Expected future of 4LLLL .com domains.

[omerlevinson]

I see the market and it seems that prices go down. What do you think the future of these domains?

 

[BionicMan]

Buy on the fear, sell on the cheer.

 

[BionicMan]

They are high because they are traded like a commodity in relation to chips which are running maybe $1400 on average now. Since there is a finite number of 460,000 or so, and 160,000 chips, they trade them on scarcity.

It is a crapshoot really, I see a listing here on the forum that has been up for 4 days, at a BIN of $195, lots of V, but no takers. It is almost like playing hot potato, until you have a better name to play.

Many of the names I have held for years, without any traffic, or inquiries, I have sold, it is not hard to work thru the letters, and figure out not much can be made of most.

But each domain is different, and you have to figure it out for yourself.

True but eventually, in liquidity, even a,e,i,o,u, and v's sell. Heck even many fours.

 

[prokol]

It seems it is going up now again...

 

[creataweb]

It seems it is going up now again...

Where at? I've seen floor at $200 this week. Some gems going cheap as well.

 

[Willrad]

VRLL.com and LLVR.com seem to be the only 4L's that are trading at any descent numbers right now. Even Chips are down. I have had some pitiful offers for solid 4L's that a month or so ago would have seen high $xxx. The problem is that floor prices are so cheap now with some going into the $190's that hardly anyone is selling. Anyone noticed the sharp drop in 4L.com's posted for sale even on Np over the last week or so? Lead up to Chinese New Year maybe? Dunno but right now I think the 4L market is hitting rock bottom and may decline further before it bounces back over the next few months. Remember it's also how we as resellers react that helps determain when prices will raise. If we get nervous and stop buying out of fear that we won't be able to flip for a descent profit prices will rebound slower. At the same time if we offer each other ridiculous amounts for descent names then sales won't happen and nothing will move fast either.

Just my thoughts here...

 

[creataweb]

4Ls down, look around and see.

 

[zurc.net]

Value plateau'd over past couple weeks and now... declining, imho...

 

[forge]

I sense collusion to help drive down prices. Worthless b.s. and hearsay without real examples to back it up. I checked shortnames.com last night and see no substantial change over the past few weeks.

The burden of proof is on the naysayers.

By the way, one or two members selling crap random 4L at +/- $200 does not reflect the aftermarket.

 

[creataweb]

I sense collusion to help drive down prices. Worthless b.s. and hearsay without real examples to back it up. I checked shortnames.com last night and see no substantial change over the past few weeks.

The burden of proof is on the naysayers.

By the way, one or two members selling crap random 4L for +/- $200 does not reflect the aftermarket.

Check marketplaces. ebay, nj, gd.... tell me what you see.

 

[creataweb]

Also, do you think 4L chips are still rising? Show me where. Prove me wrong.

 

[BlueprintMedia]

If you check recent sales of all 4 letter domains (non Premiums) they have all declined by $100 dollars in the last 2 months in the "reseller" market.
Yes, if you are lucky to have cvcv's maybe the value is holding, but those have also taken a hit.
Even the Chinese 4Letter.com's have taken a beat down and have declined by $800.
Say it ain't so? Chiese premiums were $2,000 few months ago. Now?
A good friend of mine that is a top domainer said to me "sell all your 4 letter domains while you can".
This is why I'm selling all of my 4 letter dot com domains. Time will tell... But history does not lie.

 

[forge]

Also, do you think 4L chips are still rising? Show me where. Prove me wrong.

No, they're not rising. And I never said they were, man! But they are holding fairly steady.

By the way, eBay is no measure either. A few weeks ago I saw a chip sell for around $900 while the overall floor was about $1200.

 

[creataweb]

No, they're not rising. And I never said they were, man! But they are holding fairly steady.

By the way, eBay is no measure either. A few weeks ago I saw a chip sell for around $900 while the overall floor was about $1200.

I don't think they're holding steady tbh.

 

[Willrad]

I sense collusion to help drive down prices. Worthless b.s. and hearsay without real examples to back it up. I checked shortnames.com last night and see no substantial change over the past few weeks.

The burden of proof is on the naysayers.

By the way, one or two members selling crap random 4L at +/- $200 does not reflect the aftermarket.

Not sure that a few domainers having a discussion on the decline of prices would constitute 'collusion' to drive down prices....

 

[forge]

You guys seem to be talking about non or anti-premiums here. These type names have been way overvalued following Chip2.0 and probably we are seeing a much needed market correction.

Realistically, there are no end users for these names. They are domainer tokens or baseball cards being tossed back and forth and all around. Bound to be a LOSING game.

 

[BlueprintMedia]

No, they're not rising. And I never said they were, man! But they are holding fairly steady.

By the way, eBay is no measure either. A few weeks ago I saw a chip sell for around $900 while the overall floor was about $1200.

Holding steady? From what? The jump of the cliff?

 

[zurc.net]

Yeah. That was a strong word. Obviously it's all opinion and speculation, but I am in the business to make money, not gamble. So I will stick to single and two word generics to be safe. The llll market has always been pretty weak with its rollercoaster values.

 

[creataweb]

Not sure that a few domainers having a discussion on the decline of prices would constitute 'collusion' to drive down prices....

Lol I know right, no one cares what I say. I prefer that.

 

[forge]

Not sure that a few domainers having a discussion on the decline of prices would constitute 'collusion' to drive down prices....

There's been a lot of chatter on NP chat of 4L "doom and gloom", maybe some of it tongue in cheek, but it sure isn't constructive and I find it at least mildly suspicious.

 

[zurc.net]

Forge, what happened to your avatar? I can't recognize you.