LLLL.com COUNTDOWN!

[VURG]

COUNTDOWN COMPLETE!

NO MORE 4 LETTER DOMAIN AVAILABLE TO REGISTER! ​

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Since early 2005, I have been investing/trading with 4 letter domain names. I started this thread due to the large variation in opinions on how many four letter domains there are available. When I started, I heard a range on viewpoints ranging from 200,000 down to nothing. What I learned that most people did not know how many were available.

Sources of Error for the estimates in number of available 4 letter domains include:

Traffic Testers: These are people who buy thousands of domains at a time to see if the domains are being visited and only keep the small percentage of domains that have regular visitors and cancel their orders for the domains that don't have a regular flow of visitors.

Inefficient ways of making estimates: There are over 450 thousand possible 4-Letter domains. There are short cuts that people can take in estimating the number that been registered that don't include all domains. One short cut that is often taken is for somebody to search through a list of previously available 4 letter names that they purchased (or got for free) and assume that all the names that are not on that list are registered.

People quoting old information:The variation in the number available changes all the time. Estimates that are months old are very different than up to date estimates.

People manipulating information for a sale:It definately is true that incorrect information on the available number of 4-letter domains can intensionally be manipulated to sell 4-letter domains at a higher price. Typically the lack of supply tends to motivate people to pay higher prices.

As a 4-letter domain trader, I believe that the information of how many 4-letter domains there are is extremely valuable for two main reasons. Firstly, my pricing of my names is subject to the amount of work it requires for customer to find for similar name. Secondly, if I want to increase my stock of 4-letter names than the information of how many there are at reg fee prices is essential.

I decided to update this thread when the number of available 4-letter domains dropped to the following levels:
22% Remaining - 25th January 2006
19% Remaining - 31st March 2006
16% Remaining - 29th June 2006
13% Remaining - 1st August 2006
10% Remaining - 15th February 2007 (crossed without traffic testing early April)
9% Remaining - 26th February 2007 (crossed without traffic testing early May)
8% Remaining - 2nd March 2007 (crossed without traffic testing in June)
7% Remaining - 21st March 2007 (crossed without traffic testing early July)
6% Remaining - 3rd July 2007(crossed without traffic testing some time in July)
5% Remaining - 1st August 2007(crossed without traffic testing August 11)
4% Remaining - 14th August 2007(crossed late August)
3% Remaining - 15th September 2007(crossed In September)
2% Remaining - 14th October 2007
1% Remaining - 31st October 2007
0% Remaining - 2nd November - COUNTDOWN COMPLETE!

Although, the number of available domains does sometime rise straight after it drops due to traffic testing and people dropping their domains, I don't consider it worth mentioning unless the rise is as significant as a 3% rise in the number of available domains.

Types of Four Letter Domains that have run out include:
- ALL OF THEM!

Since I started this thread important event about four letter domains that are worth mentioning happenned:

1: Late March/Early April 2006 there was a significant shift in the market for brandable (fake words) 4-letter domains and they started selling at significantly higher prices and the market for the names has been a lot more active ever since.

2: In July 2006, a namepros member 3par launched DYYO.com as a site committed to educating people about 4 letter domains. This is an excellent resource for those who are interested in 4 letter domain names.

3: In early February 2007. All the 4 letter domains starting with the letter A ran out.

4: wasistdas won QQNQ.COM, PCZV.COM & IQKE.COM for the competition for predicting when the 4 Letter domains would run out
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Initial Post
Less than 23% of the 4 letter domain names are unregistered. I thought I'd try to keep this thread updated every time I discover another 1% reduction. I am now routinely checking the percentage of unregisted 4 letter domains.

 

[VURG]

6% Barrier Crossed

Next Update at 5%

My guess is that the actual number of domains without traffic testing is between 7 and 7.5%. Traffic testing has started to reduce in recent months as there is less to test and a lot more of the better domains have gone. I have been suprised that the VCCV.com domains haven't been bought out yet. I expect them to go soon as well as the CVVC.com domains. Also, the domains starting with the letters B,C,D & E are slowly depleting. I expect them to go any week now.​

 

[bfluid]

Do you have a list of the VCVC.COM and CVVC.COM?

 

[VURG]

No but I have a list of domains that I put in this available domains thread that I liked. There are a lot of VCCV.com domains included. I checked yesterday and there were only 7 VCCV.com starting with the letter E.

http://www.namepros.com/317918-want-llll-com-domain-get-complete-3.html

 

[bfluid]

Thank you

 

[jarmas]

Awesome!

A total of 26995 domain names are found. - dyyo.com

Just within 1 day and 1k more domains have been taken up. It's going down pretty fast at this rate.

