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Hi everyone, hope u are doing well !

I want to talk about my first experience on selling a domain name for 5 figures (I am a beginner specialised on crypto domain name - I have a rich experience in the crypto world but not domaining, still learning everyday).

The domain name is: Binance.Exchange, it is sold for 12000$ and recieved net payment of 9950$ (deducing afternic fees)

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I spotted the domain name on NameSilo Marketplace (BTW I buy all of them there since they have cheap prices for hand regged and support all major extensions), I found it on the expired auctions list, I didn't thought that I had a chance to acquire it since many of the domain name I bid on on the marketplace were not successful, since the owner renew it at the last moment (Sometimes even in the last 5 minutes !).

But for this one, it was successful ... someone already made a bid on it (1$) and you will find all the interesting domains have that 1$ bid (perhaps a big company or experienced domainer), the first challange is to win that expired auction, especially that whois datas indicate the registered date = 2017 (I know well Binance and trade frequently on their plateform and was from the first users that registered to their service, I assisted to their launching, the registered date add a great argument to the negociations while selling it) ! luckily the MAX BUY price was 50$, so I paid that amount 2 days before the expiration (For me, waiting to the last minutes was not necessary as per my own experience ... and it will add unecessary risk that someone pay for it before I do), I remember that when I was ready to pay, I stopped for one moment in order to think if it was the right thing to do, and if it was not pereferable to invest on handregged domain name (This will add more chance of selling and more oppotunities), I choosen to continue on the same path.

After 2 days, I won the domain name and it got transferred to my account on NameSilo.

As soon as it was recieved, I made some searchs on how to contact the right person on Binance and to make a plan with solid arguments to convince them to buy it !

I contacted them from the support page, tried different names @binance.com throught email but no success.

My last and successful try was to make a post on their official reddit and suggest to people to make an offer for the domain name since it was great for trader to redirect traffic on it to their affiliate links !

After 1 day, the post was deleted and one of the moderators contacted me about the domain name and offered me 3000$ for it, I rejected the offer and sent a counter offer at 5 BTC (Around 46500$ at the writing time)!

I spent around 1 week dealing with them without any way out that feet the both party, they stuck to 3k$ or maximum an offer that is near to their offer, I stopped the conversation for around 1/2 months, insisted again and contacted them and purposed to lower the price to 2 BTC supposingly the max I can do ! but unfortunately it was overestimated and my attempt failed again.

Also posted it here on namepros:
https://www.namepros.com/threads/binance-exchange.1175263/

After that, many users from namepros, and other plateforms saying that I will never succeed to sell it and that I will have legal problems since the tradmark is already deposited etc. You can check my thread on namepros from here:
https://www.namepros.com/threads/re...onth-after-they-launch-their-service.1187818/

@Abdullah Abdullah suggested me to set the price at around: 3k$ (Apprtoximately the same amount they will spend if they decide to take legal actions ... so since this will take from their time, there is a chance they get it for the same price without too much troubles).

But since I rejected the first offer, I was convinced that this is an opportunity for me and have to follow on my idea until the end even knowing that all the doors are closed, and all I will lose is: 50$, and will win a solid experience even in the case I fail on this (Atleast, I learn something new). I also had a motto for this domain name: Hodling Binance.Exchange is Just like hodling BTC !

I decided to review my price and taking sometime to find the right one for it, so I checked namebio and listed all .exchange domain name that were sold in the past:

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open.exchange    13,890 USD    2020-01-11    NamePull.com
global.exchange    345 USD    2019-10-07    NamePull.com
smart.exchange    108 USD    2019-10-07    NamePull.com
go.exchange    30,000 USD    2018-05-14    Sedo
protrade.exchange    2,300 USD    2018-04-20    Sedo
monero.exchange    450 USD    2017-12-16    Sedo
btc.exchange    12,500 USD    2017-11-12    Pvt Sale
coins.exchange    5,000 USD    2017-10-08    GoDaddy
coin.exchange    5,000 USD    2017-08-13    Afternic

BTC.exchange is sold 12500$ which is a general nich, easy to remember, known keyword (Bitcoin, BTC) 100x better than mine etc. and me asking 50000$ for binance.exchange, I decided to lower it to 12000$ as final price and taken BTC.Exchange as reference.

