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GoDaddy could wipe Efty, DAN, BB + off the map if Afternic were branded to GoDaddy

Located in Domain Marketplace Reviews, started by Lox, Jan 11, 2020

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  1. Rob Monster

    Rob Monster CEO, Epik Epik.com Staff PRO VIP

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    Never heard of him before.

    I pinged him on LinkedIn a while back. He has yet to accept the invite:

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    I can't figure this guy out.
     
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  2. JB Lions

    JB Lions Top Contributor VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    He accepted mine awhile back, of course I said I was a long time customer/domainer.

    This is going to sound like a dig at you but it's a serious question. Is it possible he Googled you? You continually link to MapleDot's thread for some reason, from a variety of places. You just keep giving that thread new links in. That's a basic part of SEO. You help keep that stuff on page 1 Google. I've always said stick to business, stop bringing that stuff up.

    Or it could be he's busy and will eventually accept the invite and do business with you.
     
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  3. marijuanadomain

    marijuanadomain Established Member

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    DomainShame is going to send me a free electric toothbrush!!

    No transparency on the BIN landing page.
     
  4. marijuanadomain

    marijuanadomain Established Member

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    Aman Bhutani was the CEO of Expedia and got "fired"

    I don't think he will last long at GD because his passion and skill sets are not in the domain business.
     
  5. Domain Shane

    Domain Shane Top Member DSAD.com Staff PRO VIP ICA Member ★★★★★★★★★★

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    It's on a domain. Twitter.com You're acting like my bicycle is going to devalue the value of my car. Twitter, Instagram and Namepros all have their value and can be complementary to a website. Each person can determine what they use it for. It may be marketing, it may be for entertainment. I tweet because its a quick way to communicate. And the real irony in your statement is my tweet is the headline of this thread. A tweet given publicity to me and our group over at DSAD.com. It's gotten people to think and discuss a topic, not just on Twitter but on other "domains" People may have even visited DSAD.com because of it. Pretty sure that's good for domains
     
  6. Internet.Domains

    Internet.Domains Account Closed (Requested) VIP

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    Yes, discussion is good and thanks for starting the conversation.

    I don't agree about your car/bicycle analogy. I would compare social media/domains to more of a combustible/electric car. Point being they compete for market share.

    Thanks again for getting the wheels rolling. That is, for getting the conversation started, even if it was on social media.
     
  7. Sutruk

    Sutruk Top Contributor VIP

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    We only need a Godaddy.com landing page, only with the domain for sale and the Buy it Now button. (not an Afternic.com landing saying that's Godaddy's brand, people want and needs to be at Godaddy.com to make the purchase).

    With no domain suggestions, with no selfmade appraisals, with nothing else than the domain and the buy it now button (or make offer).

    Something that can be EASILY pointed, like:

    godaddy.com/Item.aspx?src=MyDomain.com

    We just need this, something that the Godaddy engineers can make in 24h. Let's say just for domains listed for sale at Godaddy, not at Afternic, to begin with.

    Would be nice to test this one and see what happens.
     
  8. tonyk2000

    tonyk2000 Top Contributor VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    So far:
    https://auctions.godaddy.com/trpItemListing.aspx?domain=MyDomain.com

    Somebody needs to convinience GD management to change something in their internal competition between departments for results and $$$ earned. So far, "winners" are not aftermarket dept, but those depts who sell new gtlds, as new gtld registries are likely paying GD for extra visibility... Without this, our domains will be forever shown only in search results together with tons of alternative suggestions.
     
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  9. Sutruk

    Sutruk Top Contributor VIP

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    Thanks for the link! It redirects to another url for the same domain, but it works.
    But still, it appears the "Appraisal" section for a make offer domain.
    Thanks for the link. I have used it, but lost it and didn't know that it still works.

    I totally agree with you.
     
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  10. tonyk2000

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    It is supposed to. In particular, it also redirects to localized websites like uk.godaddy.com where appropriate...
     
  11. Windoms

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    Guys,

    You know as GoDaddy's CEO will be at Namescon.
    If we are really serious about it.
    We could get @Bob Hawkes to deliver a message to Mr Bhutani.
    Like the official namepros community (domainers) representative.
    Since it's a domainer's conference.
    And namepros being the main spot for domainers.
    We could easily have someone deliver a message on behalf of domainers.
    Someone trustworthy, immune to external influences, and bribery.

    Our message:
    we want GoDaddy landers and free Whois privacy with discount club lol.
    I'm dead serious.

    Slow payment, apparently good for fraud protection, crypto payment, let's try to not mention those non-essential points. It's a large corporation.

    Keep it simple. Like 3 points.

    100% GoDaddy branded landers.
    Free Whois privacy with discount club.
    Something else.

