.mobi Can .mobi domains be worth more than .com domains in the future? (Not businesses)

[satsdifference.com]

Can .mobi domains be worth more than .com domains in the future (Not businesses)?

With 3-4 mobile devices to pc desktops currently (and rising?),
does that mean 3-4 times more traffic globally some day in the future is possible?

China, the second largest Dot Mobi registerer that has 1 of 5 human beings on Earth, has ".com.cn".. do you think it sounds fair to them to use ".com" for their mobile internet revolution?

Remember, I am not talking about in terms of established businesses.. I am talking about domaining.. Internet Real Estate.. generic.com vs generic.mobi.. as the day is arriving when the world uses mobile internet like it uses toilet paper..



Kind Regards,

Yelo

 

[Sam]

Are you joking me? Generic .COM will ALWAYS be worth more .mobi. I can personally guarantee it. Again, it DOES NOT matter if 3/4 of internet traffic is mobile, because phone manafacturers will NEVER, EVER change the default extention from .com to .mobi. Trying to fit in .mobi with the mobile revolution will not work. Oh for those who claim all the big companies "support" .mobi, please go do yourself a favor and go to http://www dot ******** Dot com, a big SCAM site that claimed it had huge corporate sponsors too.

I would love for your .mobiers to go and email every big company that mr Pinky brand claims to "support" .mobi. Equity Investments anyone?!?! Actually, I shall go email support for all these big companies and inquire to such claims and post on this forum.

 

[thinking1]

I think it's possible that they could be worth an equal amount. It's really all up in the air but pay per call could revolutionize the scene. Just as in iTravel.mobi you can easily click on a link that calls a number on your phone. When actually speaking with someone on the phone you are much more likely to sign up and use a service (people are easily persuaded) rather than just clicking on a link and having text appear that says "book your vacation now."

When you put a human aspect into it then pay per call could be huge. It's really way too early in the game to tell just how far mobi will go and if it could even go past .com.

 

[nombre]

When you put a human aspect into it then pay per call could be huge. It's really way too early in the game to tell just how far mobi will go and if it could even go past .com.

i agree with thinking that it's too early but the potential is certainly there

if we start to see faster, more useful phones and mobile devices and _if_ mobi gathers enough momentum, it's definitely possible that mobi could become the most valuable domain tld around

i think we will see several phone companies defaulting to mobi and this will drive the value of the domain

remember there is no competition with mobi in the sense that there are no competing mobile domains

my guess is that it will end up being a mix of all tlds mainly because there are simply not enough good mobi domains to go around

mobi is the 1 domain that the whole world shares

 

[scandiman]

I'm very much a mobi enthusiast but to even have this type of conversation regarding a 5 month old tld is honestly ridiculous. Revisit this in about 5 years and we will see where things are at.

 

[satsdifference.com]

This is why..

What's first isn't always gonna be the best? Who thought someone would break Babe Ruth or Roger Maris or Mark Mcgwire's homerun record?

Yes, I will take the leadership and take one for the team to be the first to bring this point up here.. I know many of us, on both sides of the fence, have wondered about this possibility; either consciously or unconsciously..

I am not trying to be a jerk here..

There are several reasons why I am starting this thread:

1.) Communication - Been kinda slow here lately.. love to learn from good points (see nombre's).. $$$... Let us all deal with our emotions, and communicate better since we are all here for a reason..

2.) Let's move beyond the "we have to wait 5 years to see" (of course! ) argument.. Fear of more wounds incurred from the bashers?.. because the treasure chest is still open for less than $10.. we can speculate and ascertain the trends.. because as domainers, we have to buy/reserve the name TODAY for tomorrow.. waiting for tomorrow may be too late.. waiting for tomorrow (google.mobi?) may cost us..

3.) I have many extensions.. should we be selling off .com's to buy Dot Mobis? New registrations and aftermarket!

4.) How much should we really be considering aftermarket? Those of use who have money, if we missed the landrush or not..

5.) Finally, "Should we hold?". I mean I am selling JapaneseFood.mobi for $12,200 on ebay and sometimes I wonder if that's plain stupid! Because, if generic .mobi comes close or even eclipses JapaneseFood.com's traffic then why should I "sell out" today to be set for a lifetime? All of us need to consider this more.. holding.. as we are tempted to sell our best .mobis and then later wonder why we didn't hold them (lots of 90's .commers say that today)

My point: Bringing this thread and issue up helps all of us more.. go faster..

