issue than an experienced ceo opening up topics, helping people close deals, and buying domains... You need people like this pushing the limits otherwise you will see what happens, when companies know you have lower priced options they have to stay in line, otherwise it is open season, and 30% commissions coming your way.

I don't see many companies offering $5.99 unlimited transfers, that is free money, and if they do, these companies don't have the option where you can actively sell/lease your domain for basically nil commission.

Epik is casuing a lot of much needed disruption in this space, this entire category talk is silly, it doesn't matter what category it is posted in, it is quite obvious the threads are creating engagement, questions, and conversation, all healthy for a forum.

 

[DaveX]

Thanks for that.

We have a lot going on. That's true. I believe we can help the industry re-ignite some growth engines that are dearly needed.

The recent exchange with NameBio here shows that we can have some healthy banter and people bring their experiences and some folks bring their data. The tone is mostly civil.

The linking to products or example is done in the context. We'll see if we can dial that back. Like I said elsewhere, some busy weeks ahead so will defer to others to keep NP exciting.

Good luck! Will try to answer PMs asap.

I hope you can find a way to manage your busy weeks ahead and continue contributing as you have been.

Best of luck friend

 

[Grilled]

This thread title reminds me of the beginning of track #5 of the Space Jam sound track...

Greetings Earthlings

We have now taken over your radio...

Edit

Greeting Earthlings namePros

We Rob have has now taken over your radio feeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed...

*head bangs*: not against a wall like but head bangs like a long haired rocker

 

[Domain_savvy]

There are a lot of things to unpack in this thread,

First I will say, the mods should be on top of a post and making a reply on whether what's going on in a thread is ok, they can have a rubber stamp, copy and paste, something a long the lines of, "this post is well within the rules of namepros so no need to report it, it's allowed." So after the first report, they will not get repetitive reports taking up their time

Like look I asked a question because all hell was breaking loose off Namepros https://www.namepros.com/threads/wh...e-offthehandle-katebuckley-situation.1163067/

I asked what is the Namepros official position? @NamePros @Mod Team Echo @Mod Team Alfa @Mod Team Bravo Was the post in violation of a Namepros rule?

The next day a friend texted me and said "I see they doxxed offthehandle on Twitter, will Namepros ban those people?" My reply hell if I know, open a thread and ask. Their reply, "f*ck NO!"

Secondly your signature line should be used effectively to market if that is a goal here, so don't put your services in every post, I think Rob is trying to do both in my opinion, he is trying to give advice how he sees it, and he a lot of experience and I think he tries to help. He also wants people to use his company and their products, which makes sense, but a forum does have rules how much promotion in a discussion thread you have, and that can be tweaked.

Thirdly, People are going to go after people they don't like, over 15 years here i have had people dm me asking if I could help, "Can you post against this member? "Dislike this post please"

Here is another tidbit for the new or the old that are uninformed, there are spies here, and there are people here who don't like domainers, yes they belong to a domain forum and they don't like domainers. Some it's about morality others it's jealousy or they love being a troll. But there are members that will email a company letting them know that there is talk about a name that might violate their intellectual property. In a heated back and forth back in like 2009 I was asking someone who told me what they thought of domainers why are they on Namepros? I was like you are a domainer, "No Raymond I am not a domainer, call me anything you like but please never call me a domainer."

There is a lot of petty stuff that goes on, I modded it for 12 years. At least with Rob and Frank here it's open and transparent, I respect someone saying I don't like this. It's the mods job to say if you don't like it you might need to move on or change your viewing habits if it's allowed here.

@Ategy.com is correct that posts that get moved here or reviews do lose steam, except for those that go after Rob.

There were people who used to report incomplete whois on other members back in the day.

