question TrumpPatriot.com deemed "offensive" at Sedo, cannot list. Ideas on where to list?

[markfromslo]

I have a domain name, TrumpPatriot.com. I'm not that interested in the name, but I want to list it. I can't at Afternic because they say it's a Trademark issue. Okay. So I listed it at Sedo, but just got an email that says the name is "got suspended from our services due to a potential violation of our policy regarding offensive domains."

Anyway, it is what it is, and I'm not going to create a big stink about it. However, I would like to list the name somewhere else. In the interest of time and not having to go through this with many registrars before successfully listing it, can I get a good recommendation for where to list without an issue?

Please, I hope no one hijacks this thread and turns it into either pro or con on Trump. It's a domain issue and a free speech issue.

EDITED TO REMOVE MY RANT ON FREE SPEECH TO KEEP THINGS ABOUT THE DOMAIN NAME.

 

[Yanosh]

If you didn’t want it to become a Trump Pro o Con thread , maybe you should have avoided the part where you said that here in Europe we got no free speech.

Beside that , you can try Efty

Have a nice day

 

[markfromslo]

If you didn’t want it to become a Trump Pro o Con thread , maybe you should have avoided the part where you said that here in Europe we got no free speech.

Beside that , you can try Efty

Have a nice day

Talk about free speech all you like. That would be great. That's not about Trump. I'm not even a Trump supporter. I am a supporter of neither candidate.

 

[markfromslo]

If you didn’t want it to become a Trump Pro o Con thread , maybe you should have avoided the part where you said that here in Europe we got no free speech.

Beside that , you can try Efty

Have a nice day

You can see my other comment, but I went ahead and removed my comments about free speech, as we don't even need to go down that road here. I'll try to keep it about listing the name.

 

[draco]

Have you asked them why it was rejected as offensive? I'd be really curious as to the answer.

I can see them rejecting it as a trademark issue. But offensive is really puzzling, and even a little disturbing.

Oddly enough, there are other Trump domains on both Sedo and Afternic, including toilettrump. trumpatriots is actually on Afternic.

I think the domain is probably more trouble than it's worth because of trademark issues.

 

[markfromslo]

Have you asked them why it was rejected as offensive? I'd be really curious as to the answer.

I can see them rejecting it as a trademark issue. But offensive is really puzzling, and even a little disturbing.

Oddly enough, there are other Trump domains on both Sedo and Afternic, including toilettrump. trumpatriots is actually on Afternic.

I think the domain is probably more trouble than it's worth because of trademark issues.

I did ask and will update when I hear back. But it was definitely offensive and not TM.

This is the Offensive Domain Policy from their site:

Offensive Domain Policy​

Version: February 2024

As a domain marketplace, Sedo does not wish to engage in selective censorship of domains people wish to buy and trade. However, Sedo is also a responsible global citizen and we have created a set of guidelines to determine whether the offensive nature of specific terms will be allowed placement in our domain database. Sedo reserves the right not to list domains that violate our Offensive Domain Policy.

Offensive Material​

Application of guidelines that have the potential of restricting free speech require careful judgment and consideration of a domain’s potential for substantial social, artistic or political value. Domain names that, in Sedo’s sole discretion, reference inappropriate content related to sensitive events, promote or praise hatred, violence, child pornography, racial or religious intolerance may not be listed for sale or parked with Sedo and will be removed once discovered by, or reported to Sedo without warning or notice to the domain owner. Users who continually attempt to list for sale or park domains in violation of this policy risk suspension or cancellation of their Sedo accounts. In addition, domains that promote organizations that endorse and/or encourage hatred, violence, child pornography, racial or religious intolerance may not be listed for sale or parked with Sedo. This includes, but is not limited to, domains promoting organizations such as the KKK, Nazis, neo-Nazis, or the Aryan nation.

