discuss Landing Pages Why No All in One Solution

[Page Howe]

I Want it ALL. Landing pages with revenue, no commission, low or no monthly fee. control. txt records

So i'm trying to see if there are some other services i am unaware of out there. It seems to me every solution has holes.

I want to control and handle my own leads and not pay a commission for direct navigation inquiries.

And I want to monetize whatever traffic i do get.

I also need to sell names on third party marketplaces so I need to add txt records to names.

And in many cases i want an "artist rendering" of what the natural website would look like for the stated domain name.

And I want some control and not have to fit into someone elses thoughts on what should be on the page.

And if i find a good affiliate deal to promote, i want to put it on all my webpages with one click.

Plus i want my pages SSL and index on search engines. I dont need a promise of great SEO, just dont "not exist" and i dont want to advertise to the search engines im a parked page.

Anyone have something that comes close.

Thanks for the look and help me evaluate if you can.

 

[Ostrados]

IMO the commission you pay to a marketplace is worth it, that is because of the trust factor, people will trust a landing page hosted with a reputable company (like Uniregistry, Dan, EPIK..etc) more than a landing page from anonymous person (that can be a scammer or a hacker). So you will have a higher chance of selling your domains if they are hosted with a reputable marketplace which will justify the commission you will pay.

You can integrate Escrow.com with your own landing page, which will add a layer of trust and security to your page, but I still prefer a landing page from a reputable company because it will be much more professional and will be better in every aspect.

 

[BradWilson]

I've been in the domain game for awhile like 20 years. I've also been a web developer for even longer and thought I could roll my own - wrong.

Yes, I can do all the technical stuff and it kinda sorta works but things change and keeping up with 100's if not 1,000's of domains becomes way too much.

So after trying to do it all myself which really was a pain, instead now I let some other service take care of it for me and focus on the more important stuff like actually selling what I have. And along the way improve my buying and selling skills.

I still program, but the projects I work on now are for a much more important part of my plan and not just the basic things.

I hope that helps.

 

[frank-germany]

I've been in the domain game for awhile like 20 years. I've also been a web developer for even longer and thought I could roll my own - wrong.

Yes, I can do all the technical stuff and it kinda sorta works but things change and keeping up with 100's if not 1,000's of domains becomes way too much.

So after trying to do it all myself which really was a pain, instead now I let some other service take care of it for me and focus on the more important stuff like actually selling what I have. And along the way improve my buying and selling skills.

I still program, but the projects I work on now are for a much more important part of my plan and not just the basic things.

I hope that helps.

I have done it all
it wasn't worth the hussle

dan does the job

 

[cipcip]

thats a pretty good suggestion.

build one lander, then just find and replace with domain name?

It is not ok to build html solutions as it means you have to host all of the domains in order to have particular HTML for all.

Take a look at the scripts offered for free here on namepros, you can have only 1 hosted site and then with DNS records you can point all of the others.

Some examples:
- https://www.namepros.com/threads/dn...d-free-parking-page-for-your-domains.1135653/
- https://www.namepros.com/threads/free-one-file-landing-page-for-mulitple-domains.1110702/

Thanks,
Cristian

 

[Bob Hawkes]

Thanks for thread @Page Howe While in theory I like the idea of my own landing, and it has always been on my todo list, in practice I am several years in to the domain business, and even though I use the same (great) hosting package mentioned by @MapleDots above that would allow me to set up an infinite number of sites, I have only done it for landers for single domain names a few times. That tells me that the ease of doing it with DAN, Epik, NameSilo, Efty, etc. is worth what they charge.

I might feel differently if I was selling $20,000 domains where that commission would be a big chunk. But for me, them handling the payment and transfer, taking the risk of fraudulent buyers for most part, offering me landers that allow enough customization and look professional, they have earned their reasonable charges of 7.5 to 10% (or a bit less with leads in some cases). If I did my own landers I would spend a bit of that in charges or escrow services, and at my level of sales the difference is not worth it.

So thank you to the companies that provide great landers and reasonable commissions.

Bob

 

[capybara]

@BradWilson @equity78
you guys should have also read the comments to that nonsensical article. Its just a failed propaganda coming from a commercial certificates sellers being sour they can't control all of the market.

By the way, all domains parked at Dan and Epik use Lets Encrypt (of course).

 

[Recons.Com]

Yes, having a VPS is great but it isn't super cheap.