Look I spoke to someone on Saturday I haven't seen on here in awhile, they are like a 2006 join date, and I said why are you never on Namepros? I hate they allowed politics. I said I don't care for it either and avoid it, it's easy to avoid, (In 15 years I have spent 15 minutes in all breakroom threads) so just don't go to that section, the mods do a great job of keeping that out. Their reply was that they can see it on the sidebar and the very notion it exists made them leave namepros. Ok what can you do? And I am cool with this person, known them for years, hate political discussion more than they do but I respect it's in a section that I can avoid. Everyone is not going to get everything they want, this is not Twitter, or Facebook where, you are triggering me brah, I am offended brah, I am going to tweet about you and ruin your life brah, now your banned brah, gfy Brah.

That's not what this place is you can't bully someone into silence (the day that happens the boycott should begin), when you get to a point there are too many allowed things you don't like, you have to leave.

So those 'spies' i im guessing are TM lawyers who are looking to find thier next potential client. This is whole new information for me. We should be more careful with our names then.

 

[equity78]

So those 'spies' i im guessing are TM lawyers who are looking to find thier next potential client. This is whole new information for me. We should be more careful with our names then.

No not necessarily, there are some people who look to be a thorn in the side of someone they don't like. Years ago someone was defending their right to a Fortune 500 company related domain I believe it was, and then another member posted they contacted the company to let them know.

 

[DaveX]

There are a lot of things to unpack in this thread,

First I will say, the mods should be on top of a post and making a reply on whether what's going on in a thread is ok, they can have a rubber stamp, copy and paste, something a long the lines of, "this post is well within the rules of namepros so no need to report it, it's allowed." So after the first report, they will not get repetitive reports taking up their time

Like look I asked a question because all hell was breaking loose off Namepros https://www.namepros.com/threads/wh...e-offthehandle-katebuckley-situation.1163067/

I asked what is the Namepros official position? @NamePros @Mod Team Echo @Mod Team Alfa @Mod Team Bravo Was the post in violation of a Namepros rule?

The next day a friend texted me and said "I see they doxxed offthehandle on Twitter, will Namepros ban those people?" My reply hell if I know, open a thread and ask. Their reply, "f*ck NO!"

Secondly your signature line should be used effectively to market if that is a goal here, so don't put your services in every post, I think Rob is trying to do both in my opinion, he is trying to give advice how he sees it, and he a lot of experience and I think he tries to help. He also wants people to use his company and their products, which makes sense, but a forum does have rules how much promotion in a discussion thread you have, and that can be tweaked.

Thirdly, People are going to go after people they don't like, over 15 years here i have had people dm me asking if I could help, "Can you post against this member? "Dislike this post please"

Here is another tidbit for the new or the old that are uninformed, there are spies here, and there are people here who don't like domainers, yes they belong to a domain forum and they don't like domainers. Some it's about morality others it's jealousy or they love being a troll. But there are members that will email a company letting them know that there is talk about a name that might violate their intellectual property. In a heated back and forth back in like 2009 I was asking someone who told me what they thought of domainers why are they on Namepros? I was like you are a domainer, "No Raymond I am not a domainer, call me anything you like but please never call me a domainer."

There is a lot of petty stuff that goes on, I modded it for 12 years. At least with Rob and Frank here it's open and transparent, I respect someone saying I don't like this. It's the mods job to say if you don't like it you might need to move on or change your viewing habits if it's allowed here.

@Ategy.com is correct that posts that get moved here or reviews do lose steam, except for those that go after Rob.

There were people who used to report incomplete whois on other members back in the day.

Look I spoke to someone on Saturday I haven't seen on here in awhile, they are like a 2006 join date, and I said why are you never on Namepros? I hate they allowed politics. I said I don't care for it either and avoid it, it's easy to avoid, (In 15 years I have spent 15 minutes in all breakroom threads) so just don't go to that section, the mods do a great job of keeping that out. Their reply was that they can see it on the sidebar and the very notion it exists made them leave namepros. Ok what can you do? And I am cool with this person, known them for years, hate political discussion more than they do but I respect it's in a section that I can avoid. Everyone is not going to get everything they want, this is not Twitter, or Facebook where, you are triggering me brah, I am offended brah, I am going to tweet about you and ruin your life brah, now your banned brah, gfy Brah.