General Domain Policies​

Domains that are submitted to Sedo, your parked domain webpages, and any linked websites may not contain, link to, promote, or distribute certain types of terms or content. User domains may not contain, link to, promote, or distribute any of the following (examples non-exhaustive):

• Violent content
• Content referencing inappropriate content or sensitive events such as natural disasters, war, tragedies, public health crises, or the victims of such events, including content promoting services that exploit, dismiss, or condone a sensitive event, and/or the use of keywords related to a sensitive event to attempt to drive additional traffic.
• Content referencing claims that victims of a sensitive event were responsible for their own tragedy or similar instances of victim blaming; claims that victims of a sensitive event are not deserving of remedy or support; or claims that victims from certain countries were responsible or deserving of a global public health crisis or other tragedy
• Content that threatens or advocates for harm on oneself or others
• Content that insults, harasses, intimidates or bullies an individual or group of individuals
• Content that incites hatred against, promotes discrimination of, or disparages an individual or group on the basis of their race or ethnic origin, religion, disability, age, nationality, veteran status, sexual orientation, gender, gender identity, or other characteristic that is associated with systemic discrimination or marginalization
• Excessive profanity
• Hacking/cracking content
• Software or other content that violates the Unwanted Software Policy
• Malware or adware
• Illegal Online gambling or illegal online casino-related content
• Illicit drugs and drug paraphernalia content
• Sales of beer or hard alcohol, unless permitted by Sedo
• Sale of tobacco or tobacco-related products
• Sale of prescription drugs
• Sale of weapons or ammunition (for example, firearms, firearm components, fighting knives)
• Sale of products that are replicas or imitations of designer goods
• Sale or distribution of coursework or student essays
• Content regarding programs which compensate users for clicking on ads or offers, performing searches, surfing websites, or reading emails
• Pages that automatically refresh including via Ajax, unless otherwise approved by Sedo
• Content protected by copyright or trademark law unless you have the necessary legal rights to display that content
• Any other content that is illegal, promotes illegal activity, or infringes on the legal rights of others
• Popup windows, popunder windows or exit windows that interfere with site navigation, obscure Sedo ads, change user preferences or browser settings, or enable or initiate downloads (unless approved by Sedo)
• Excessive, repetitive or irrelevant keywords; such keywords must also not appear in your web page templates
• Deceptive or manipulative content or construction intended to improve your site's search engine ranking, for example, your site's PageRank in Sedo's search index
• Incentives, including monetary and point-based incentives, to users to click links or ads
• References to tragedies or other sensitive current events
• Domain names or content involved in litigation or under dispute; domain names or content that violates any trademark (and related rights), copyright, trade secret, patent or other intellectual property right of any third party

The following additional requirements apply to adult domains:

• Domains that include adult or pornographic terms must be placed in an adult category while non-adult domains must be placed in non-adult categories.
• You are responsible for notifying Sedo immediately of any domains that you believe have been classified with the wrong adult status.

 

[Future Sensors]

The term "Trump" is probably a (too) hot potato for Sedo, much like all these domains related to COVID were at the time. They usually opt for the safe route.

 

[DomainGist]

I did ask and will update when I hear back. But it was definitely offensive and not TM.

It could actually be a TM issue though...

https://www.worldtrademarkreview.co...d-be-significant-hurdle-new-political-venture

 

[HotKey]

That is seriously retarded.

These people cater to a few displaced while ignoring a mass, logical perspective. Why not just open a portal for access to non-offensive material for those that feel inclined?

 

[markfromslo]

It could actually be a TM issue though...

https://www.worldtrademarkreview.co...d-be-significant-hurdle-new-political-venture

It's not. They said it is "offensive" specifically.

 

[markfromslo]

That is seriously retarded.

I asked if I could list HarrisPartriot.com. No reply yet.

 

[HotKey]

I asked if I could list HarrisPartriot.com. No reply yet.

edited my post, but exactly. I'm sure it would fly

 

[markfromslo]

edited my post, but exactly. I'm sure it would fly

By the way, in my reply I asked them to indicate what exactly is offensive: is it Trump or is it Patriot? That's sounds silly, but these days the word Patriot is offensive to some people. (I'm really trying to hold back, because I could so let loose on this subject)

Can't wait for their response if there is one.

 

[King]

Sedo is an old joke, put it on a lander here.