I would love to hear more great points made like some of the ones above.. which I never thought about..

I apoligize in advance if I am offending anyone, this is meant to help us talk about things that affect our minds that we are not learning enough from one another about or bringing up..

Let's all take advantage more of the blessing we have been given with the insight we have on knowing about Dot Mobi already, compared to the rest of the world..

:talk:


Kind Regards,

Yelo

 

[circa1850]

Can .mobi domains be worth more than .com domains in the future

yup

 

[buckshotdots]

Thowing in G4 technology into the mix makes .mobi look very good for investing. I'm def building my .mobi collection but for now .com is my main concern.

Intersting post...

gary-

 

[robertjr]

Not a chance!

You can be quite sure that it will not be long(if not already in progress) before ALL the .com sites will "auto detect" a users device and then redirect to the site with the proper architecture.












How about them apples?

 

[circa1850]

redirect to the site with the proper architecture.

If I understand your implication correctly, so if someone enters a .mobi domain name, it will be redirected to the .com site but with a mobi compliant page?

 

[robertjr]

No, more like the user will be redirected to domain.com or mobi.domain.com based to the users device.

 

[nombre]

No, more like the user will be redirected to domain.com or mobi.domain.com based to the users device.

as has been discussed many times before, this capability has been around for a long time, but it doesn't work especially well due to to the complexity of different interacting technologies

mobi was created specifically because of this fact in order to create some form of standardization which will be a common starting point for the "mobile internet"

if re-directs to dot coms were working well, mobi would not have been created

for those who call it a money grab, well, i think that nokia, google, microsoft, vodafone and samsung have their eyes on bigger revenue sources than selling mobi domains

 

[mejcdj]

Not a chance!

You can be quite sure that it will not be long(if not already in progress) before ALL the .com sites will "auto detect" a users device and then redirect to the site with the proper architecture.

Do you think that the millions of .com sites will create a site with the "proper architecture" to redirect to? That is the ONLY way a 'detect' will be functional for the entire (fixed and mobile) web.

That was considered and is why .mobi is now here. The problem is, that most sites wont bother with it, so the detect won't work.

As a consumer, I would rather use a .mobi that I am sure will resove and show properly in my phone, rahter than take a shot at several .coms that may or may not resove properly. That is the whole idea.

Something to think about .. .mobi is in the position to have that redirect to detect a PC. So, in reality, .mobi is in the best position to become more powerful as an ext. .mobi can provide mobile and PC sites rather easily.

I think all links should be .mobi for the mobile web. Otherwise it takes from the user experience if a user is directed to a .com that won't show properly. If we only use .mobi, there will always be a favorable experience, and the mobile web will flourish.

JMO

 

[satsdifference.com]

confusing role

No, more like the user will be redirected to domain.com or mobi.domain.com based to the users device.

What if I don't want to be automatically redirected?

What if I want to see the full version/information .com site on my PDA? (with scrollbars; thus, it seems better suited that the device detect and redirect run on the .mobi for all devices.. to preserve the .com sites "on the go" in full across the globe)

The clock is ticking.. and the role of .com brand (wap.domain.com/mobile) with mobile seems rather confusing at the moment..




Kind Regards,

Yelo

 

[space101]

All very insightfull comments, but only time will tell......

 

[hawkeye]

To me, all these people's statements of - 'no way! - dot com forever', or 'phone screens will make mobi unneccessary', or 'sites will detect your device/browser and adjust accordingly' etc. etc., are coming from either big .com holders, or tech heads, that are not looking at the real big picture and what will be one of the biggest reasons why .mobi will succeed - 'Targeted Advertising'! It will be big!! Rest assured, the mobile audience is going to be a whole new pool to advertise to, more directly, and more efficiently. When one goes to a .com, .net, .whatever site now, advertisements, adsense etc. is geared toward that site content, or just general advertising. There is no way to tell where the viewer is coming from, and what would be the most efficient ads towards them. Though adsense will detect content, and address ads accordingly, it can put wrong ads on sites that have similiar wordings and different meanings. With .mobi, advertisers can rest assured that 99% of viewers will be on a mobile type of device, and more than likely mobile at the time, and the ads will be more relevent to that viewer's anticipated interests at the time. 'Targeted advertising' will be a big thing for mobile devices, and .mobi sites will be a big propeller of this form of advertising. IMHO.