Then notified them about this change and asked them to not go behind this deal and that it was my last email from me.

After 1 month, I recieved an offer at 9000$ ... and told to the Afternic agent that it was a reasonable offer and I am ready to accept it.

But no continuation from the buyer.

2 weeks after, someone paid the BIN price (12000$) and it was the right end user finally !

Last day the transaction was completed, and today Afternic paid me ... I salute their professionalism.

I don't know if it was Binance but two things are sure, the keys here: Persistence, Patience ! And choosing the right estimation of your domain name is important.

Hope you will get some benefits from this experience and wish you all a great sales for your domain names, thanks for taking time to read it !
 
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Wow! calm down bro, you just tagged all namepros staff , I bet that if FBI and WIPO have an account on np u will tagged them too :ROFL:

it's better to give an advice to your fellow domainer without the need to make him in trouble..

It's not about causing trouble for OP. It's about keeping this forum clean from obvious cybersquatting and the 'celebration' of sales that derive from it.

Namepros wants to be/is a professional forum. Sales like this should be called out for what they are. We don't want to leave the impression to less experienced domainers that this is a good business ethic and it's a fine example of a strategy that could have gone terribly wrong. It's about giving a F.

That aside. Congrats on the sale.
 
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Even people on the biggest bitcoin forum told you that it was cybersquatting when you tried to put it up for auction there. The reality is Binance did not feel the need to deploy resources towards a UDRP. You are extremely lucky to have come away with a sale from such antics. Most if not all experienced investors would have told you to stay well clear from registering a TM'd domain. It worked this time, but if you think you'll be able to replicate this strategy into more sales....you better get a good lawyer.


With that said, I hope you learn from this. Don't ignore what people are telling you because although you may see it as negative they are giving you the harsh reality of the business. You may have gained monetarily by doing what you did but imho it's made me question your business ethics.

Good luck!
 
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Even people on the biggest bitcoin forum told you that it was cybersquatting when you tried to put it up for auction there. The reality is Binance did not feel the need to deploy resources towards a UDRP. You are extremely lucky to have come away with a sale from such antics. Most if not all experienced investors would have told you to stay well clear from registering a TM'd domain. It worked this time, but if you think you'll be able to replicate this strategy into more sales....you better get a good lawyer.


With that said, I hope you learn from this. Don't ignore what people are telling you because although you may see it as negative they are giving you the harsh reality of the business. You may have gained monetarily by doing what you did but imho it's made me question your business ethics.

Good luck!
I don't see negativally what people said, I thank any one that gave an advice on this thread and their their view point.
 
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I don't see negativally what people said, I thank any one that gave an advice on this thread and their their view point.

Good, hopefully you take it to heart and learn from the experience.
 
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Congratulations on the sale @TheBuyerz, I am sure its one of your lucky days.
 
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Even people on the biggest bitcoin forum told you that it was cybersquatting when you tried to put it up for auction there. The reality is Binance did not feel the need to deploy resources towards a UDRP.

Binance have lost domain dispute on the past

https://decrypt.co/33121/binance-loses-domain-name-dispute-to-australian-florist
https://www.wipo.int/amc/en/domains/search/text.jsp?case=DAU2020-0009

one more thing, binance is not the buyer of the domain name binance.exchange,here is how you check if a domain name is belong to Binance, https://www.binance.com/en/official-verification put the domain here if you get the following message: 'Non-Official Channel' , then the domain doesn't belong to them.


the current buyer is the one in trouble now lol.
 
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Congratulations on the sale @TheBuyerz, I am sure its one of your lucky days.

Thank you sir !

Sure it is ! I appreciate your message again!

Binance have lost domain dispute on the past

https://decrypt.co/33121/binance-loses-domain-name-dispute-to-australian-florist
https://www.wipo.int/amc/en/domains/search/text.jsp?case=DAU2020-0009

one more thing, binance is not the buyer of the domain name binance.exchange,here is how you check if a domain name is belong to Binance, https://www.binance.com/en/official-verification put the domain here if you get the following message: 'Non-Official Channel' , then the domain doesn't belong to them.


the current buyer is the one in trouble now lol.

This is interesting sir ! It is a clever appraoche to know if it was them who purchased it !