 

[HotKey]

By the way, in my reply I asked them to indicate what exactly is offensive: is it Trump or is it Patriot? That's sounds silly, but these days the word Patriot is offensive to some people. (I'm really trying to hold back, because I could so let loose on this subject)

Can't wait for their response if there is one.

Yeh there's a different thread for that but I get the sentiment

 

[Armageddon]

ATOM.com maybe even will approve as Premium
Somone have TrumpNow & is Premium

 

[rh2000]

That is strange. Try to list KamalaPatriot.com and see if they accept that.

 

[VadimK]

I have 2 similar domains, and yes, the answer is - your own lander, either with efty or dynadot (these two come to my mind first).

Sedo indeed is a joke in this sense here. It is a German company and they simply hate Trump - it's literally like this, there is no objective policy here. I can guarantee you at 120% that HarrisPatriot will go thru - no questions asked.

 

[ResoluteDomains]

I had a domain with the word Pandemic in it. I purchased it in 2009. About a month after the covid pandemic hit in 2020 they sent me an email that they delisted that domain. I asked why. They couldnt really say other than it was "insensitive". Its not even subjectively insensitive.

I explained to them that I was not taking advantage of the, then, global situation, and that I had the domain in my possession for 11 years AT SEDO WITH OFFERS.

So I pressed them for a reason and they sent me the same thing that they sent @markfromslo I laughed because I could search on any of those "reasons" and find several domains for each. I did that and I, responded with each, they still denied me. So I told them I was going to remove all of my domains. They didnt care, and that is fine. Their business to run inconsistently and unfairly if they choose to do so.

I checked for months after their decision and my portfolio removal and those same examples of violations were still listed. I have no idea if those examples still exist today, I havent been back in over 4 years.

So this doesnt surprise me at all. I fully agree that there needs to be some guidelines and rules but this example is insane as was my example 4+ years ago and probably many others.

Walk away, dont look back. NP Landers are amazing, BTW!

 

[markfromslo]

Just an update to say that Sedo has yet to address my question on why the name is offensive, after two emails sent to them.

It's really not a big deal because it's a couple low-quality names out of 6,000 good ones that are at Afternic (who won't take them ostensively due to the Trump TM). I just want to hear what they will say.

Well, anyway, I've learned I should not be burdened by what has been. . I put it on a Sav lander.

 

[Grego85]

Pretty sad Sedo, I know the company is bare bones, I think its just the gout ridden dude and some personal friends, cant really expect full professionalism from sub standard folks.

 

[DomainGist]

Pretty sad Sedo, I know the company is bare bones, I think its just the gout ridden dude and some personal friends, cant really expect full professionalism from sub standard folks.

They've got 150 employees with linkedin profiles, you appear to be completely wrong on this?

They completely dominate the DNJournal weekly sales lists.

 

[Grego85]

150? That is pretty bare bones, as I said. Also, I wouldn't recommend citing LinkedIn as a source Are there really people still lame enough to use and take LinkedIn seriously?

 

[markfromslo]

I received a reply today. It's a non-reply.

Thank you for contacting Sedo’s Rights Protection Program. We have reviewed our records regarding the domain trumppatriot.com and it appears the domain was flagged for Donald Trump and blocked as inappropriate for Sedo’s domain marketplace and parking program.

Please note that Sedo’s acceptable use policies do not necessarily prohibit the listing of domains containing names, domains that target famous individual people may be deemed inappropriate for Sedo’s services and will be blocked once flagged or upon complaint.

While we are sure you are disappointed with this decision, we hope you can appreciate the efforts Sedo takes to balance the rights of all parties in the administration of our public marketplace and hosting program.

If you have any further questions, just let us know.

 

[Andreas B.]

I have 2 similar domains, and yes, the answer is - your own lander, either with efty or dynadot (these two come to my mind first).

Sedo indeed is a joke in this sense here. It is a German company and they simply hate Trump - it's literally like this, there is no objective policy here. I can guarantee you at 120% that HarrisPatriot will go thru - no questions asked.

SEDO moved to the US, I think they have their headquarter there (not?),
next to the subsidiary in Cologne...

could be wrong.

However, its truly striking that there are so many political opinions / presumptions / prejudgements in the domaining world.