.tv Just Wait 10 More Years...

[Vito]

I keep hearing one constant theme in almost all of these .tv threads here. That theme I refer to is "Ok, so you are gonna have to wait another 10 years for .tv to move forward".
I firmly disagree...and let me clarify one thing here, this is not an anti-Snoop thread by any means. This theme is reiterated by multiple people. I have to actually applaud each of them and their contributions whether optimistic or pessimistic. Even that pessimism can teach us all a little something. Be Careful, Don't Piss away a bunch of money without a plan.

We all know that Premiums suck, and even the A#1 Geo.tv's can be a HUGE nut to carry, and potentially a loser unless you put it to work right away. So only those people with deep pockets will be able to hold onto many of them, and I have to say this to each and every one of them, God Bless them! That is just one more .tv domain that potentially will get developed. At least it is more likely to get some sort of developmennt today rather than tommorow because when enom gets a hold of it after the drop, well then there goes a big chunk of your money that could be concetrated on development.

Also think of this, as those Big Dog Premium .tv holders keep renewing them. If they choose to one day sell,, well that just gives you and I, a chance to possibly own a Killer Premium domain without the 100x markup!

So maybe we should be happy for those who can afford to hold on to those Premiums, rather than calling them out saying what a mistake they have made.

Anyone who has had the foresight for past 10 years on any extension, and the persistence to stick with it throughout all of the thick and thin...Well, that person is a better man/woman than I am.

But, for those of us who have entered this extension in the last 1,2,3 years...
We don't have the same sour taste as some of those who have seen the best of the best, AND the worst of the worst.

We are a whole new generation of .tv investors/developers, and see the News and Commercials daily advertising new .tv sites...I would assume we see a lot more now, then those who were involved in this extension 10 years ago.

So we come to the playing field with a whole new and fresh sense of excitement.

There will be some of us who will make the same mistakes as some of our mentors, BUT I guarantee you this...
There will also be those of us who will be a little more creative, and think outside of the box and will definitely do something that will make us ALL a little more proud of our .tv accomplishments. I am not talking about the biggest of plans to rival Oprah, NBC, Fox, Disney, etc. I',m talking about a different measure of our own success. Whatever that may be in the near future, let's all try to stick together and help each other out. I honestly do not believe any of us are late to the game. I still believe we are in the infancy of the net, and .tv.

So Thank You for all of the negativity about the .tv extension everyone. You are here in .tv land so I know you are passionate about this .tv extension. You are only making us all better at our own .tv Portfolio strategies.

 

[*AllThings.tv*]

Thank you for the appreciation and support!

 

[benzdorf]

I seconed that motion !

 

[freedom30]

Nice post dot stop and well put...you have resonated the opinions of many of the serious investors and speculators on this board.


Hark, what distant and ominous shadow do I see approaching toward this thread?
Guilty, as charged! The grand inquisitor and crusading punisher Don Quixote appears to be within sight! Now is the chance for all to flee to another thread lest he exacts his retribution upon the .tv forum population.

 

[snoop]

I keep hearing one constant theme in almost all of these .tv threads here. That theme I refer to is "Ok, so you are gonna have to wait another 10 years for .tv to move forward".
I firmly disagree...and let me clarify one thing here, this is not an anti-Snoop thread by any means.
This theme is reiterated by multiple people.

It isn't my viewpoint that .tv speculators will be waiting another 10 years. The extension is what it is now.

For the people who have been saying wait a few more years I am saying people have been saying that for 10 years already. How long to do plan on waiting for something? Are you drawing at a definate point in time or will you just keep stringing it out forever?

The extension is what it is, a niche extension with a degree of usage. It isn't alot of usage but it is relatively well known. The people who think this extension is going to dramatically change in terms of public acceptance usage are not being realistic in my view. Better to make money today then hope that you ship is going to come in at some unknown time.

We all know that Premiums suck, and even the A#1 Geo.tv's can be a HUGE nut to carry, and potentially a loser unless you put it to work right away. So only those people with deep pockets will be able to hold onto many of them, and I have to say this to each and every one of them, God Bless them! That is just one more .tv domain that potentially will get developed. At least it is more likely to get some sort of developmennt today rather than tommorow because when enom gets a hold of it after the drop, well then there goes a big chunk of your money that could be concetrated on development.

For the domainers who have been holding names for years talking about how they are going to develop most of their names the chance of anything actually happening is remote. It is like the guy with 360 domains in the other thread. Real development generally happens as soon as a name is registered, not after sitting on names for years.

Also think of this, as those Big Dog Premium .tv holders keep renewing them. If they choose to one day sell,, well that just gives you and I, a chance to possibly own a Killer Premium domain without the 100x markup!

I guess the hope is that they will sell cheap? Ultimately though holding on to a whole lot of premium names benefits Verisign, not domainers.