 

[goodkarmaco]

wORLD rADIO

Your questions are perfect for considering at this stage of evolving for .mobi.

Thanks for posting them. Your sale on Ebay is a very good one and I would do the same thing. The reason? To grab some quick cash. To not hold out of course is because of the uncertainty of .mobis future plus the fact you can take the thousands earned from the sale and invest in more .mobi domains.

 

[cramer]

Aside from the main issue of this thread, here are two other factors:
1. Many really good and valuable .com domains are parked and will be for a long time. The owners of some portfolios that are parked have stated that none of their names are for sale. They do very well overall with the names parked, and even though it might make sense to develop them...it is a big undertaking to develop a large number of names. So even though a .com could probably be valuable, especially if developed....if the mobi version is well developed, indexed and optimized, and starts to develop traffic....the .com may be at a disadvantage if development of it is started at a much later date then the mobi development. So there could be a number of scenarios, but one is that a buyer might possibly pay a big price for the mobi....because the .com is not (and will not be) available.
2. I come across .com domains that are in use, but you could argue that it is not the best use... Often the name is the name of a business such as a web developer. They have been in business for years, and years ago they got a good domain...and that is their business name. Today they could sell that domain for a pretty penny, but the problem is that it is the name of their business. So it doesnt come on the market. If you have a situation like that, I would think it would make the mobi version more valuable. I think there are many cases like this. In fact, sometimes I think that we miss some basic aspects of due diligence when we are considering buying or selling a mobi....like simply failing to check how the .com is being used.

 

[robertjr]

Do you think that the millions of .com sites will create a site with the "proper architecture" to redirect to?.

Yes, if the need is there. It's not like it would require any more effort to produce mobi.domain.com or domain.com/mobi than domain.mobi.

From an example provided in a earlier discussion. Notice the .com does not even redirect to the .mobi.
http://www.statefarm.com/
http://www.statefarm.com/mobile/index.asp
http://www.statefarm.mobi/

That was considered and is why .mobi is now here.

Hardly the case, .mobi is here because the money and the backing was there to make it happen.

What if I don't want to be automatically redirected?

What if I want to see the full version/information .com site on my PDA? (Thus, it seems better suited that the device detect and redirect run on the .mobi for all devices..)

I agree, I use a Treo 700P and find .mobi sites rather lacking and would much rather be on the full version. As for the device managing the process, you have a nice point and it will likely be a combination. But, doesn't make my point even more valid? It could simply be that if a mobile device is detected your asked via a "pop up" how you want to be directed. I think Google is doing something like that with Gmail access.

big .com holders, or tech heads, that are not looking at the real big picture

The only thing they have in mind is the big picture. Do you really think the big boys are going to allow something a simple as access reduce their profits?

There is no way to tell where the viewer is coming from, and what would be the most efficient ads towards them.

Can you say GEO Targeting? I hope so, because it's being done to you right now as you read this thread.

BTW-
How many have tried to perform the same searches with their PC and moble device? I think you will find the results interesting and in line what I have said.

 

[Pred]

Aside from the main issue of this thread, here are two other factors:
1. Many really good and valuable .com domains are parked and will be for a long time. The owners of some portfolios that are parked have stated that none of their names are for sale. They do very well overall with the names parked, and even though it might make sense to develop them...it is a big undertaking to develop a large number of names. So even though a .com could probably be valuable, especially if developed....if the mobi version is well developed, indexed and optimized, and starts to develop traffic....the .com may be at a disadvantage if development of it is started at a much later date then the mobi development. So there could be a number of scenarios, but one is that a buyer might possibly pay a big price for the mobi....because the .com is not (and will not be) available.
2. I come across .com domains that are in use, but you could argue that it is not the best use... Often the name is the name of a business such as a web developer. They have been in business for years, and years ago they got a good domain...and that is their business name. Today they could sell that domain for a pretty penny, but the problem is that it is the name of their business. So it doesnt come on the market. If you have a situation like that, I would think it would make the mobi version more valuable. I think there are many cases like this. In fact, sometimes I think that we miss some basic aspects of due diligence when we are considering buying or selling a mobi....like simply failing to check how the .com is being used.

Excellent post. My sentiments exactly.
It is because how the com is being used or not being used that influences the pricing on some mobis for me.
You make two excellent points of many.
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