.tv Geo .TV is stronger than ever

[localexperts]

I have gotten alot of information today. All positive. I think Geo .TV is in the best shape in my two years in this space. Domainer to Domainer Sales volume has declined, but prices have held steady in bad economic times. You also see more end user interest (aka Louisville.TV and Augusta.TV)

I think Geo .TV is poised for continual growth and appreciation as the world economic climate turns around and DOT TV adoption increases.

 

[garptrader]

Local-I hold several smaller city geos and a few regional geo domains (ResearchTriangle, Carolinas, AmericaLatina, Americas). At this point I'm in no rush to sell as they are normal renewals but I haven't seen offers on any of my geos. Perhaps the response will be that they are not high-profile like Miami, Atlanta, NewYork, Orlando, Paris but I'm curious as to any detail you can share regarding behind the scenes action with GEO .TV domains. And how far down the chain does this demand extend?

 

[equity78]

I mean this with no disrespect because you and I are friends but do you have anything more than that ? This is the kind of thread that just is here to feed the naysayers, I mean you stated something with nothing behind it. Markets are not determined because someone will not sell for less than xxx,xxx. If people in a town did not want to accept the real estate downturn and said we will not sell for less than $400,000 when the average home in their area was selling for $270,000, that does not mean the area is doing well, it means they are dreaming.

IMO you need liquidity to discuss the health of a market, and most domain niches do not have liquidity so things are just a function of one persons success versus another persons laziness. I mean if one person sells a Geo.tv for $50,000 does not mean all who own Geo.tv should jump for joy, unless there is a liquid market with many transactions weekly. Again IMO

I hope everyone does well in whatever extension and I certainly would like to see .tv owners do well, but I see this as I always have, an individual thing, this is not like the stock market where if one software company gets upgraded the whole sector gets a boost in stock price. RT.tv selling for $62,500 did nothing for someone owning YT.tv again IMO

 

[stutter]

The world climate is not turning around, its about to take another bigger nosedive within the next 12 months. Get ready for 2 - 5 years of uncertainty. Its planned that way. Blame the Fed. Governments bust "big business" by wrecking the economy to buy those businesses.. To a lesser extent they do that to "their people" also... But hey, American Idol will be back on air soon and everything will be ok. ( :

Louisville.TV and Augusta.TV look like parking pages to me and are without any kind of quality development.

Although, I do agree that there is more internet / .com, .tv investors buying at the moment. I have sold 7 .tv / .com in the last 5 weeks. Smaller investments make sense to many at the moment in these times.. This is online real estate with small price / overheads / risk, unlike the other "uncertain type" of real estate.

Good Luck with your Geos, do you have any I could take a look at with quality TV / video / interactive / social network type development? I would like some ideas for my upcoming sites.

thanks.

 

[equity78]

The world climate is not turning around, its about to take another bigger nosedive within the next 12 months. Get ready for 2 - 5 years of uncertainty. Its planned that way. Blame the Fed. Governments bust "big business" by wrecking the economy to buy those businesses.. To a lesser extent they do that to "their people" also... But hey, American Idol will be back on air soon and everything will be ok. ( :

You left out the In your opinion part, I am sure you have no greater insight into the future than Local Experts.

 

[localexperts]

Louisville.TV and Augusta.TV look like parking pages to me and are without any kind of quality development..

Augusta.tv was recently acquired by the Augusta Newspaper and Louisville.TV was recently acquired by Louisville.com. I've gotten a special peek at Louisville.com. It looks nice.

As for the other comment, yea there are sales occuring in private. I have participated in a two sales. Another asked my opinion before selling.

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I mean this with no disrespect because you and I are friends but do you have anything more than that ? This is the kind of thread that just is here to feed the naysayers,

Got to turn on the lights to see the rats scurry.


Here is the thing, two years ago GEO DOT TV values were less than they are today.

HENCE, my hypothesis - backed my examples (that you and I know about) say that Geo DOT TV is stronger today than 2007 or 2008.

Raleigh.TV - $500
VirginiaBeach.TV - $500
Wichita.TV - $600
StLouis.TV - $2,000
and I can go on.

FIN - you've been actively trying to acquire geos. Any luck throwing around $500 to $1000 offers like I did in early 2007

Answer nope

So I repeat "Geo .TV is stronger than ever"

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Local-I hold several smaller city geos and a few regional geo domains (ResearchTriangle, Carolinas, AmericaLatina, Americas). At this point I'm in no rush to sell as they are normal renewals but I haven't seen offers on any of my geos. Perhaps the response will be that they are not high-profile like Miami, Atlanta, NewYork, Orlando, Paris but I'm curious as to any detail you can share regarding behind the scenes action with GEO .TV domains. And how far down the chain does this demand extend?

Well Fin has posted that he wants US city dot tv. For a top 30 US Geo DOT TV - the sale ranges will be $10,000 to $25,000.

 

[cityforums.com]

Would you all say that when .tube or .vid comes out ... .TV will still be the preferred extension ?

 

[localexperts]

Yep. I see little threat from a four character extension and an abbreviation no one using. We bought a new TV on the weekend and my wife went out to get a video. She used TV to describe the Television, she didn't VID to say she was going out to the Video Store.

 

[cityforums.com]

Yep. I see little threat from a four character extension and an abbreviation no one using. We bought a new TV on the weekend and my wife went out to get a video. She used TV to describe the Television, she didn't VID to say she was going out to the Video Store.

You may be aware that the value of an asset is dependent on the owner of the asset.

.TV is a prefect case of what happens to a good asset in the wrong hands.

What if Godaddy gets .tube ?

Do you really think it would take them long to surpass the success of .TV as an extension ?