    I suspect he will have 2 bodyguards.
    @Joe Styler @Paul Nicks

    2 bodyguards which could be our door to Mr Bhutani, if the namepros community is dead serious about conveying its official message through @Bob Hawkes

    As a new CEO he must be curious or willing to learn about domain investing or something.
    Don't think he's ever returning to Namescon after that lol.
    Sometimes stars align. I believe this is our chance.
     
  12. Windoms

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  13. Joe Styler

    Joe Styler Aftermarket Product Manager GoDaddy Staff Afternic Staff PRO VIP

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    We do have GoDaddy branded landers if you point to ns3 and ns4.afternic.com like expertmine.com as an example. They have improved sales and were based on customer feedback.
     
  14. Sutruk

    Sutruk Top Contributor VIP

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    ....
    With all due respect, that's not a GoDaddy.com lander, that's an Afternic.com lander with the Godaddy logo.
    We are asking you for a https://godaddy.com lander, where the user lands at Godaddy.com and with one click can purchase a domain directly.
    A clean lander without 100 of domain alternatives, new gtlds, or any domain appraisal.
    In fact, a user that doesn't know about Afternic could be a bit concerned seeing the Godaddy Logo and the https://afternic.com url. Yes, he will see the Godaddy logo, but at a website that will not be Godaddy.com
     
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  15. Nikhil Jain

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    Can't agree enough with this @Joe Styler .
    Yet many of us here are of the opinion that these landers really need a BIN option and you'll surely see a surge in number of investors using them for parking their domains for sale.
     
  16. equity78

    equity78 Top Member TheDomains Staff TLDInvestors.com PRO VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    Exactly it's a complimentary relationship, anyone ignoring social media does so at their own peril.
     
  17. oldtimer

    oldtimer Do some good for humanity and the environment VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    It won't happen

    You are assuming that Godaddy wants to make it possible for you as a domainer to extract the most money for your domains, but in reality because of its size and popularity with the general public Godaddy's first obligation is towards the people at large who might be its current or potential future customers and wants to protect them from domainers shooting the moon so to speak on their domains hence the fact that it provides appraisals and other domain choices on the Landers in order to keep the unsuspecting end users from paying too much on a domain that might be considered to be just ordinary or average. This way there will be more capital left in the hands of end users which might spend it on Godaddy's services instead of being scooped up by domainers.

    IMO

    PS: I like both Godaddy and Epik but I am not affiliated with either one ( or any other registrar or registry for that matter).

    IMO
     
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  18. frank-germany

    frank-germany domainer since 2001 / musician VIP

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    ns3 /ns4
    never worked for my domains
    aka made no sales
    plus I have no traffic insight


    by the way
    you don't need to use
    ns3/ns4 to get that landing page

    redirecting to
    https://www.afternic.com/forsale/domain.com
    will do the same

    correct:
    you need to add
    ?traffic_id=daslnc
    to the string
    in order to display the GoDaddy Logo

    $afternicurl ="http://www.afternic.com/forsale/";
    $afternicurl .=$domain;
    $afternicurl .="?traffic_id=daslnc";
    header("Location: $afternicurl");


    when you have a BIN set
    this is the link:
    https://www.afternic.com/domain/pkws.com
     
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  19. valnames

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    This is really useful! Thank you!
     
  20. freety85

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    Not sure how this guy worked it around, but he managed to forward the GD registered name to a premium listing.

    Example domain:

    boostbusiness.com

    Nameservers are >

    ns57.domaincontrol.com
    ns58.domaincontrol.com

    If I try the same i got the following error message.

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    Any idea ? @frank-germany
     
  21. MapleDots

    MapleDots Top Contributor VIP

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    @chenzen below said it best
     
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  22. chenzen

    chenzen Established Member ★★★★★★★★★★

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    It's basically pretty simple. Shorten your listing url with a url shortener like bitly. Now forward the domain to the shortened url.
     
  23. Deven Patel

    Deven Patel Founder, Alter.com Blue Account

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    It's always interesting to learn about what these big companies are thinking. I've analyzed countless businesses over the years and one thing I realized was that things always look different from the outside. We generally don't have enough insider information to adequately predict the moves they'll make. I guess if we did we'd be making a killing in the stock market! :)

    Nevertheless, we can still try! So I pulled out some data from GoDaddy's public financials that compares revenues between their domain vs non-domain segments. See below.

    [​IMG]

    The profit chart on the bottom was extrapolated using a 35% margin for their domain segment and a 70% margin for their non-domain segment. Based on this data, it seems like GoDaddy may intentionally be trying not to innovate too much in domain related services.

    Domains don't generate as much profit as they used to for them compared to some of their newer segments like web hosting and business apps (the "non-domain" segment above). Also, some of the other recent moves they've made help validate this logic (i.e. hiring a CEO with broader digital expertise, targeting a broader audience, etc). If they're looking to expand into other more profitable segments than it wouldn't make too much sense to keep spending money on their less profitable products and services.
     

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