.mobi First tap LLL should worth more than NNN, no?

[wensheng]

when we are in a mobile web brower(opera mini or whatever builtin), the default input mode is letter, not number.

To enter number you have to press more times, like 2 for example, you have to press 'a' 4 times. So amt.mobi only take 3 key tap, 268.mobi requires 12 (I know You can switch input mode, but it's small hassle)

So I think LLL especially first tap L (press 1 time) should worth more than NNN.

What's you opinion?
What's default input mode on your phone browser?

Note wishful thinking here is manufacture program .mobi to be default in the near future. Also I am talking about regular key pad, not expanded full key pad.

 

[space101]

You have a good point, but the reason why ppl are asking more for NNN is because their are only 900 that were available to the public. They were gone in the first 15 mins of landrush and they have the potential of being really valuable, just from the simple fact of scarcity.

 

[wensheng]

You have a good point, but the reason why ppl are asking more for NNN is because their are only 900 that were available to the public. They were gone in the first 15 mins of landrush and they have the potential of being really valuable, just from the simple fact of scarcity.

but first tap LLL are even scarcer, you can only have 'a d g j m p t w', that's 8*8*8=512, the ones without same adjacent letters(means you don't have to pause between presses) is even less, 362.

 

[accent]

You have a good point, but the reason why ppl are asking more for NNN is because their are only 900 that were available to the public. They were gone in the first 15 mins of landrush and they have the potential of being really valuable, just from the simple fact of scarcity.

There are only 676 L-L.mobi, yet they still are available for reg fee (diminishing). Scarcity is not the only factor. There is a complex relationship between numbers and meaning in China driving some of it but I really do not understand NNN names.

 

[yanni]

There are only 676 L-L.mobi, yet they still are available for reg fee (diminishing).

Someone mentioned on another thread that these are gone as well.

 

[wensheng]

There are only 676 L-L.mobi, yet they still are available for reg fee (diminishing). Scarcity is not the only factor. There is a complex relationship between numbers and meaning in China driving some of it but I really do not understand NNN names.

yeah, I can understand china side of story, because I'm chinese myself. I can shine some light on this:
chinese love numbers (except the number 4)

In china, one of 3 biggest portals is 163.com(aka netease).
Chinese take a number and use it for say a lot of different things(mostly good things), examples:
1 - you, want, will
5 - I
6 - fortune
8 - make (big) money, be rich
9 - lasting
so 518 literally means 'I will be rich'
(4 means death, no chinese want to see it anywhere)

So yeah, I can understand part of frenzy about NNN now.

L-L and N-N just make zero sense IMHO.

 

[yanni]

L-L and N-N just make zero sense IMHO.

Why?

According to the Chinese number explanation you mentioned:

1-8.mobi = you make money
1-6.mobi = want fortune?
5-8.mobi = I make money
1-4.mobi = you're dead!

The dash is for a "pause" to add weight to your statement.

j/k

 

[wensheng]

Why?

According to the Chinese number explanation you mentioned:

1-8.mobi = you make money
1-6.mobi = want fortune?
5-8.mobi = I make money
1-4.mobi = you're dead!

The dash is for a "pause" to add weight to your statement.

j/k

nono, hyphen breaks things apart, it breaks the flow.

Now, seriously, There're very few a .com name with hyphens that sell good price.
http://www.dnjournal.com/archive/domainsales/2006/Q2-expanded.htm (8)
http://www.dnjournal.com/archive/domainsales/2005-expanded-ytd.htm (10)
http://www.dnjournal.com/archive/domainsales/2004-expanded-ytd.htm (1)

How many well known companies use hyphen in their domain name?

Also it's hard to enter, more so on phone keypad than on key board.

 

[accent]

According to 3character.com a L-L.com with the worst letters goes for $950, a N-N for $400, while a LLL.com is $2950 and a NNN.com is $4900. So you are correct about the hyphen damaging the value of N-N domains. Still, $400 is not shabby.

But back to three tap .MOBIs. (Is three tap what we are going to call them? For some reason I do not like the term... ) There were no three tap - or all premium letter - .MOBIs left when I started looking at them (Oct. 14) , yet four taps names were available until the buy out, and they were some of the best names that were left - so most people were not paying attention to four taps. Jeremy, our resident Mobi Mogul, is paying little attention to taps (or length) and I believe he explained that he expected qwerty and voice to make taps irrelevant.

I think the size issue (and the noise / privacy issue for voice) will keep numeric keypads in use for (guess) 20% - 40% of the market, which would give low-tap names a lot of additional value IMO.

 

[wensheng]

Jeremy, our resident Mobi Mogul, is paying little attention to taps (or length) and I believe he explained that he expected qwerty and voice to make taps irrelevant.

I don't think so.

There's inherent conflict between phone size and qwerty keyboard. People prefer small phone. It's hard to continue cram a full keyboard into smaller and smaller phone.

If you are no business person and don't use email on the go, ask youself, do you really like to punch those tiny buttons.

You can argue you can use a stylus (or pen), but then you still don't need a keyboard because phone can display a virtual keyboard on screen.

let's not forget the foremost function of a cellphone is to make call, you only need keypad to make calls.

I see keypad phone dominate for the forseeable future.

one more reason you don't need a keyboard on cellphone

Oh, about voice recognition, they have been doing research for 50 years, it's just not working.
It will work if you speak BBC or CNN english. If you from Fargo

In china, there are lots of dialect with different accents, the combination is endless, a pronunciation in one dialect means totally different thing in an other. It's not going to happen (in 20 years anyway)

 

[accent]

It should be possible to set up voice recognition for each user - when you buy the phone you would be shown a list of words and asked to pronounce them into the phone. The phone would then know your accent, voice tones and speech conventions. I have no idea if they are working on this method now (if I am the first to think of it I want a commission, guys), but that would solve the regional and individual issues. The size of the keypad - virtual or physical - will remain a problem and as for voice -- people are running out of restarurants to take telephone calls now -- there are many places that you cannot use voice, and privacy is also important.

So I think taps will be important. And mobile internet will have very different usage patterns than what we see now, or can predict. This is an advantage of LLL.mobis, whatever usage patterns develop, acronyms will be in demand.