That's not what this place is you can't bully someone into silence (the day that happens the boycott should begin), when you get to a point there are too many allowed things you don't like, you have to leave.

I actually laughed hard reading your post. Especially about the old friend that left NP because he could see the side bar. Too funny.

 

[Grilled]

The next day a friend texted me and said "I see they doxxed offthehandle on Twitter, will Namepros ban those people?" My reply hell if I know, open a thread and ask. Their reply, "f*ck NO!"

Shame on Josh R. and Shane C.

 

[DaveX]

I can see you didn't mean it to be funny, but I found it funny that a person would leave an entire community because of something in a sidebar. That the mere small box on the right side of the screen and the notion that a political thread existed was enough to cause them to not come back to such a resource I find comical.

 

[equity78]

I can see you didn't mean it to be funny, but I found it funny that a person would leave an entire community because of something in a sidebar. That the mere small box on the right side of the screen and the notion that a political thread existed was enough to cause them to not come back to such a resource I find comical.

Oh that part I found ridiculous, I agree. He found namepros ridiculous and left. But you said you laughed at the post especially that part is why I replied.

 

[DaveX]

Oh that part I found ridiculous, I agree. He found namepros ridiculous and left. But you said you laughed at the post especially that part is why I replied.

Ahh, sorry. I knew your post was serious. It was only that part that made me laugh. The rest wasn't funny.

 

[frank-germany]

Secondly your signature line should be used effectively to market if that is a goal here, so don't put your services in every post, I think Rob is trying to do both in my opinion, he is trying to give advice how he sees it, and he a lot of experience and I think he tries to help. He also wants people to use his company and their products, which makes sense, but a forum does have rules how much promotion in a discussion thread you have, and that can be tweaked.

I don't have a problem with people explaining solutions to a problem
and in case they offer a product to solve that issue
I have no problem with them explaining it.

For me, it's starting to become controversial
when a problem is invented in order to gain new customers
who didn't know they had that problem

It's not an uncommon strategy.

But when I come across, I feel the urge to interfere.

For example:
I may be uninformed, but for me, Cloudflare is a great company
offering a fantastic service
and when I follow them on twitter
I think those are great people.

Now somebody is coming here promoting an alternative service
and talking about Cloudflare like they are sons of the evil
and implying that somebody is uninformed and naive
when he doesn't recognize it.



For example:
I know nothing about the escrow industry.

But nowadays I get the feeling that I must have been lucky.

I have always finalized my deals at escrow . com
Maybe they had been better in the past.
Maybe they grew and don't have the capacity to please everybody by now.

I hear in this forum, that it is a bad idea to use them
and I hear in this forum that epik has a greater escrow
than anybody, though they are no escrow company in the first place.

I was always fine with DANs escrow and with Sedos escrow too.

Basically I don't have an escrow issue.


For example:

I didn't know I had not enough .orgs in my portfolio

Luckily somebody informed me
how to get them cheaply.


and so on

 

[biggie]

Hi

just like to say, for the record

it's not personal against Rob. it's business
as long as there is compliance, then I don't have any issues

if I follow the posting rules as stated in the forums TOS, then I expect everyone else to abide accordingly.
that's being professional first, and respectful, second.

it's like having manners when you go to somebody else's house.
you show respect for those that are there, in attendance.

to me, it's the principle and in principle, it, the rules, should be adhered to.

I think some are letting their admiration, blind them to such principles and ethics.

as long as they are getting fed a steady diet of this and that, which engages their mind to think within the parameters set forth by the messenger... then they are content, with the content.

but they are failing to see the promotional context, which is the intent of delivery.

in an ideal situation, members should moderate themselves..
however, it's good to see staff speak to this issue and hope they can provide clarity and guidance, as needed.

again, it's not personal, it's business.

imo...

