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HYHPENATED .COM domains are BACK IN FASHION!

Located in General Domain Discussion started by Rob Monster, Sep 19, 2019.

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Are you going to be buying more hyphen .COM domains in late 2019?

  1. Yup, I am backing up the truck and loading up!

    12.7%
  2. Yes, but I am going to go slow there

    19.9%
  3. No change

    46.4%
  4. I am dumping most of hyphen .COM domains

    17.5%
  5. Nah, .COM is toxic sludge

    3.6%
Total: 166 vote(s)
  1. Bob Hawkes

    Bob Hawkes formerly MetBob NameTalent Gold Account VIP Trusted Blogger

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    I am not sure if it is possible to differentiate multiple hyphens, but you can readily see how many are for sale with and without hyphens in any extension by using the Advanced Search feature of Dofo.com with TLD, for sale, and with or without hyphen selected. That is how I got the numbers for the statistics above.

    Bob
     
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  2. Rob Monster

    Rob Monster CEO, Epik Epik.com Staff PRO Gold Account VIP

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    From what I know, the Germans do like their hyphens.

    Also, from what I am watching, more German and European retail end-users are buying .COM and even using it instead of ccTLD. I am not sure if that is a trend..
     
  3. Lox

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    That’s related to the cyber security , no one can beat the .com Verisign’s effort ... light years ahead.
     
  4. manpreet

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    Agreed, acquired some hyphenated .com's recently.
     
  5. efizi

    efizi Established Member

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    Well, If I recall properly, I only have one hyphenated .com domain.

    s/t/e/a/l/t/h-d/r/o/n/e/s
     
  6. NameDeck

    NameDeck Design. Develop. Deploy. VIP

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    I think it's a bit early to say they're back in fashion. I recently came across this article: https://domainnamewire.com/2019/04/03/sometimes-domains-with-hyphens-make-dollars-and-sense/

    Sales seem quite stable judging by the data they provide. There is opportunity though. As more people will need a .com in the future it's obvious more will settle for the next best thing. Not only that but they're probably forced into using the next best thing (hyphenated names) as the 'real deal' is already in use.

    So yes, there is money left on the table currently as people shy away from investing in hyphenated domains but I have yet to come across data that supports a notable increase in sales over a noteworthy timespan.
     
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  8. Josytal

    Josytal Top Member VIP

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    Recently got two low $XXXX offers for coin-bet / com
    Not sure if it's 'cos of the keywords or new trend.
    Rejected the offers. Looking for more.
     
  9. eurorealtor

    eurorealtor okre.com VIP

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    Dropped all. The only one I'm still renewing is Mississippi-insurance.com.
     
  10. domainicate

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    No disrespect intended, but it sounds like you got lucky... hyphenated domains are simply poor for branding. Few people will remember the hyphen, so they will likely help whoever has the non-hyphenated domain.
     
  11. equity78

    equity78 Top Member TLDInvestors.com TheDomains Staff PRO Gold Account VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    The top 10 hyphenated sales of all time according to Namebio

    hotel-reservation.com 209,916 USD 2009-09-23 Sedo
    free-sms.de 162,150 USD 2010-01-26 Sedo
    online-casino.de 144,900 USD 2012-06-20 Sedo
    online-casinos.de 84,500 USD 2012-03-21 Sedo
    18-wheeler.com 82,390 USD 2007-07-03 Moniker
    faire-part.com 59,056 USD 2008-11-04 Sedo
    blackjack-vegas.de 53,218 USD 2017-04-07 Sedo
    sci-fi.com 50,000 USD 2017-04-25 Uniregistry
    black-jack.com 49,657 USD 2017-03-29 Sedo
    online-games.com 48,000 USD 2012-04-04 Sedo

    As an fyi I regged Blackjack-Vegas.com when the .de sale happened to see if any traffic or interest would happen on the .com over the next year, there was none and I dropped it.

    Namebio has 724,491 sales of those 19,323 hyphenated or 2.66% of all sales.
     
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  12. equity78

    equity78 Top Member TLDInvestors.com TheDomains Staff PRO Gold Account VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    Here was one from 2006 buyer might have regretted paying that much for a hyphenated .info New-York.info $22,864 https://namebio.com/new-york.info redirects to PalmBeach.com.
     