Unfortunately, Let's Encrypt is a different matter because after reading this I'm not so sure it's a good idea...

https://medium.com/swlh/why-lets-encrypt-is-a-really-really-really-bad-idea-d69308887801

What a BS article! Not a single worthwhile argument to bash a free alternative, besides that "it is free, so no one would be responsible if something bad happens". We all know, how the companies with CEOs paid multimillion salaries never fail the safety of their clients, right?? That is why Let's Encrypt has had zero issues so far, while Targets, Equifaxes of this world regularly are in the middle of data breaches.

Let's Encrypt must be killing these guys to come up with such a shady tactics that apparently works with some...

 

[equity78]

Thanks for thread @Page Howe While in theory I like the idea of my own landing, and it has always been on my todo list, in practice I am several years in to the domain business, and even though I use the same (great) hosting package mentioned by @MapleDots above that would allow me to set up an infinite number of sites, I have only done it for landers for single domain names a few times. That tells me that the ease of doing it with DAN, Epik, NameSilo, Efty, etc. is worth what they charge.

I might feel differently if I was selling $20,000 domains where that commission would be a big chunk. But for me, them handling the payment and transfer, taking the risk of fraudulent buyers for most part, offering me landers that allow enough customization and look professional, they have earned their reasonable charges of 7.5 to 10% (or a bit less with leads in some cases). If I did my own landers I would spend a bit of that in charges or escrow services, and at my level of sales the difference is not worth it.

So thank you to the companies that provide great landers and reasonable commissions.

Bob

Spot on Bob, having someone deal with the potential nonsense of idiot bad payers and fraud is worth 9%. I have always believed 10% is the max commission anyone is worth and it's the 20 and 30% options that are just too high.

 

[Abdullah Abdullah]

IMO the commission you pay to a marketplace is worth it, that is because of the trust factor, people will trust a landing page hosted with a reputable company (like Uniregistry, Dan, EPIK..etc) more than a landing page from anonymous person (that can be a scammer or a hacker). So you will have a higher chance of selling your domains if they are hosted with a reputable marketplace which will justify the commission you will pay.

You can integrate Escrow.com with your own landing page, which will add a layer of trust and security to your page, but I still prefer a landing page from a reputable company because it will be much more professional and will be better in every aspect.

Well said, fully agreed. I have seen such cases where buyers make no attempt to fill out a landing page they dont know then just changing it to a well known company creates a sale or inquiries.

 

[MapleDots]

It is not ok to build html solutions as it means you have to host all of the domains in order to have particular HTML for all.

Take a look at the scripts offered for free here on namepros, you can have only 1 hosted site and then with DNS records you can point all of the others.

Some examples:
- https://www.namepros.com/threads/dn...d-free-parking-page-for-your-domains.1135653/
- https://www.namepros.com/threads/free-one-file-landing-page-for-mulitple-domains.1110702/

Thanks,
Cristian

I always thought this one was excellent and the better of the two links you provided.
https://www.namepros.com/threads/free-one-file-landing-page-for-mulitple-domains.1110702/

Super easy, just park your domains in your root folder and voila.
Combine it with www.hostpapa.ca for hosting at insane low pricing in Canadian dollars which means someone from the US saves an additional 35% which comes to about $1.90 US per month.

HostPapa allows unlimited parked domains and when you combine those two you have an incredible combination for any beginner. Or just chose another super cheap host and you are on your way.

PS. HostPapa has the real cpanel for that price.

 

[BradWilson]

Ah the joy's of hosting 100's of domains on a super cheap host and being hacked or slowed to a crawl because it's on a shared account.

Or spending time and effort to install SSL certificates that may or may not be reliable. All this because SSL certificates are now needed to build trust with your potential customers. Then remembering to update them when they expire...

And finally, waiting hours for the domain to resolve to be able to connect everything so it goes live.

Nope, now I currently use Epik and it's live within minutes after a few simple edits done and ready to go - thanks next.

 

[cipcip]

Ah the joy's of hosting 100's of domains on a super cheap host and being hacked or slowed to a crawl because it's on a shared account.

Or spending time and effort to install SSL certificates that may or may not be reliable. All this because SSL certificates are now needed to build trust with your potential customers. Then remembering to update them when they expire...

And finally, waiting hours for the domain to resolve to be able to connect everything so it goes live.

Nope, now I currently use Epik and it's live within minutes after a few simple edits done and ready to go - thanks next.

A decent vps let's you install ssl for free with one click, auto-renewing every 3 months.
At least that is what Let's Encrypt with Plesk is doing + wildcard subdomains.

 

[Ostrados]

build your own page.
html is free!

 

[Mister Funsky]

There is a new parking/selling solution being built as we speak/type. It is not my place to share who, but I think it will be launched sometime in mid/late November and I am sure they will make the announcement here.