 

[localexperts]

You may be aware that the value of an asset is dependent on the owner of the asset.

.TV is a prefect case of what happens to a good asset in the wrong hands.

What if Godaddy gets .tube ?

Do you really think it would take them long to surpass the success of .TV as an extension ?

I don't even worry about the Geo DOT COM owners. Why would I worry any other extension.

The value of development is in the business model, the management, the concept - a great domain is a nice to have but only the icing on the cake - not mandatory for success.

I don't see TNT.TV replacing it with TNT.Tube. Same with Nebraska.TV. Macon.TV, HamptonRoads.TV, and many more.

Who cares about GoDaddy. Without End User Demand, as this auction proves, alt extensions can only go so far. Unless Bob Parsons is going to pay $25,000 for a domain like Houston.tube or Houston.vid - I don't see GoDaddy helping either extension beyond getting them regged for $30

 

[snoop]

The thread reminds me a bit of this,

YouTube - John McCain NAILS IT !! Fundamentals of Economy STRONG !!

Always a worry when people feel the need to try and convince others that things are fine.

 

[localexperts]

Not anymore than a person who goes around repeating the same thing over and over.

I still don't see any data that says geo dot tv is worse today than it was two years ago.

Only opinions.

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Always a worry when people feel the need to try and convince others that things are fine.

Always worries me when people who haven't done anything think they know something.

I said Geo DOT TV is stronger today that it has ever been. Based on current sales and values - that is true.

If you respond, at least provide some data to back up your assertion.

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YouTube - John McCain NAILS IT !! Fundamentals of Economy STRONG !!.

Unlike John McCain, who was not an expert on the economy, I have 10 years of internet experience. I was probably working for a DOT COM before most knew there was a DOT COM.

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MORE DATA
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GEO DOT TV Domains - Uniques/Month (DU Data Unavailable)

Nebraska.TV - 23,951 (ABC affiliate)
Oztralia.TV - 18,876
RawVegas.TV - 9,653
HamptonRoads.TV - 9,008 (Landmark Communications)
Boston.TV - 4,891
Iran.TV - 4,386
OceanCity.TV - 2,910
Hollywood.TV - 2,292
Sedona.TV - 2,129
Macon.TV - 2,013
Montreal.TV - 1,998
ParkCity.TV - 1,563
Bollywood.TV - 1,375
AbsoluteBrighton.TV - 1,195 (Nice.)
Tulsa.TV - 1,190
702.TV - 798 (Greenspun Media, owners of Vegas.com / LasVegas.com
and... "Las.TV".)
WesternAustralia.TV - 751
PacificNetwork.TV - D/U
VisitSedona.TV - D/U
Vanuatu.TV - D/U
Spokane.TV - D/U
AtlanticCity.TV - D/U
InRich.TV - D/U
PalmBeach.TV - D/U
Brisbane.TV - D/U
Toronto.TV - D/U
Nederland.TV - D/U
UsaPolitics.TV - D/U (Lin TV)
MySouthAfrica.TV - D/U (Turner)

- data provided by Niko Younts

 

[james0306]

Would you all say that when .tube or .vid comes out ... .TV will still be the preferred extension ?

Let me say in the way. For example, in China, 99% of people don't know what's "vid" and "tube"; but 99% of chinese knows what's "TV", does it explain your concern ?

 

[treebytheriver]

"Tube" is so 1990. Hello people. Time to wake up and smell the coffee.

 

[DnEbook]

i think channel and .tv go together as a great branding tool

 

[GoneWalkabout]

Always a worry when people feel the need to try and convince others that things are fine.

True - but far worse in my opinion is when people try and persuade people that everything is bad (and we should all head for the hills) when there is no logical reason for this to be the case.

Of course, with many of the negative people here - you have to ask - why are they going to so much effort to persuade people to sell up....

Kind of reminds me of another video. One that shows what happens when you look at negative people long enough...

YouTube - Negative Optical Illusion Trick

 

[cityforums.com]

snoop ... the fundamentals of higher .TV premiums are strong ? lol
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Is anybody thinking outside the .TV ?

Google will come out with .google

for the relative equivalent of what is a fraction of a penny to you and me they can have .tube

which will solidfy their brand ...

Can you really honestly pretend that .TV with their wonderful premium policy is a safe investment ?

 

[localexperts]

I think outside .tv. I have many .com and .nets.

So new extensions come out, other extensions have been launched. If I have 10 years of investment in my launched dot com, the new extension means nothing. If you develop your dot tv and have 2-3 years of investment, same thing

LAUNCHING a new extensions means nothing, until people develop on that extension.

THAT is what makes an extension a powerhouse, NOT domainers, NOT regs, DEVELOPMENT and in particular DEVELOPMENT that leads to category killer brands.

As DOT TV has shown me, with the number of older television stations that have stuck with their time tested DOT COM and the number of new television station (particular MyNetwork, CW) that have adopted DOT TV.

Once you develop in an extension and spend thousands or millions, you are not going to change domains on whim (if ever)

If you DEVELOP your DOT TVS, then your brand and your investment is SAFE

If you are a DOT TV domainer, then your destiny lies with brand managers and people who are developing their DOT TVs.

For me, DOT TV is as safe an investment as DOT COM.

 

[snoop]

everything is bad (and we should all head for the hills) when there is no logical reason for this to be the case.

The reason is that the vast majority of people have lost money on premium .tv names, and that has been the case for as long as I can remember. If you are making money then no reason to listen to me, I'm speaking to those who despite being in an overall losing position continue to to throw money at this extension.

 

[localexperts]

if you are making money then no reason to listen to me.

poty

if people aren't making money, they shouldn't listen either - b/c they should have the common sense to get out