  13. equity78

    equity78 Top Member TLDInvestors.com TheDomains Staff PRO Gold Account VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    Block-Chain.com sold for $30,000
     
  14. equity78

    equity78 Top Member TLDInvestors.com TheDomains Staff PRO Gold Account VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    Hotel-Reservation.com was a great flip, it was first purchased for $4,080 in 2007 and sold for $209,916 in 2009. Today the domain does not even resolve. This two word combo is registered in 79 extensions.
     
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  15. Ja Kai

    Ja Kai Established Member

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    Funny,
     
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  16. equity78

    equity78 Top Member TLDInvestors.com TheDomains Staff PRO Gold Account VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    Here is an article Rob wrote 9 years ago on Hyphens https://epik.com/blog/please-give-me-your-hyphenated-domains.html

    SeoBlog.com wrote At the end of the day, you can use hyphens if you want, but it’s generally not recommended if it can be avoided. The hassles are many and there are no actual advantages unless you absolutely need the clarification.

    https://www.seoblog.com/hyphen-dash-hurt-seo/

    @Alvin Brown wrote his thoughts 6 years ago here https://www.kickstartcommerce.com/buying-domain-names-with-hyphens.html

    Andrew Allemann writing for Namecheap made it his first thing to never do https://www.namecheap.com/blog/5-things-to-never-include-in-a-domain-name/

    Comparison of the effect of single-word versus hyphenated domain name choices on website visibility.

    Why Using Hyphens in a Domain Name is a Bad Idea https://www.avara.co.uk/why-using-hyphens-in-a-domain-name-is-a-bad-idea/

    Are Hyphenated Domain Names Dead? http://q2c.com/are-hyphenated-domain-names-dead/

    Brad Mugford's hyphenated names http://www.datacube.com/Hypyenated.html


     
  17. Alvin Brown

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    My most recent article and research this year as mentioned earlier: https://domainnamewire.com/2019/04/03/sometimes-domains-with-hyphens-make-dollars-and-sense/
     
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  18. topdom

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    Invent a new name for hypen/dash, like dot, and such domains will work better. Or place it somewhere
    easy to locate on keyboards. Maybe a double dot (..) , or space character can be made to understood as - in domain part of urls. We got rid of www and http, and the next step might be simplifying -.
    ............
    These domains can work, but LL-L.com and L-LL.com domains are not liquid, although I think they should be as liquid as LLLL.com, and this makes me think twice about such domains. I would say - character multiplies a domain's value by 1/100. it can also be 1/10, but quite often it is just zero. Just like .com v.s. .net.
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    Liquidity is as important as value.
     
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  19. NameDeck

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    On your site t/u/r/k/e/y/o/n/l/i/n/e doesn't show a hyphen... Just a heads up ;)
     
  20. eurorealtor

    eurorealtor okre.com VIP

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    My very first domain .com was hyphenated and I spent couple of grand to develop it back in 2002. People in certain countries prefer mostly hyphenated domains even today.
     
  21. bmugford

    bmugford www.DataCube.com PRO ICA Member VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    That is a very old list. I haven't update that section in a long time, many years.
    I think I probably have about 100 two word hyphen .COM now.

    All the ones that get offers are two word .COM that make sense or short ones like L-L.com.

    I have sold many over the years but it is really always going to be a secondary option for most buyers.

    Some people might choose the hyphenated .COM, some might choose another extension, some might just add an extra word in .COM. It is one of many secondary options.

    Brad
     
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  22. bmugford

    bmugford www.DataCube.com PRO ICA Member VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    I agree. My most recent sale was to a buyer in Germany.

    From my experience German buyers have less of an issue with hyphens than many other places.

    Brad
     
    Last edited: Sep 21, 2019
  23. equity78

    equity78 Top Member TLDInvestors.com TheDomains Staff PRO Gold Account VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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  24. Riz M.

    Riz M. EmpireNames.com Gold Account

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    I m thinking to increase price on my-cloud.com
    I had offers of mid xxx but my bin is 1995 so i believe i should raise price to mid xxxx?
    What you guys think?
     
  25. rh2000

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    Nice sale.
     

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