Brandbucket might try to muffle up data?

[Dnbolt]

Brandbucket might try to muffle up data?


My prediction: Brandbucket thinks removing sold domain ribbon would prevent Brandbucket watchdogs from knowing which domains actually sold.


Example:

Previous:

Current:

What is your prediction?

a.) It Just a temporary change for the time being

b.) The change is put in place as a measure to make it less clear on what domains actually sold

c.) It’s just a bug

d.) Change is put in place to make customers think the name is still available and after making an inquiry brandbucket will suggest an alternative name to the potential buyers

e.) I don’t care.

 

[brindle123]

There is a solution, I wrote a blog here about why anyone using brandable marketplace should get paid for listing their domain on the site.

If someone gets to BB via your domain listed with them, but doesn't your domain and buys another BB listed domain, then you should get a commission for bringing a customer to BB.

If you own a really good domain and it drives traffic to BB, then you shouldn't have to pay a dime to list it or any other of your domains on their site.

To me BB just seems like the paid appraisal scam. Pay us to tell you whether or not your domain is any good. Then you can go on and brag to others that we've(BB) said your domain was good.

I don't use their site and never will unless it is completely free until they sell one of my domains.

If you pay to have your domain listed, then that should be the "Opt Out" of having to pay a commission if and when the domain sells.

If you can list it for free, but have to pay the commission when sold, that is fine.

Either way using those examples both BB and the domain owners win. Right now it's a win win just for BB and not domain owners.

BB gets paid for the listing, then the sale. SCAM

Changing the nameservers to BB just drives traffic to BB, and doesn't guarantee that your domain will sell.

Don't pay to have your domain listed anywhere, it's a scam, especially if you are in direct competition with the sites employees. SCAM.

 

[Dnbolt]

Algorithm for sold domains : check if they forward to brandbucket.com/example , if not, they *may* have sold (need to recheck at a later date)

You tried but many domainers who has their domain removed from site dind't not remove BB nameserver, I contacted a few before also small percent don't use bb nameserver.

 

[Asfas1000]

You tried but many domainers who has their domain removed from site dind't not remove BB nameserver

This is not a problem. We talking about domains that sold.

also small percent don't use bb nameserver.

That would be a problem, but AFAIK all listed domains should point to BB by their TOS.

 

[Recons.Com]

If any brandable domain name marketplace can stand up and offer to pay each user $10 – $100 EACH MONTH depending on the size of the individual user’s inventory, then that particular brandable domain market place has a better chance of expanding even more and see a nice growth. As every user(brandable domain sellers) will be happy because they will still be getting paid regardless if domain name sale or not the brandable domain marketplace in question will still benefit too.

This is meaningless proposition. 25000 x 10$ x 12 = 3M$, that is more than TURNOVER of BB, income before other expenses being around $0.6-0.7M.

The best they could do is to offer paying renewals, but that would also take away half of their income after payouts to domain owners.

 

[Grilled]

Are all those names of employees that have sold domains on BB?

No. Boxador is Margot, the founder of BB, and MK is of course the managing director. Most of the names on the list are in fact other domainers, some of which are active on NamePros. I don't currently have a list of the BA.

The other 49* domains sold represent sellers with 1 march sale and/or sellers who register have private registration? @Dnbolt - feel free to clarify

*new number coming soon after verifying which March sales actually materialized.* so far I've found 3

That would be a problem, but AFAIK all listed domains should point to BB by their TOS.

I heard sellers have the option to forward their domains to brandbucket.com/domain. If you do this, you don't get a personalized scorecard. The benefit to forwarding your domain is you can still run search analytics.

 

[GoKaizen]

[QUOTE="brindle123, post: 5451668, member: 30072"To me BB just seems like the paid appraisal scam. Pay us to tell you whether or not your domain is any good. Then you can go on and brag to others that we've(BB) said your domain was good.
[/QUOTE]

Kinda agree with @brindle123. BB should have a higher sell rate and lower commissions. What marketing does BB actually do for brandable names?

 

[Dnbolt]

This is meaningless proposition. 25000 x 10$ x 12 = 3M$, that is more than TURNOVER of BB, income before other expenses being around $0.6-0.7M.

The best they could do is to offer paying renewals, but that would also take away half of their income after payouts to domain owners.