Anyone who has had the foresight for past 10 years on any extension, and the persistence to stick with it throughout all of the thick and thin...Well, that person is a better man/woman than I am.

In what way, surely they would have seen a pretty poor return given the level of sales in the market? Especially so compared to the rest of the domain market.

But, for those of us who have entered this extension in the last 1,2,3 years...
We don't have the same sour taste as some of those who have seen the best of the best, AND the worst of the worst.

Hang on, didn't you just say they had a lot of foresight? Now they have a sour taste in their mouth?

We are a whole new generation of .tv investors/developers, and see the News and Commercials daily advertising new .tv sites...I would assume we see a lot more now, then those who were involved in this extension 10 years ago.

Have never seen any proper data on it. 10 years ago I remmeber seeing .tv used to a reasonable degree though. Usage is likely up but I don't see any dramatic changes.

I would say sales level earlier in the decade are not dissimilar to now, ie occasional 5 figures sales being reported each year plus a few 4 figure sales each week.

So we come to the playing field with a whole new and fresh sense of excitement.

Of the people who came to this market 1-3 years ago, I think the vast majority would have lost most of what was put in. I do think there will be another boom though, at some point. I think it will be somewhat similar to the last two, speculator driven, small boom, big bust.

I honestly do not believe any of us are late to the game. I still believe we are in the infancy of the net, and .tv.

Personally I don't think the people early to .tv have really done much better than those who came in late.

 

[Argos]

Welcome to .tv power and seduction and welcome to evolution, hope and vision, enthusiasm and creativity, the past is full of lessons but the web full speed ahead to new market audiences, everything is possible, more than before, it is not about luck it is about work, find your niche, profile your portfolio, shape your project, design your business model, fuel it with content, select your tv brand name, get it done make it real. Welcome and thank you The Dot Stop.

 

[Kate]

Also think of this, as those Big Dog Premium .tv holders keep renewing them. If they choose to one day sell,, well that just gives you and I, a chance to possibly own a Killer Premium domain without the 100x markup!

As if they had a pack of buyers at the front door ready to sign a cheque :red:

So maybe we should be happy for those who can afford to hold on to those Premiums, rather than calling them out saying what a mistake they have made.

The real question is, do they make money on them ?
If they sit on domains with a hefty renewal price, these domains are not assets but liabilities.

Anyone who has had the foresight for past 10 years on any extension, and the persistence to stick with it throughout all of the thick and thin...Well, that person is a better man/woman than I am.

But, for those of us who have entered this extension in the last 1,2,3 years...
We don't have the same sour taste as some of those who have seen the best of the best, AND the worst of the worst.

We are a whole new generation of .tv investors/developers, and see the News and Commercials daily advertising new .tv sites...I would assume we see a lot more now, then those who were involved in this extension 10 years ago.

So we come to the playing field with a whole new and fresh sense of excitement.

Maybe you're a new generation, after all people enter and drop out of domaining every day. But the game hasn't changed significantly in 10 years for .tv.
Over the last decade CNO & ccTLDs have soared but I believe relative stagnation is an accurate word to describe the state of the .tv extension.

So Thank You for all of the negativity about the .tv extension everyone.

No negativity, just being realistic.

Personally I would rather make money today on proven extensions, rather than bank on the hypothetical takeoff of .tv.
I think there is a sense of confusion between investment and speculation here.

In my view, .tv is no worse than .me for example, except for the premium pricing. I kinda like it actually but it's not a good extension for pure play domaining and it makes it easier to waste your money.

 

[Vito]

Thanks for your input, everyone.

I guess I was just feeling a little reflective last night when I posted this O.P.
This truly is a creative and knowledgable .tv Forum here and I was feeling very glad to be a part of it.

It was starting to seem like most of the threads here lately were getting a little hostile, so I just wanted to kindof create a more or less positive thread.

Lets face it, We're all here for the same reason - To make .tv work for each of us in our own unique ways, whether it be money, development, exposure, history, facts, or whatever...

Thats it.

 

[*AllThings.tv*]

Lets face it, We're all here for the same reason - To make .tv work for each of us in our own unique ways, whether it be money, development, exposure, history, facts, or whatever...

Thats it.

Everyone except the dot tv antifans who feel compelled to spend their time disrupting positive threads. Don't forget that they are always lurking and trolling the dot tv subforum to spoil good discussions rather than spending their time on more productive uses. Myself and other members are fed up with this and we are speaking out.

 

[TheBulldog]

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[Vito]

Ok, I tried...lol

 

[biznews]

Look at this - The Secret :: Official Web Site of The Secret Movie :: Law of Attraction

made hundreds of millions and counting.

it's not AS MUCH the extension, but your business model for that domain.