Hope the domain name will be in a good use.

I don't have to justify each time but I think there is many lessons to extract from this thread especially that domaining is not only buy and wait game, but a job like others that involve efforts, strategies, marketing etc... to find an end user, there is domain names that attract the buyer but others that is require you to find it yourself.

Thanks all again !
 
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You had a 5% chance of it being sold, and 95% of being sued.

You got lucky that you sold it and now you think this is rinse and repeat.

You'll be wiped out of this market if you don't take the sound advice you are getting in this forum.
 
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You had a 5% chance of it being sold, and 95% of being sued.

You got lucky that you sold it and now you think this is rinse and repeat.

You'll be wiped out of this market if you don't take the sound advice you are getting in this forum.

I think it is a rinse and repeat ! Wow ! How do you know what I think or not?!

If you talk about the other domain names (.exchange) on my website, they all been registered on the same date ... so your comment don't have her place here. (Check whois for that).

And more importantly, do not have prejudices without doing your research next time.
 
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I think it is a rinse and repeat ! Wow ! How do you know what I think or not?!

If you talk about the other domain names (.exchange) on my website, they all been registered on the same date ... so your comment don't have her place here. (Check whois for that).

And more importantly, do not have prejudices without doing your research next time.

My comment is spot on because you actually took the time to post about a sale which is clearly cybersquatting, and gave it a positive spin. Any professional domainer in your position would, at a minimum, enjoy the sale and be quiet about it.

Whether you actually think it's rinse and repeat is irrelevant to the point I was trying to make. Good luck.
 
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My comment is spot on because you actually took the time to post about a sale which is clearly cybersquatting, and gave it a positive spin. Any professional domainer in your position would, at a minimum, enjoy the sale and be quiet about it.

Whether you actually think it's rinse and repeat is irrelevant to the point I was trying to make. Good luck.

I am not that kind of domainer, we call that hypocrisy ... so hidding that sale from others will make me a professional domainer ?! Would be happy to carry the title of "squatter" in that case.

BTW I think nothing, you you are thinking in my place ;)
 
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@NamePros @Mod Team Echo @Mod Team Alfa @Mod Team Bravo @Mod Team Foxtrot

If you want to be a truly professional domain name forum then threads like this need to be marked as domain name squatting and poor business practice that gives our industry a bad name.

I may even hedge on the side of deleting the entire thread.

Sorry but this sale should not be celebrated in the slightest.

Binance should have sued the seller.

I'd also like to see a scenario where Afternic and GoDaddy don't allow such clear TM violating domain names to be listed for sale.

I honestly agree.


This is not domaining. This is illegal cybersquatting. I tried to google for a dictionary word for Binance... it's not there. You basically sold someone their trademark.

I guess because of the ubiquity of "binance" trademarks, they decided not to challenge the UDRP... but still.

Anyway, I noticed that .exchange doesn't last. I used to trade on Stocks.Exchange... but in the end they decided to rebrand to StEx.com. So, imho, a 4L .com is more valuable than a .exchange.

I suppose the lost traffic or misclicks or something caused them to rebrand.
 
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I honestly agree.

This is not domaining. This is illegal cybersquatting. I tried to google for a dictionary word for Binance... it's not there. You basically sold someone their trademark.

I guess because of the ubiquity of "binance" trademarks, they decided not to challenge the UDRP... but still.

Anyway, I noticed that .exchange doesn't last. I used to trade on Stocks.Exchange... but in the end they decided to rebrand to StEx.com. So, imho, a 4L .com is more valuable than a .exchange.

I suppose the lost traffic or misclicks or something caused them to rebrand.

They rebranded to Stex.com to steal traffic of an old exchange (50x.com right now), it is somehow a cybersquatting...

I asked the moderators for removing this thread, but it is an impossible mission ... I agree with you on this point... if we can make a vote or something it will be awesome ! Lesson learned, do your business here without too much talking, some people makes an intervention only when not needed, there is many thread that calls for help and orientation, you will find no posts of them there ... but in this kind of thread magically they appear with their millions years of experience, a showcase of their knowledge on this field... too much speculations and speech without sense.

Posting your experience on some of your sold domain names, will help others too much, especially new comers.

Just FYI
 
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