It is unclear if monetization will be included...I hope so. Whoever builds a parking/marketplace page that will allow me to sell my own 'spots' on that page for ads will get all my names (or if they have an internal 'division' for doing the same). It could be a new profit center for a progressive registrar...btw, my services are available!

 

[7363824]

I Want it ALL. Landing pages with revenue, no commission, low or no monthly fee. control. txt records

So i'm trying to see if there are some other services i am unaware of out there. It seems to me every solution has holes.

I want to control and handle my own leads and not pay a commission for direct navigation inquiries.

And I want to monetize whatever traffic i do get.

I also need to sell names on third party marketplaces so I need to add txt records to names.

And in many cases i want an "artist rendering" of what the natural website would look like for the stated domain name.

And I want some control and not have to fit into someone elses thoughts on what should be on the page.

And if i find a good affiliate deal to promote, i want to put it on all my webpages with one click.

Plus i want my pages SSL and index on search engines. I dont need a promise of great SEO, just dont "not exist" and i dont want to advertise to the search engines im a parked page.

Anyone have something that comes close.

Thanks for the look and help me evaluate if you can.

Then you should build your own. Personally I'd use PHP to dynamically generate the HTML for each domain. You can pull in the domain name, a custom description from a database, ect. And add Google Ad Sense for parking revenue. You can find an inexpensive hosting option for under $10 per month to build it on. And if you dont have the skills to build it yourself pay a one time fee to hire a developer.

 

[b2betrade]

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https://setupblockchain.org buy now lander
https://blockchainbolt.com make offer lander

 

[branding]

Yes, having a VPS is great but it isn't super cheap.

Unfortunately, Let's Encrypt is a different matter because after reading this I'm not so sure it's a good idea...

https://medium.com/swlh/why-lets-encrypt-is-a-really-really-really-bad-idea-d69308887801

The article raises some fair points but generally speaking that can happen to any CA so not worried about this at all.

The certs are valid for 3 months only which is actually a vast security improvement compared to the standard 1 or multi-year certs being offered.

People worried about MITM should investigate how cloudflare's free 'ssl' works by the way... There you'll find actual security issues.

A vps or dedicated server is the way to go if you want to automate things. OVH is decent enough for like €3 a month and you're set. Not really that expensive at all. The holdback is rather the required technical skills to operate one. Add a stack with on demand Ssl and you'll never have to generate one manually again.

 

[frank-germany]

Yes, having a VPS is great but it isn't super cheap.

Unfortunately, Let's Encrypt is a different matter because after reading this I'm not so sure it's a good idea...

https://medium.com/swlh/why-lets-encrypt-is-a-really-really-really-bad-idea-d69308887801

vpscheap.net

I pay less then $4 USD / month

in order to have it run smoothly
I (soft)reboot it several times per day

 

[cipcip]

I used to pay more than $250 USD / month for a dedicated
wasted money

I'd rather reboot

I am paying for about 23 euro per month for a dedicated server at server4you, i have 24gb ram, 2tb HDD and latest plesk obsidian with Ubuntu 18

 

[branding]

What a BS article! Not a single worthwhile argument to bash a free alternative, besides that "it is free, so no one would be responsible if something bad happens". We all know, how the companies with CEOs paid multimillion salaries never fail the safety of their clients, right?? That is why Let's Encrypt has had zero issues so far, while Targets, Equifaxes of this world regularly are in the middle of data breaches.

Let's Encrypt must be killing these guys to come up with such a shady tactics that apparently works with some...

Agree. I would even go as far as to say that if LetsEncrypt wouldn't have been rolled out Google would never have made their new TLDs SSL secured only. I'm calling it a milestone in the history of the internet.

By the way, from a technical standpoint you could just as well self sign your certificate. Browsers won't like it but it's just as secure.

 

[BradWilson]

Ha maybe it's time for this question...

How many programmers does it take to screw in a light bulb?

None, it's a hardware problem

 

[Page Howe]

build your own page.
html is free!

thats a pretty good suggestion.

build one lander, then just find and replace with domain name?

 

[BradWilson]

A decent vps let's you install ssl for free with one click, auto-renewing every 3 months.
At least that is what Let's Encrypt with Plesk is doing + wildcard subdomains.

Yes, having a VPS is great but it isn't super cheap.

Unfortunately, Let's Encrypt is a different matter because after reading this I'm not so sure it's a good idea...

https://medium.com/swlh/why-lets-encrypt-is-a-really-really-really-bad-idea-d69308887801

 

[frank-germany]

Thanks for the info, I'll need to check into this. I'm currently paying way more than that and may need to move.

I used to pay more than $250 USD / month for a dedicated
wasted money

I'd rather reboot