In the blog, it was mentioned that: There are certain measures that must be taken

 

[Ben Bien]

apathy for the win

 

[Ted Levy]

[QUOTE="brindle123, post: 5451668, member: 30072"To me BB just seems like the paid appraisal scam. Pay us to tell you whether or not your domain is any good. Then you can go on and brag to others that we've(BB) said your domain was good.

Kinda agree with @brindle123. BB should have a higher sell rate and lower commissions. What marketing does BB actually do for brandable names?[/QUOTE]
Why don't you arrange a meeting with Michael and Margot and explain to them why it's in their interest to lower commissions, and how they should go about increasing their sell rate? I'm sure they're not doing anything to market their names, they would welcome your ideas I'm sure.

 

[GoKaizen]

Seriously doubt they care about my opinions Ted. Do you work and talk with BB directly?

 

[Dnbolt]

@brindle123 Here is a list of brandbucket domains sold by M.Krell the Managing Director of brandbucket. It supersedes the average Joe and any Brandbucket ambassador so it might be of interests to you.

 

[namekart]

Can you share list of BrandBucket names sold (with prices) in 2016?

 

[brindle123]

@brindle123 Here is a list of brandbucket domains sold by M.Krell the Managing Director of brandbucket. It supersedes the average Joe and any Brandbucket ambassador so it might be of interests to you.

Wow. He sells a domain every 1.6 days! There are people that have domains accepted that never have a sale.
He has to have his domains being pushed on customers or he has 1000's and 1000's of brandable domain names.

 

[brindle123]

Kinda agree with @brindle123. BB should have a higher sell rate and lower commissions. What marketing does BB actually do for brandable names?

Why don't you arrange a meeting with Michael and Margot and explain to them why it's in their interest to lower commissions, and how they should go about increasing their sell rate? I'm sure they're not doing anything to market their names, they would welcome your ideas I'm sure.[/QUOTE]

That would be like telling the IRS to stop taxing us. It ain't gonna happen.
Who is BB's customer? The person who pays for a listing or the person who buys a domain on the site? Both are. BB is not going to stop taking money from either.

I don't list on their site, because it's stupid to pay to compete with their employees and Director.

 

[Dnbolt]

Can you share list of BrandBucket names sold (with prices) in 2016?

It's on the homepage.

 

[Candace]

@Dnbolt and @Grilled, you guys should get together and start a brandable marketplace
FOR THE PEOPLE, BY THE PEOPLE

Do the same things brandbucket is doing (advertising on twitter, using different media options to advertise to startups etc)

lol

 

[Dnbolt]

@Dnbolt and @Grilled, you guys should get together and start a brandable marketplace
FOR THE PEOPLE, BY THE PEOPLE

Do the same things brandbucket is doing (advertising on twitter, using different media options to advertise to startups etc)

lol

That would be a nice challenge but currently I am focused on algorithms that will help me and others found great brandable domains for resell powered by brandbucket sold data and hopefully other markets. The data I suspect krell might be taking advantage off.

 

[Candace]

I hear ya @Dnbolt.

IMO, since a lot of people feel like they are getting the raw end of a bad deal with BB, maybe we should all think about focussing our efforts on figuring out how to create a brandable marketplace that is more powerful than BB.

Kinda on par to what GoDaddy did to Network Solutions right? More competition usually equates to better service and lower prices anyway.

I mean, you seem to be a very talented guy.

just saying.....but then again my head is always in the clouds. lol

 

[creataweb]

Hook it up to NP. namepros[dotcom]/brandables

 

[Dnbolt]

I hear ya @Dnbolt.

IMO, since a lot of people feel like they are getting the raw end of a bad deal with BB, maybe we should all think about focussing our efforts on figuring out how to create a brandable marketplace that is more powerful than BB.

Kinda on par to what GoDaddy did to Network Solutions right? More competition usually equates to better service and lower prices anyway.

I mean, you seem to be a very talented guy.

just saying.....but then again my head is always in the clouds. lol

Thanks, but to out beat brandbucket requires powerful strategic planning and great collaboration/team effort and must importantly big cash $$$$$ is required as you know in today’s world money speaks.

There are many great ways to find targeted prospects, marketing ways even domainsherpa covers some approach etc. Selling domains isn't a huge problem, there would always be demand if you have something desirable by end users.