 

[DaveX]

Hi

just like to say, for the record

it's not personal against Rob. it's business
as long as there is compliance, then I don't have any issues

if I follow the posting rules as stated in the forums TOS, then I expect everyone else to abide accordingly.
that's being professional first, and respectful, second.

it's like having manners when you go to somebody else's house.
you show respect for those that are there, in attendance.

to me, it's the principle and in principle, it, the rules, should be adhered to.

I think some are letting their admiration, blind them to such principles and ethics.

as long as they are getting fed a steady diet of this and that, which engages their mind to think within the parameters set forth by the messenger... then they are content, with the content.

but they are failing to see the promotional context, which is the intent of delivery.

in an ideal situation, members should moderate themselves..
however, it's good to see staff speak to this issue and hope they can provide clarity and guidance, as needed.

again, it's not personal, it's business.

imo...

That's whats up.

 

[Bravo Mod Team]

it's just that sometimes I feel threads are too aggressively moved to the review section. Particuarly when it comes to things so broad like GoDaddy auctions where it literally affects more than 50% of domainers.

All threads about a specific person or company are considered Reviews to us and moved there accordingly, when they come to our attention.

Threads may lose attention in the Reviews section when they are not domain-specific discussions. Otherwise, those threads still appear under Domain Name Discussion, the Overview, New Posts, etc. if they're categorized properly.

What I used to do in my old forum was leave the ones that truly merited global attention .. then after the topic naturally started slowing down I'd move it yet still leave a forward/redirect so it still showed in the index of the original forum .. then I'd cleanup/delete the redirect after the topic dropped off the 1st or 2nd page.

We do that sometimes, but mostly as a result of it not coming to our attention for a few days or weeks. Or being too busy to get to it for a few days. These are low priority matters.

I often times find myself wanting to write about something that is related to something that happened at a particular registrar, but with the focus of my intended discussion to be more about the issue/incident in question as opposed to the particular registrar or domain service .. but I just don't post those anymore because I know they will be moved and effectively mostly collect dust.

Don't mention the company name and it won't be moved. Easy.

Thinking about it now, I don't even know where the review section is from the home page .. although I do admit I probably could find it quick if I wanted to

Visit the home page, type Ctrl+F, and then type "Reviews" without the quotes.

Especially about the old friend that left NP because he could see the side bar

It's worth noting that if you decrease the size of your browser window, the sidebar will appear at the very bottom of the page below everything else and be out of sight for the most part. Cc @equity78

 

[equity78]

I don't have a problem with people explaining solutions to a problem
and in case they offer a product to solve that issue
I have no problem with them explaining it.

For me, it's starting to become controversial
when a problem is invented in order to gain new customers
who didn't know they had that problem

It's not an uncommon strategy.

But when I come across, I feel the urge to interfere.

For example:
I may be uninformed, but for me, Cloudflare is a great company
offering a fantastic service
and when I follow them on twitter
I think those are great people.

Now somebody is coming here promoting an alternative service
and talking about Cloudflare like they are sons of the evil
and implying that somebody is uninformed and naive
when he doesn't recognize it.



For example:
I know nothing about the escrow industry.

But nowadays I get the feeling that I must have been lucky.

I have always finalized my deals at escrow . com
Maybe they had been better in the past.
Maybe they grew and don't have the capacity to please everybody by now.

I hear in this forum, that it is a bad idea to use them
and I hear in this forum that epik has a greater escrow
than anybody, though they are no escrow company in the first place.

I was always fine with DANs escrow and with Sedos escrow too.

Basically I don't have an escrow issue.


For example:

I didn't know I had not enough .orgs in my portfolio

Luckily somebody informed me
how to get them cheaply.


and so on

I get what you are saying especially with Cloudflare, I do think Escrow should be discussed Rob brought to light things behind the scenes people here did not know.