 

[Malaysia]

26995
this is really a good mark..
i wonder wif all the bad letters left, wif unknow value when all are reg do u think somebody might come up wif lets say 190k to register all the remainders.. n lets say the domains get to sell lets say $50 average in 3 years holding time..its a few times profit. not a bad idea if only i have the money

 

[GreenGambler]

There used to be a thread with people predicting the date that they will all be reg'd. Is that still around, I couldn't find it. I know my guess was wrong anyway, I think I guessed June, last month

Now I think I would say October, give or take a month


Ohh.. And I also went ahead and reg'd a few more:
Dyrq -- YRGP -- QaOH

 

[Malaysia]

one year ago it was 90k when i registered my first LLLL.coms
one year later its down to 29k..not bad.. maybe at this rate another 6 mths.. by next year it shud all be regged or its even speeding up

 

[Jo]

26995
this is really a good mark..
i wonder wif all the bad letters left, wif unknow value when all are reg do u think somebody might come up wif lets say 190k to register all the remainders.. n lets say the domains get to sell lets say $50 average in 3 years holding time..its a few times profit. not a bad idea if only i have the money

Let's say someone regged 26,000 at a bulk rate of $5.00 = $130,000

They'd have to renew 2 years x $130,000 = $260,000

Total price for 3 years registered = $390,000

If value increases to average $50 each - in 3 years 26,000 x $50 = $1,300,000

 

[Malaysia]

Let's say someone regged 26,000 at a bulk rate of $5.00 = $130,000

They'd have to renew 2 years x $130,000 = $260,000

Total price for 3 years registered = $390,000

If value increases to average $50 each - in 3 years 26,000 x $50 = $1,300,000

yup dats wat i tot too.. even if its $30 average price , one can still earn 200k usd+++

 

[Jo]

yup dats wat i tot too.. even if its $30 average price , one can still earn 200k usd+++

If someone is going to buy the remainders they'll probably wait till there's about 1/2 that left. Who knows...there could be investors waiting for a certain threshold and then they'll pounce! :yell:

 

[VURG]

There used to be a thread with people predicting the date that they will all be reg'd. Is that still around, I couldn't find it. I know my guess was wrong anyway, I think I guessed June, last month

Now I think I would say October, give or take a month


Ohh.. And I also went ahead and reg'd a few more:
Dyrq -- YRGP -- QaOH

I ran that thread. I moved the predictions to this thread. All incorrect predictions have been deleted. For the remaining predictions visit the front page of this thread.

I think an investor would be better off buying half of what's available now than buy off the last ones. An action like that would stimulate urgency in the speculator market to get anything. I think that there is still around 1000-2000 now that have significantly better characteristics than the rest and hence should be worth more when they all run out.

bulk price for $5 is that realistic? I would have thought a bulk price would be closer to $6.24.

 

[jarmas]

A total of 26484 domain names are found.

Just regged 3 more today. Its getting lower =)

 

[IAmAllanShore]

Why would a buyout wait until only the worst letters are left?

Makes sense only if the hypothetical "buy-outter" has a good stock of better letters that would benefit from the perceived scarcity.

As well, any "buyout" would be hard to maintain - remember how long the 3 letter .us market came in and out of bought-out status?

Just my .02

I still love LLLL.com's, but I think it's too early to expect a buyout

-Allan :gl:

 

[doggyowner]

Did my daily duty too and regged one

Regged a dropped VCVC, ELYJ.

 

[bfluid]

Did my daily duty too and regged one

Regged a dropped VCVC, ELYJ.

Nice one! I wish there was some more of those VCVC.COM left .

 

[malcolm321]

Did my part today. Registered 3 VCCV. UJVU, OJYY, OJWU

 

[bobbarato]

Okay so with the recent dip down below 27k available LLLL.com, will one telling indicator be if it goes back up by several thousand in the next week.

Um, do tasting attempts show up in the drop listings? Fun!

 

[bfluid]

I regged XEHM.COM today.

Fair, not the best though. :D

Ty Maier

 

[jarmas]

Regged another 3 today

 

[JoeCanadian]

Registered QPOX.com today. Despite the Q - thought it sounded kind of cool. Noticing significant deterioration in quality of names available for registration compared to even a few months ago.

 

[GreenGambler]

I've gone ahead and snatched up a few more myself

YDLR.com --- YRGP.com --- YTBR.com

I'm guessing that withing a few weeks of it dropping to zero it will probably go back up to a few thousand or more. Then back to zero in a few more months, then back up a bit more.. then back to zero for good

Or somthing similar... Just a guess.

 

[cache]

hope your predication true.

I've gone ahead and snatched up a few more myself

YDLR.com --- YRGP.com --- YTBR.com

I'm guessing that withing a few weeks of it dropping to zero it will probably go back up to a few thousand or more. Then back to zero in a few more months, then back up a bit more.. then back to zero for good

Or somthing similar... Just a guess.

 

[floatingworld]

Why would a buyout wait until only the worst letters are left?

Makes sense only if the hypothetical "buy-outter" has a good stock of better letters that would benefit from the perceived scarcity.

As well, any "buyout" would be hard to maintain - remember how long the 3 letter .us market came in and out of bought-out status?

Just my .02

I still love LLLL.com's, but I think it's too early to expect a buyout

-Allan :gl:

I think so too...more likely to be an accelerated scramble by latecomers afraid of missing the bus and those with an established portfolio indulging in a late snack of indigestible domain food..........................

 

[TP]

I think it will take awhile for buyout to happen. I remember threads discussion buyout of xxx.in's and a while back and I think they are still available. I would think xxx's would go faster than xxxx's.

However, I've done my share for this month and grabed a 2 dozen. Purposely when for the undesirables.

TP